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Daryl,


Now that we know what we know about your LO23,have you ever figured out WHERE your Dart was all those missing years?


Charlie A

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Charlie

Short answer.......................... NOPE

MIA from 1969 to early 80's. Dead ends everywhere I go to this day. At least I got day 1 fiqured out.
Jimi V. is currently working on another lead.

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This one definitely has it's possibilities. Thanx again Mike. EDIT 10/19/15: I didn't give credit to the right guy here. MY BAD!!! It was Terry Witzell who posted that pic of the Dart, who has spent a lot of time digging info up for my cause. My apologies Terry. AND THANKYOU for your time your putting into this.

I am going to try & see if I can get a glimpse of the dent on the lower quarter in front of the bumper. Don't know if I can get a mirror down there


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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...pswqkf5ajn.jpg

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I like my numbers.

Because,

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Here's a pic of my car back in the early 80's stripped of previous paint etc. Of particular interest are the front tires. Formula 1 Super Stocks. Compare with the silver dart below. As far as I remember these were more of a street tire than a race tire. Coincidence?. Jimi Vignona pointed this out to me. Looks like there is the remnants of a dent in front of the rear bumper on the lower quarter also

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...manMay1985.jpg


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...pswqkf5ajn.jpg[/QUOTE]

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Glad to see the pic from yellow bullet brought over. I could not find it again w my phone after seeing it. I'm from the New York area and have asked around and will continue.

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The following is copied & pasted from a PM that Terry Witzell sent me. Thankyou for the time you've put towards this. Like you Terry, I really think it's the same car.

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"Hi, I was the one who originally posted that photo of the Dart from National Speedway. I really believe that is your Dart. I have been doing some digging trying to id that Dart in the photo. I found that photo in a thread about Long Island Dragway on yellowbullet.com. I reposted the photo and asked if anyone knew who's car it was. The guy who took that picture in the 70's replied and said he was twelve at the time and that was his first time at National Speedway and he was just taking pictures of cars he liked. He said he was really taking a picture of the Camaro but got the Dart in the background. He has no idea who owned the dart or who drove it. Then another guy replied and asked why I didn't just contact LAB Machine because that's what was lettered on the front fender. I never saw any lettering on the car, but if you look closely, there may be some lettering. I'm not sure how the guy saw it, but I thought it was worth a shot. I googled LAB Machine in ny and came up with a machine shop in Lindenhurst, New York. I called it and spoke to a gentlemen but didn't get his name. I asked if he had been around there since the 70's and he said yes. I asked if they had sponsored a Dart back in the seventies. At first he said he couldn't remember because it was so long ago and they had sponsored several cars over the years. He said they may have an old catalog around there he wasn't sure. Then he said yes they had sponsored a Hurst Hemi Dart ( all I said was Dart, never mentioned Hemi so I thought it must be true). He said the guy got the car through the local Lindenhurst Dodge dealer but it was long since closed. He said the guy would bring the Dart in every time the car would start to slow down and they would replace the timing chain for him. I asked if he remembered the guy's name, he said no. Then he said wait, it was Bob Lambadino or Lombardino, he couldn't remember for sure, but said he passed away about ten years ago. I started to ask more questions but he said he had a machine running and had to go. I had remembered several years ago in your Dart thread on classracer that someone had mentioned a guy who had bracket raced a Dart, had googled the name and came up with an obituary of a guy that mentioned he had drag raced. So I spent a couple of nights going through the whole Dart thread again, I didn't find the name but took some notes. Paul Ceasarine mentioned that the Manhatten Speed Dart was also called the R & R Plumbing dart in one post. Also a Al Mossarino or Al Mocerino was mentioned, similar name to Bob Lambardino, maybe the LAB Machine guy got it wrong. Also Paul Ceasrine mentioned a Pete Marzec owned the car. I was on the National Speedway Facebook page and a Frank Marzak posted on there. Could it possibly be Pete Marzak and Frank Marzak is related to him, possibly his son. I don't have a Facebook account or I would respond to him. The Dart in the picture I found looks to be silver with a dark insert. It was mentioned that the guy who painted your dart said it had been silver with possibly a dark burgundy insert. Also in the pics of your Dart when it was being restored had unpolished Super Tricks and Formula 1 Super Stock front tires, the Dart in the picture from National had unpolished Super Tricks and Formula 1 Super Stock tires. Also your car had a grump lump hood scoop mounted on top of the original hood scoop which would indicate a tunnel ram being on the car. The Dart from National has a tunnel ram. Sorry for the long post but since you reposted that picture of the Dart from National I felt I should share this info, I was hoping to find out for sure if this info was correct, but haven't been able to yet. Just giving you some more leads to look into. Terry"



I accidently stumbled on Frank Marzak a couple months ago on a group called Connecting Highway on facebook thinking the same thing as Terry, & no, he is unaware of a Pete Marzac.
Daryl

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Anyone else notice there is a super-imposed picture of the passenger rear quarter panel and wheel in the picture of the Dart outside the body shop? Please tell me you see it and I am not having a late 60's flashback. :)

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Yes I see it.

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If you run Pete Marzec's name at www.fultonhistory.com there are two articles that come up. Yonkers Ny The Herald statesman and Tarrytown ny daily news 1978. He was a local apprentice instructor either plumbing or electrician. Most likely same guy. Check the white pages for ny to see if he is currently around.
BTW www.fultonhistory.com is a free website that covers all of new york online newspapers with over 28m pages. You can find just about anything.
A lot of local racing was covered.

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910,000 + views on this topic.


Thank you Daryl and all that have been here.


And it started like this:


Hi my name is Daryl;I am new to this forum,& I'm REALLY hoping someone can help me out with some history of my 1968 original Hemi Dart. I lose it's past from the early 80's back to 1968.I am enclosing some pictures of it when it was purchased from Lou Vignona back in 1985??.There is one picture that shows a decal from the 1977 Bracket Nationals.Maybe someone will regognize it.
This is what I know of the car so far.Lou Vignona said he purchased it from some guy in Mt.Kisco(Cisco??) N.Y in the early 80's.It was in an underground parking lot of some apartment complex.The guy told Lou that it was Charlie Castaldo's Auto. car. I have since found out that it is not Castaldo's car thru talking to one of Charlie's crew members at the time by the name of Charlie Licata.When Lou purhased the car,he had it painted white.This is how Tim Henessey purchased it in 1985.
I have heard some storys about an original Hemi Dart in the N.Y. area that was known as the "two scoop Lido" car.I understand that this Lido guy installed some aftermarket scoop on top of the original scoop.Thus the name.I have spoke with Tim Henessey about this & he did say the original scoop was really messed up so he had to replace it when he restored the car.
If anyone can help me out on this,I sure would appreciate it as I have been searching for info. now for over 3 years,maybe 4.Any little detail may help no matter how small it may be.
Thankyou; Daryl
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1221673047 http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1221673047 http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1221673047

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1221673420

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What a cool story, I have been following since the beginning.
Pretty sure the evidence supports the case.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

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Shooting for a MILLION hits!
Should not take too much longer.
This has turned into a history lesson. :)

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seen one of these roll bars for sale on moparts like they used back then,i seen one in a pic in a dart on here

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That's cool John!!!. Jimi Vignogna removed the one out of my car & put it into his 62 Behemoth wagon.


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Daryl,
You have one of these?
Be cool to see it in your Dart !


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1445629007

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No I don't Charlie. I put a 6 point chrome moly bar in it for it to be legal to 10.00's


Liteweight

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Anyone else notice there is a super-imposed picture of the passenger rear quarter panel and wheel in the picture of the Dart outside the body shop? Please tell me you see it and I am not having a late 60's flashback. :)[/QUOTE] Can anyone tell or see if that is the same 1977 event sticker on the quarter glass window ? This would link the car ,and would also tell if the pic was taken 1977 or later .

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[/QUOTE] Can anyone tell or see if that is the same 1977 event sticker on the quarter glass window ? This would link the car ,and would also tell if the pic was taken 1977 or later .[/QUOTE]


LOL; had same exact thought. Tried to expand the two tone Dart photo but it looses clarity.


Also looks like the front pillar and most of roof line still have the light blue/grey paint on them. Looks like the black paint was stripped, but roof and pillars still had some hint of paint. Hard to tell...yet we all want so bad to know!!

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anyone interested in that roll bar can contact scott at 708-288-2879,i got that number off of moparts

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I have tried to expand those pics too, with same outcome. Nothing definate.

Liteweight

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I don't believe this was an LO23 with those wheel wells, but a neat looking Dart.

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...2&d=1445984522

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Anyone know anything about the Hemi Dart for sale on Racing Junk?


http://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Supe...Dart-LO23.html

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James Keyes--- Durand Michigan--- Keyes & Lewis Racing

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Jim Keyes and Reg Lewis were at the 2015 US Nationals with this "BO29 code" Barracuda. Although I have not seen the "LO23 code" Dart I would have no reason to doubt that it is a real Hemi Dart.

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1446072928http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1446074971


Same driver competition number on each car.

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Jim Keyes LO23

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...9&d=1446144726


Great Picture!

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originally Dick Smiths car. White with red stripes. A stick car too.

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This article is from the 1969 SS nationals held at york Pa. It states Dick Arons running the NY Dart SS/BA. The next day he ran another car in SS/GA class.

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Click the top bar to make it bigger! Then an old school magnifying glass worked for me. lol



http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1446295953

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fender tag says auto trans on Keyes car

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ww63...PM me please sir.

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Interesting.
Info I got on that car says it came with a stick. Could very well be an auto tho. There's another one like that. The Landy stick Dart was also tagged as an auto if you remember. That one is a little different scenario tho..

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Has this been here before?


https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.Mac...=0&w=300&h=300

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Dick Smith Dart:


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1398143012

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lightweight sent u a PM more contact numbers----FED 387

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psp0itzkw3.jpg


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