Question Please
 

What is the difference between a S/SS combo with No heads up, no scales, no fuel check, NO TECH PERIOD and a bracket race????????

Why do you guys go race a S/SS combo but won't go to a bracket race?????????

We have heard the argument before. Class racing is not the same as bracket racing because of YADA YADA YADA YADA, but look at question #1 then answer both.
Chip Johnson

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None, that's why I won't run one like that.

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Because it's a glorified test and tune and a good, although maybe not reliable, way to judge your performance against your competitors. And there is no points given that influence anything.

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Chip, I can;t answer for the others, if I had to venture a guess, I would say most racers like racing against other Class cars, as opposed to a true Bracket car. I've done both, had no problem doing either. I guess I prefer S/SS races for the reason I stated, plus most S/SS combo's are a better entry/payout ratio, or pay more to win, potentially (Hagerstown last weekend was $100 to enter, $2,000 to win).

As far as the S/SS Association races I put on, most tracks we run at don't have scales or fuel check equipment. Plus, I don't have the money to pay someone (like a Terry, Duane, etc) to show up and do the tech and post-run checks. Because of that, we don't have qualifying or heads-up runs. The only real rule is that a racer must dial the Class Index or quicker, and I would say 99% of the racers at my events over the past thirteen years have been safely under, with no need to cheat (weight, carburetor, etc). I guess you just assume if one is not 100% legal, they all are that way. Hence, no advantage to it, with the no heads-ups/qualifying rules.

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SS/S combos are regular old bracket races with Legal Stockers and Super Stockers only. (Super Stockers are actually No Box)

Legal meaning most if not all have passed tech inspection at NHRA & IHRA sanctioned events. Constructed with the limited rules.

Most SS/S Associations will enforce courtesy staging, no deep staging.

Footbrake & No Box bracket cars have no rules other than Transbrake or No Transbrake & ET limitations.

I have no problem racing my stocker in footbrake but do you think a low 9 second tube chassis big block on alcohol would dominate a SS/S Combo?? I know some that do in Footbrake.

Besides, combo races are used by everyone at some point to test with the added value of seeing the change against other cars on the same track and day without national or divisional points implications.

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The ASRA races at New England Dragway and Lebanon Valley are combo races and have always run heads up races flat out no breakout, no dial in. This year we had 60-68 cars at 5 of our 6 races and 50+ at the other one. So it is not hurting our turnout.

I don't know how many other associations are doing it this way, but it has not hurt us, it probably has helped us. At our last event I think we had 3 heads up races. It certainly adds a little excitement and fun.

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I won't race at one like that again

I went to one where they allowed a bracket car to run as a SS car

You forgot one other rule they didn't have to be able to run the index either



:-) peace

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One reason the combo races at Bowling Green draw 50-60 cars or more is because they do have heads up races and scales. I have no desire to run the "no heads up" combo races. We have run them, but just to support the association, not because we like racing without the possibility of heads up races.

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I wish they would have weighed at the combo at No Problem, but it wasn't Pat's deal. I'm thinking I may need to find a "summer home" for the I/SA camaro up there so I can run the combos