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Gotta love the guy in the stands! Ho humm, Next!

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I bet that's the hardest that car has ever launched. :)

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Didn't expect that! I was waiting for the Mustang to leave in reverse.

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Exactly why I never start my burn out till the car in front has left and the starting line crew are out of the way. Things fail and I do not want killing someone hanging over my head the rest of my life.

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Yup ! Looks like he shoulda had a tether !

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Blame belongs with the track crew for that one.

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I heard the funny car guys loaded up and went home after that. Mustang guy was outta luck on that one too.

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I was waiting for the Mustang to take off in reverse too. I had that happen to me once. I was sitting in the burnout box and the car ahead of me took off in reverse and took out the whole passenger side of my car. I never got anything out of him even though at the time he said he would pay for it.

Bob

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I always wondered how it worked when two cars tangle up on the track. Is it an unwritten thing that if it happens on the track, that's just racing or has anyone ever heard of two cars trading paint during a race and someone paying? I understand when negligence happens in the pits someone is gonna pay but don't think I have seen anyone pay when it was an on track accident.

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Ask Lori Johns, she pretty much killed Jim Van Cleve's racing career.

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Two meetings scheduled that Mustang owner never wanted and he didn't show up for either one..

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I don't remember that one. What happened, Jim?

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She sued Van Cleve in court over an on-track accident. I think the judge basically told her to "pack sand".

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That is correct and Jim lost all interest in drag racing afterwards since he fought this on his own with no support from NHRA. They were just watching the developments from the sidelines.

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Thanks for the update;)....

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Didn't she run a fuel car, and he an SS car?

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they both ran comp at the time. Her lawsuit claimed that he was so pissed he was going to get beat by a girl, that he intentionally crashed both cars

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They were both running in comp @ the time. Jim's Mustang was part of Bernstein's superteam.

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I remember Shirley Muldowney commenting on Lori Johns saying something like drag racing not needing her bimbo ism.
Was that her only lawsuit or was there a top fuel deal too.
Mike Taylor 3601

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Question for the masses: If you locked up the binders at the finish line, and it caused you to crash your car and the guy next to you, would you help the other guy out with paying for the damages?

I would be sour that I did it to my own car, but completely sickened that I hurt someone's else ride in the process.

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I can barely afford to run my own car without hitting anybody but if I did and it was my fault I would not race again until his car was fixed and back on the track and if he lived close enough to me I would go by his house and help him work on it. Really hoping that never happens. Knocking on wood. I think when that happens more often than not somebody should have aborted the run before the cars got together. Countless wreck videos on you tube where guys are in the gas way way longer than they should be.

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If i caused a crash that damaged someone elses car, I would not feel right if I did'nt take care of it. I just hope if ever in that spot that they are reasonable people and will be easy to work with.
Mike Taylor 3601

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Some guys have that "never lift" mentality. Alot of that going on over in the NMCA, NMRA, etc.

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^^ I had to laugh a little when I read that.

I'm sure we have all seen this guy:

He is a heads up racer.
He is making a test-n-tune run.
He takes off, then gets squirmy, then gets back in and out of the throttle all the while sliding all over the track, while keeping his foot into it to the finish line.

What kind of data does that provide ?

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None whatsoever, but be advised these guys will do anything to win on race day. I was in NMCA at Bowling Green in '98 when an Outlaw racer went airborne in the left lane, passed over the top of a '69 Camaro in the right lane upside down, hit the timing board for the right lane and then the retaining wall. Death was instantaneous as it decapitated him upon impact on top of the wall. I was standing on the edge of the track even where he went airborne at nearly 200mph and was a sight I have never forgotten.

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I refer y'all to this video on you tube. 55 Chevy lucky to be alive is the title. Don't know how to put the link up. The ****er shifted w his foot to the floor and half his car was in the other lane. The car was destroyed and if you look close the sumbitch is thrown smooth out of that piece of ****. Should have lifted a good 5 seconds before the car even got near the centerline.

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgaZzastKM0"]55 Chevy - Lucky To Be Alive - YouTube[/ame]

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The man raced a Pro Street 70-71 Camaro correct? If so I did not here what you described. All I heard was he hit the wall head on and rolled...Sad

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When the local "10.5 shoot out" heads up cars get out of shape, even a time trial/qualifying pass and gets all crossed up (they never lift, just sometimes wreck) the announcer and guys watching go on & on about the great driving job of saving it. Real bright.

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Alan,
If running 1/8 they data for 3/16mile if running 1/4 they get data for 3/8 mi.

The guy @ Bowling Green was in 70-72 body style Camaro, his name was Craig Mc Callum, he was from NC?, my friend was just feet from car when stopped,he will never forget what he saw ,it was bad deal. He said car hit drivers side fender first while airborne where wall ended and guardrail started then sent through scoreboard post which are probaly 8-10 '' I beams standing vertical. When stopped all left of was one bar of main hoop on driver side,lenco went through fence and windshield of a parked S-10.

Bowling Green now has concrete walls all the way down track now.
Mike Taylor 3601

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Anyone that "stays in it" After getting out of shape (Unless it's the final round of a National event) Is a MORON. Import racers are real good at doing that.
Nothing can be learned from that point on.
Tracks should punish offenders that do this

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Yeah, that was the one. It looked like a mushroom cloud went straight up in the air for a hundred feet when he hit. The most memorable moment was watching him sail upside down over the top of the Camaro he was racing against...cleared him by about three feet vertically. They tried to finish the event afterwards running it in a 1/8 mile format, but no one's heart was in it. Most of the racers left while a few just idled down the track for points sake.

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If you watch that whole video you'll notice that it never should have passed tech. His seat gets launched out of the car during the wreck after he is dumped out of it.

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That place didnt even have guardrails. He probably didn't even have seat belts. the part about that video that irks me the most is that that episode probably either shut racing down for the day or probably severely slowed the program down. He destroyed his s*** and cause a lot of inconvenience and work for others because he couldn't lift a good five seconds before the car started rolling. That car was not gonna run its number before he hit second gear. the other guy that I hate is the one that blows his motor befote the three hundred and thirty foot mark and stays in the center of the track all the way down .

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the THING never hooks,wtf was that,street tires ,they could not have had tech their ,the THING grenades ,,,,,

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There was a thread about that on Yellowbullet a while back. She posted that the lawsuit was filed by her Dad because he claimed it was intentional as you said. She claimed they withdrew the suit, but I recall the judge throwing it out too. IIRC, Van Cleve lost an oil line off the motor and got loose in his own oil.

I have a buddy who got hit in the side at the Bracket Finals a few years ago not once but twice by the same guy on the same pass. Guy got loose and stayed in it, crossed the c/l and hit Kim, got back in it, and hit him again. Kim went to find him in the pits afterward and the guy would not even talk to him.

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Looking at the video really makes you wonder if it was intentional. The clocks or score boards were never reset and the ET and dial in are still up from the previous run.

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This thread just goes on and on.

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And has been off topic for over half the posts. :)

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That's because they got all tangled up.