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Liteweight 11-03-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 486805)


Dick Oldfield's if I member correctly.

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Liteweight 11-03-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 486591)
Click the top bar to make it bigger! Then an old school magnifying glass worked for me. lol



http://classracer.com/classforum/att...1&d=1446295953

why does the name Dick Arons come up in my memory bank, but doesn't download from it?

liteweight

Frito 11-03-2015 06:35 PM

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This

Liteweight 11-03-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frito (Post 486912)
This

That?

davescuda 11-03-2015 08:25 PM

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Jack Lee Toms Hemi Dart. The day he bought it new from Grand Spaulding Dodge and 3 at the track
http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/s...psdwqkxlig.jpg

Charlie A 11-03-2015 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 486900)
why does the name Dick Arons come up in my memory bank, but doesn't download from it?

liteweight


Wally Booth/ Dick Arons Great Team. Chevy and later AMC Pro/Stock



http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...1bd40a986f.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...cd2wo1_500.jpg


http://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpre...eg?w=600&h=370http://www.mcacn.com/images/WallyBoothHornet2.jpg

Frito 11-03-2015 10:34 PM

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Trying to respond to the pic of the yellow Doc's Dart but it wouldn't let me post with the pic but here is a tidbit. The cars second owner was Jack Leonard of Wayne, West Virginia. It was bought as a roller and the paint was changed from green/blue to Yellow by Gary Harby and had Mosley NAPA on the door and was later painted red. A Hemi and trans was "borrowed" from Dave Mosley and the car ran locally for a short while before being sold to Roscoe. The pic was taken at Bluegrass Dragway, Lexington Ky and was most likely taken by Bob Rogers or Dave McGee. Roscoe and Terry took the NAPA off the door and in this shot it is running one four barrel with a dominator, bathtub intake and a snorkel scoop IHRA F2/AA Dave Mosley was Frito's next door neighbor

Charlie A 11-03-2015 10:35 PM

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One last one...... for my friends from the beautiful northern country!


http://www.tnjpostercreations.com/wp...ckrace1968.jpg

Liteweight 11-04-2015 03:48 PM

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psy651hiwf.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1wv2torp.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...pstczktkk1.jpg

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Liteweight 11-04-2015 03:50 PM

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Dick Oldfield

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0djrhrf6.jpg

Liteweight 11-04-2015 04:01 PM

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...pssvuib1qj.jpg

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georgep3689 11-04-2015 07:58 PM

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Next page of article. Quick mention of Arons.

georgep3689 11-04-2015 08:01 PM

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next page. Arons again.

Charlie A 11-04-2015 08:07 PM

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http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1446681478
http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1446681663

tommy d 11-04-2015 08:40 PM

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Someone posted this on Facebook with no info. I'm sure this crew has already seen it.

Charlie A 11-04-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 486999)
Someone posted this on Facebook with no info. I'm sure this crew has already seen it.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...5&d=1446683966http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1446683966

Liteweight 11-05-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 486999)
Someone posted this on Facebook with no info. I'm sure this crew has already seen it.


Have not seen it Tommy. Thankyou.

liteweight

Liteweight 11-05-2015 03:17 PM

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Put it back up on a group on facebook & it has been ID'd as The Kessler Bros. LO23. What a shame

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psui8bposm.jpg

wv_bob 11-05-2015 05:21 PM

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That's the car with the crazy red and black interior. I'm hoping the before photos are the ones in the barn.

Liteweight 11-06-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wv_bob (Post 487060)
That's the car with the crazy red and black interior. I'm hoping the before photos are the ones in the barn.

Nope, from a post these were taken a couple years ago. The other photo I took was in 07 I believe.
It's for sale. $160K

wv_bob 11-06-2015 05:38 PM

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Surprising they would let the car deteriorate like that. Good luck replacing that interior if they let it dry out and crack.

HEMIDARTDAVE 11-20-2015 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flintstonecharger (Post 480958)
Hey Dave,how about some pics. of your car?

Sorry for the delay Steve, here are a few:

Charlie A 11-20-2015 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 488442)
Sorry for the delay Steve, here are a few:

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1447991998http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1447991998http://classracer.com/classforum/att...9&d=1447991998

Crew Chief 11-24-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HEMIDARTDAVE (Post 488442)
Sorry for the delay Steve, here are a few:

Would the location of the fuel regulator and fuel line pass tech?

Charlie A 11-24-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Crew Chief (Post 488673)
Would the location of the fuel regulator and fuel line pass tech?

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1447991998

Gary Jarrell 11-25-2015 02:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frito (Post 486935)
Trying to respond to the pic of the yellow Doc's Dart but it wouldn't let me post with the pic but here is a tidbit. The cars second owner was Jack Leonard of Wayne, West Virginia. It was bought as a roller and the paint was changed from green/blue to Yellow by Gary Harby and had Mosley NAPA on the door and was later painted red. A Hemi and trans was "borrowed" from Dave Mosley and the car ran locally for a short while before being sold to Roscoe. The pic was taken at Bluegrass Dragway, Lexington Ky and was most likely taken by Bob Rogers or Dave McGee. Roscoe and Terry took the NAPA off the door and in this shot it is running one four barrel with a dominator, bathtub intake and a snorkel scoop IHRA F2/AA Dave Mosley was Frito's next door neighbor

Hello: I'm Gary Jarrell and I'm new to this site. I decided to join after I saw the pic of the yellow Doc's Dart which is my car. This LO23 was bought new by Larry Wilber on 6-25-68 from Gingrich Bros. Inc. of Perrysburg, Ohio. It was one of the last Darts made. Larry raced it under the name of "Chantilly Lace" in the Ohio area. After only a year or so Larry sold it to Wayne Schultz who raced it quite a bit under the name of "S&S Dyno Tuning." Schultz then sold it to Jack Leonard of Wayne, WV. By this tme it had been converted from its original auto trans to a stick shift. Apparently Leonard received it without motor/trans hence the partnership with Mosley. The Leonard/Mosley partnership didn't last and Leonard parked the car outside at his home without motor/trans and with a junk 10 bolt Chevy rear end wired to the leaf springs so he could roll it around. My Dad, Boyd "Doc" Jarrell and I bought it from Leonard in 1975. In 1976 we had a full roll cage, tubs, and other work done by Herb McCandless. We did remove the "Mosley" lettering and renamed the car "Doc's Dart" which it remains to this day although we painted it red, trimmed in silver and black in the mid 1980's. It was still yellow with the fish scales until then. Roscoe Jarrell was our driver in the beginning but later my brother, Terry, took over the driving. Both Terry and "Doc" have now passed away leaving me as current caretaker of the car. It was last raced in 1991 in Bristol with Terry driving. It remains basically as it was in the mid 80's and has never been restored. It still has all its original floors, sheet metal, fiberglass, and all original windows except the right rear quarter glass which shattered at 135 mph at Rockingham. I had it in two car shows this summer and my son and I took it to the Hemi Reunion in Salem, Ohio in 2008. I'll post some current pics later...Gary

340duster 11-25-2015 09:58 AM

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What markings if any are found on the original light weight glass?
Thanks

Charlie A 11-25-2015 07:56 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Jarrell (Post 488708)
Hello: I'm Gary Jarrell and I'm new to this site. I decided to join after I saw the pic of the yellow Doc's Dart which is my car. This LO23 was bought new by Larry Wilber on 6-25-68 from Gingrich Bros. Inc. of Perrysburg, Ohio. It was one of the last Darts made. Larry raced it under the name of "Chantilly Lace" in the Ohio area. After only a year or so Larry sold it to Wayne Schultz who raced it quite a bit under the name of "S&S Dyno Tuning." Schultz then sold it to Jack Leonard of Wayne, WV. By this tme it had been converted from its original auto trans to a stick shift. Apparently Leonard received it without motor/trans hence the partnership with Mosley. The Leonard/Mosley partnership didn't last and Leonard parked the car outside at his home without motor/trans and with a junk 10 bolt Chevy rear end wired to the leaf springs so he could roll it around. My Dad, Boyd "Doc" Jarrell and I bought it from Leonard in 1975. In 1976 we had a full roll cage, tubs, and other work done by Herb McCandless. We did remove the "Mosley" lettering and renamed the car "Doc's Dart" which it remains to this day although we painted it red, trimmed in silver and black in the mid 1980's. It was still yellow with the fish scales until then. Roscoe Jarrell was our driver in the beginning but later my brother, Terry, took over the driving. Both Terry and "Doc" have now passed away leaving me as current caretaker of the car. It was last raced in 1991 in Bristol with Terry driving. It remains basically as it was in the mid 80's and has never been restored. It still has all its original floors, sheet metal, fiberglass, and all original windows except the right rear quarter glass which shattered at 135 mph at Rockingham. I had it in two car shows this summer and my son and I took it to the Hemi Reunion in Salem, Ohio in 2008. I'll post some current pics later...Gary

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...psp0itzkw3.jpg


Thought I would tie all this together.

Gary Jarrell 11-26-2015 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 340duster (Post 488712)
What markings if any are found on the original light weight glass?
Thanks

There are markings on the glass. I took a picture of it this evening but when I try to upload the pic to this reply I get a message that the file is too big and must be resized. I have not yet figured out how to do that...Gary

Liteweight 11-27-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Jarrell (Post 488764)
There are markings on the glass. I took a picture of it this evening but when I try to upload the pic to this reply I get a message that the file is too big and must be resized. I have not yet figured out how to do that...Gary

Thanx for sharing that Gary.. I've seen your car a couple times. Great car you have.

To post pics here, it's not hard to do. Don't use attach files. That's why your getting the message you are..

Instead open a free account on a picture hosting website such as photo bucket. That account will ask you to attach pictures to that account. decide where you want your pictures to come from, either your phone or camera. Then copy the picture from that site & paste it here in your message box.


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davescuda 11-28-2015 10:36 PM

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Bill Flynn had 2 68 LO23 Hemi Darts
I have a lot of pictures and info on the two cars, that my buddy Tony got from Bill Flynn's brother. When I get them loaded up I will post a few.

Bill Flynn's 64 car local paper, Bill receiving his national champion trophy and a picture of the trophy
http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/s...psofye2osx.png

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps5meyn1eg.png

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps2krkkkpy.jpg

jerry witzel 11-29-2015 06:51 PM

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Max Hurley's Dart, photo from Facebook. Notice the quarter panel. Is this the same one that was crashed on the street?

Charlie A 11-29-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry witzel (Post 488963)
Max Hurley's Dart, photo from Facebook. Notice the quarter panel. Is this the same one that was crashed on the street?


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...4&d=1448837382

davescuda 11-29-2015 08:01 PM

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BO29 and LO23 Hemi Blocks

Does anybody know or have an original block From 68 BO29 Hemi Barracuda or a LO23 Hemi Dart.
My question is, What is stamped on them. Was the first 50 different from the rest?
Trying to find some info on these blocks. I am going to look at one. I want to make sure what I am looking at.

thanks for any help

340 Six Pack 12-02-2015 04:44 PM

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Hi, new member here. I've been following this thread for at least a few years, and am amazed at the wealth of information about these cars that’s available here.

I've always been interested in the LO23 & BO29 cars, and have seen a number of the cars in this and the Hemi Cuda thread race at various events since 1970. Al Adamic's “Al’s Toy” and Billy Lyon’s “Queen Bee” BO29 'Cudas were both regulars at tracks I raced at in northeast Ohio. Curiosity has me looking for photos and history of a particular Dart that I crossed paths with over four decades ago.

As a teenager I would frequent a local speed shop that ran an AA/FD, and one day in 1970 I was there when a Hemi Dart was trailered in. This Dart belonged to Kenny Bracken of Mentor, Ohio; and the car was named "Bracken’s World" - most likely a play on the television show by the same name. It was painted yellow with red on the side panels, very similar to the Mancini cars.

I didn't know the difference between a LO23 car and other Darts at the time, but over the years it has become apparent to me that what I remember about the scoop, stance, Hemi, Dana 60, and fact that it was running in Pro Stock lead me to believe it was an LO23.

To support this – although not real proof – research on Draglist shows it as a ’68 Dodge Dart by Factory, running a 426 Hemi and 4-speed. The car was even mentioned in Kenny’s obituary where it stated: "Mr. Bracken had a lifelong love of cars … He owned a 1968 Dodge Dart Hemi, which he purchased for $5,000." I can’t imagine a Dodge Dart being mentioned in an obit unless it was a very special one!

Being that many photos are no longer available in the older posts, has anyone seen or know the history of this car? Or if it really was an LO23? I searched this thread and the name Bracken came up in one post by dc426 where he mentions having bought the THT Dart from a fellow named Roy Bracken in 1989. Coincidence, or is there a connection there?

Liteweight 12-02-2015 05:09 PM

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Welcome here 340sixpack.

I do not recall the Dart you speak of but if anyone would know it will be Mark Janaky or Dell jones. they are the best historians on these cars.

liteweight

Charlie A 12-02-2015 05:24 PM

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This might help: It was the old Yankee Peddler according to the following.



http://public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/ev...union0133.html


http://public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/ev...wcomments.html


Dave might have some background assistance on things "Bill Flynn". :)

340 Six Pack 12-02-2015 05:50 PM

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You guys amaze me.... 40 years of wondering resolved in half an hour :)

I kind of figured Kenny was one of the "in between" owners not as well documented as original or current owners. So my memory is a bit fuzzy on the colors. At least I got the red part right! I do remember it having the Cragar S/S wheels. Perhaps I got the yellow/ red combo from the speed shop's decals - Lake Speed Equipment - owned by Harold "Slim" Carter who partnered with Jim Walther in T/F and won the World Finals in 1972, hence the Championship.

340duster 12-02-2015 10:07 PM

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Looking for anyone who has worked with installing the thin reproduction side glass in these cars. I recently purchased the glass and want to get as educated as I can prior to installation.

TIA
Bob

Liteweight 12-03-2015 12:16 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
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Originally Posted by 340 Six Pack (Post 489275)
You guys amaze me.... 40 years of wondering resolved in half an hour :)

I kind of figured Kenny was one of the "in between" owners not as well documented as original or current owners. So my memory is a bit fuzzy on the colors. At least I got the red part right! I do remember it having the Cragar S/S wheels. Perhaps I got the yellow/ red combo from the speed shop's decals - Lake Speed Equipment - owned by Harold "Slim" Carter who partnered with Jim Walther in T/F and won the World Finals in 1972, hence the Championship.


Charlie pulls through once again.


liteweight


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