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Charlie A 05-07-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 430605)
Charlie,, I wish I had something to report,, but alas,, there was only one '68 Hemi Cuda at Columbus last weekend, The "Missouri Mule",, which I didn't see it run and there were no Hemi Darts either. There were a lot of great cars in attendance, but nothing that would apply to these 2 threads,, sorry.
Danny Durham

New topic on the forum and you could be the first contributor!

You Should Have Been There.......

Geerhead55 05-08-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 430647)
New topic on the forum and you could be the first contributor!

You Should Have Been There.......

Take a look, Charlie.
Danny Durham

Paul Ceasrine 05-10-2014 03:57 PM

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1968 Dover Drag Strip, {Wingdale, New York}

Heads Up {John Macey}

Yes, we used to park right next to him when he was at Dover.

Very fast..........10.80's like clockwork in 1968.........

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...e.php?id=14320

Charlie A 05-10-2014 09:27 PM

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Just like Liteweight's LO23 Dart, this BO29 Barracuda gets driven on the street from time to time:

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com..._Side_View.jpg

mopar68 05-11-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 431024)
1968 Dover Drag Strip, {Wingdale, New York}

Heads Up {John Macey}

Yes, we used to park right next to him when he was at Dover.

Very fast..........10.80's like clockwork in 1968.........

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...e.php?id=14320

Cool photo, Paul; thanks for sharing. Here's another one...

http://110.imagebam.com/download/rbU...anair78672.jpg

Anyone know the whereabouts or history of this car before and after Alan owned it? Or does he still own it? Is he even still around?

M68

Fr8teamster 05-11-2014 11:18 PM

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Anyone know this one?

rmbelair 05-12-2014 12:59 AM

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I see there is a BO29 car registered at the Seattle Mecum auction coming on June 13th and 14th 2014 :)

mopar68 05-12-2014 04:56 AM

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http://110.imagebam.com/download/Nlm...jack_arnew.JPG

M68

Charlie A 05-12-2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fr8teamster (Post 431193)
Anyone know this one?

Cool pic:

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1399864696

Fr8teamster 05-12-2014 10:39 PM

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Yes it's the gentle Ben car that's up for auction.

George Fitzpatrick 05-13-2014 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 431173)
Cool photo, Paul; thanks for sharing. Here's another one...

http://110.imagebam.com/download/rbU...anair78672.jpg

Anyone know the whereabouts or history of this car before and after Alan owned it? Or does he still own it? Is he even still around?

M68


See post #137

Geerhead55 05-13-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fr8teamster (Post 431285)
Yes it's the gentle Ben car that's up for auction.

Also former De Frank & Cohen and former Harry Holton ride, among others.
Danny Durham

mopar68 05-16-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by George Fitzpatrick (Post 431294)
See post #137

Thanks. What year did you purchase it? Was it more or less in the condition as seen in the picture?

M68

mopar68 05-18-2014 01:20 AM

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http://110.imagebam.com/download/-6U..._%26_cohen.jpg

M68

mopar68 05-18-2014 05:22 AM

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http://111.imagebam.com/download/OjZ...pinet_bros.JPG

M68

Paul Ceasrine 05-18-2014 09:56 AM

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1970 New York National Speedway

'Snapper' Hemi Barracuda

http://www.dragracingimagery.com/photos/V10%2377.jpg

http://www.dragracingimagery.com/photos/V10%2316.jpg

mopar68 05-20-2014 01:15 AM

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Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

http://111.imagebam.com/download/iPE..._ss-a_cuda.jpg

M68 :D

mopar68 05-27-2014 11:24 PM

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Who's behind the wheel? It doesn't look like Ronnie Sox. I know Don Carlton drove one of
S & M's 1968-turned-1969 Barracudas in Pro Stock but it doesn't look like him behind the wheel either.

http://109.imagebam.com/download/I6V...in_beeline.jpg

M68

a990hemi 05-28-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 432949)
Who's behind the wheel? It doesn't look like Ronnie Sox. I know Don Carlton drove one of
S & M's 1968-turned-1969 Barracudas in Pro Stock but it doesn't look like him behind the wheel either.

http://109.imagebam.com/download/I6V...in_beeline.jpg

M68

Looks like a young Herb McCandles to me.

FINESPLINE 05-28-2014 05:18 PM

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Anybody see the video of Bucky Hess kissing the wall at the Division 1 meet at Maple Grove ? OUCH:eek:

mopar68 05-28-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 432974)
Looks like a young Herb McCandles to me.

Herb wore glasses and so did Carlton but I can't see any on the driver. Can you?

M68

mopar68 05-28-2014 06:26 PM

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Here's Ronnie...

http://111.imagebam.com/download/XZu..._barracuda.jpg

M68

vette1 05-29-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 422423)
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1393527731

The other pic is blurry but has 3853 as it's driver number.
No name on it that I could see.

Randy Morgan out of WV owned it at one time.

Paul Ceasrine 05-29-2014 01:34 PM

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Great Photo's M-68,

I'm pretty sure that Sox & Martin wanted to run this Barracuda in A/MP, but it weighed in 'too' light.

So, they swapped on a Hilborn Injector System {short tube} and ran it in B/G.

http://111.imagebam.com/download/XZu..._barracuda.jpg

a990hemi 05-29-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 433019)
Herb wore glasses and so did Carlton but I can't see any on the driver. Can you?

M68

The photo is too grainy to be certain, but I can see glasses on the driver and the facial features do look similar to Herb's. The world may never know for sure.

hemid68 05-29-2014 02:04 PM

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Why doesn't somebody just ask Herb or maybe Buddy?
Dan

George Fitzpatrick 05-29-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 431715)
Thanks. What year did you purchase it? Was it more or less in the condition as seen in the picture?

M68

When I bought the car it was in his garage with 4 flats no intake manifold and had not been run since the partnership broke up (couple of years). I always loved the car. When I called Alan I got lucky he still had it. I paid $10,000.00 in 1980 I think it was 80 not sure, but believe me that was a lot of money. I had to borrow the money from my in-laws. I wish I had taken a picture it was a true barn find. I had some of the best times with that car and should have never sold it.

jerry witzel 05-29-2014 09:50 PM

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jerry witzel 05-29-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vette1 (Post 433102)
Randy Morgan out of WV owned it at one time.

I believe Phil Roar owned it at one time also.

Chris DeGidio 05-30-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 433019)
Herb wore glasses and so did Carlton but I can't see any on the driver. Can you?

M68

It's Don Carlton.I have seen other pictures of this car with that 1262 number and Don's name on the door.

Ronnie Hamlin 06-01-2014 08:40 AM

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Herbs pro stock number was 211 if my old memory is working correctly today

Terry Drinkwater 06-01-2014 09:28 AM

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Not trying to knock anyone off subject here, but I would like to share my Hemi Cuda story with you. Back in about 1980 or so my brother and I purchased a Hemi Cuda from Billy "Big Deal" Jacobs in Enterprise, AL. It was maroon and was lettered "Chopper" in faded gold leaf at the time if I remember correctly. It was represented to us at the time as as ex-Sox & Martin car. It was possibly a factory Hemi car as it had the fiberglass front end, lightweight doors with pull-up lexan windows and the lightweight van seats. We didn't really care about that, we were just mopar bracket racers at the time, ('68 Roadrunner) and wanted to move up in the food chain! Back then the whole Hemi car thing was not the huge deal it is today. My bother owned a small business and I was a line mechanic at a GM dealer and the price was right, so we jumped at the chance to campaign a Hemi car in the IHRA combined eliminator classes, which were popular in the southeast at the time. The car was a leaf spring set up with auto trans and ran 6.50's in the eight mile and 9.90's in the quarter with nothing but routine maintenance and fresh tires and plugs.( a lot of plugs!) After a couple of years, money got tight and the car was sold to Frank Barnett who turned it into a 440 wedge Super Gas car. I have no idea what happened to it after that, just wondered if anyone has any info. It was painted white with a red Chrysler pentastar under our names on the doors when we raced it and I think Frank kept it white when he had it. We ran into Warren Barnett a few years ago and in the bench racing that followed, totally forgot to ask him about it. Wish I had known then what I know now and I would have bought my brother's half and put it in storage. Big regret in life right there. Sorry for the long first post, but I could have rambled on even longer!
Thanks,
Terry

Stewart Way 06-01-2014 02:51 PM

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Terry
I am likely riding with Frank to Mississippi this week to pick up a toter and trailer. I will try to remember to ask about the car.

Charlie A 06-01-2014 04:22 PM

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...sic_ss0010.jpg

Terry Drinkwater 06-01-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 433417)
Terry
I am likely riding with Frank to Mississippi this week to pick up a toter and trailer. I will try to remember to ask about the car.

OK, Stewart. Also ask him what they did with that fresh motor(never fired) that was in the car then. He did very well on that deal! LOL!

68hemiss 06-03-2014 12:07 AM

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I am not sure what the deal was aside from what I was told - if you see pics of this car and Gary Ostrich's Cuda from Indy - I think that this was 69 - Chrysler had them run in the gas classes - an auto & stick car with fuel injection - Chrysler was probably trying to sweep the sportsman classes at Indy - Ronnie also ran an S/S Barracuda at Indy that year.
Mark J


I'm pretty sure that Sox & Martin wanted to run this Barracuda in A/MP, but it weighed in 'too' light.

So, they swapped on a Hilborn Injector System {short tube} and ran it in B/G.

http://111.imagebam.com/download/XZu..._barracuda.jpg[/QUOTE]

68hemiss 06-03-2014 12:10 AM

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Terry,
I PM'd you about this - I know of a red Hemi Cuda that was supposedly sold to Billy - I am guessing that this was the car - if so, it was an original S/S car - I have the history back to the original owner. I would really like to hear more about this car and any pics if you have them.
Thanks,
Mark Janaky
1968 Hemi S/S Registry






QUOTE=Terry Drinkwater;433381]Not trying to knock anyone off subject here, but I would like to share my Hemi Cuda story with you. Back in about 1980 or so my brother and I purchased a Hemi Cuda from Billy "Big Deal" Jacobs in Enterprise, AL. It was maroon and was lettered "Chopper" in faded gold leaf at the time if I remember correctly. It was represented to us at the time as as ex-Sox & Martin car. It was possibly a factory Hemi car as it had the fiberglass front end, lightweight doors with pull-up lexan windows and the lightweight van seats. We didn't really care about that, we were just mopar bracket racers at the time, ('68 Roadrunner) and wanted to move up in the food chain! Back then the whole Hemi car thing was not the huge deal it is today. My bother owned a small business and I was a line mechanic at a GM dealer and the price was right, so we jumped at the chance to campaign a Hemi car in the IHRA combined eliminator classes, which were popular in the southeast at the time. The car was a leaf spring set up with auto trans and ran 6.50's in the eight mile and 9.90's in the quarter with nothing but routine maintenance and fresh tires and plugs.( a lot of plugs!) After a couple of years, money got tight and the car was sold to Frank Barnett who turned it into a 440 wedge Super Gas car. I have no idea what happened to it after that, just wondered if anyone has any info. It was painted white with a red Chrysler pentastar under our names on the doors when we raced it and I think Frank kept it white when he had it. We ran into Warren Barnett a few years ago and in the bench racing that followed, totally forgot to ask him about it. Wish I had known then what I know now and I would have bought my brother's half and put it in storage. Big regret in life right there. Sorry for the long first post, but I could have rambled on even longer!
Thanks,
Terry[/QUOTE]

Terry Drinkwater 06-03-2014 07:10 AM

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Mark, your mailbox is full! But, no I don't have any pics of the original paint job when we got it. As best I remember, you could call it red, a very deep red (sorta faded) with Cragar Super Trick wheels. I do have some as we raced it, but will have to get them scanned before I can upload.
Thanks,
Terry

mike koester 66 nova 06-03-2014 07:08 PM

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the pictures of the sox and martin cuda running b gas at indy in 1969 and then don carlton driving the same car in pro stock at the winters in 1970, the first year for the new class. i do believe this was the little thumper cuda that s/m bought from carlton. also one reason s/m ran b/ gas at indy with injectors instead of carbs is for an advantage as jenkins and schartman were also in b/gas along with jim zakia who won the class.they were running
to showcase pro stock for the next year for nhra and fans. this was the same year as mini class runs to determine the class winners in s/s. as a young 18
year old i was at indy and saw this first hand.

mike koester 66 nova

Terry Drinkwater 06-03-2014 07:15 PM

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What ever happened to the Steve Bagwell Hemi Cuda? I know it went out to California to Jimmy DeFrank and Cohen. Where now? It was sitting in the shop at Barnett's when I went to get the motor freshened. The difference between his stuff and our low buck operation was depressing! I got to look over all three of his cars and realized there was no way we could ever compete with cars like that. That probably led to the decision to sell ours and I went back to driving for some of the local bracket racers and outlaw pro stockers.


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