New Comp Eliminator A/FX Class
 

The 2022 NHRA Rule Book amendments shows a new class, A/FX, for next year, for Cobra Jets, COPO Camaro's and Drag Pak's with a lot of creativity and freedom.

FACTORY EXPERIMENTAL
DESIGNATION
A/FX preceded by car number.

Reserved for 2019 and newer Manufactured Automobiles with Factory production engine of the same make. Manufacturer engines and bodies not listed in this section may be submitted for acceptance in Factory Experimental.

Currently Accepted makes/models:

Chevrolet (Camaro – COPO) – minimum weight 2,650 lbs.
Dodge (Challenger – Drag Pak) – minimum weight 2,650 lbs.
Ford (Mustang – Cobra Jet) – minimum weight 2,650 lbs.

All minimum weights listed above include driver.

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"Aftermarket planetary or clutchless transmission with a maximum of five forward speeds
and reverse permitted. Automatic transmission prohibited."

This class is going to be cool as hell!

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The future Pro Stockers, very cool!!!!






Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

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Just what I was thinking. Let's see who jumps on the bandwagon and just let's her rip. I am excited for this new class.

I didn't look at the rulebook amendments - what is the index??

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Future Pro Stockers, possibly even replacing FS if enough people make the changeover and take advantage of a bigger tire. If they phase out PS NHRA will probably keep it a “sportsman” class since the purse will no doubt shrink accordingly. Maybe they won’t muck it up with pulley changes for the sake of parity.

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I did some checking. Looks like it will be an exhibition class at first.

If it becomes a real class, I HOPE NHRA doesn't mess with it and let it stay all 3 brands (Ford, Chevy and Mopar). Otherwise it will be no better than Pro Stock is now, and Factory Stock. Just my 2 cents.....

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I didn’t see where these cars are going to run in Comp Elim.

Or am I missing something ??

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I read the description of the class. It reads very intricate and expensive to build.

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You can see more details and specs for thoses A/FX ,on page 48 to 59 of the Exhibition Rulebook, at the bottom of the rules section, on NHRA RACER.
Good reading...

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Let's all pray that the NHRA doesn't screw this up like they have done to the Factory Stock Showdown and, to a somewhat lesser degree, Pro Mod. This has the potential to be absolutely great!

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In reading through the class rules, it sounds like NHRA has plans to mess it up already. If I am wrong, please let me know, but this is how I read it.

From the top of page 49 - - -Note: NHRA may adjust (minimum weights, supercharger pulley ratios, etc) at any time to control performance and maintain parity of the category.

I understand that it is their show, but what a way to bring in a new category that could be the best thing in a few years. My rant is over, sorry.

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I feel like they have to put that in there in the case that a particular combo runs away with the class. But let's hope the NHRA takes a hands-off approach and encourages the OEM's to work with their racers to improve their products if they fall behind. Let the factory wars re-commence!! If managed correctly, this class could be epic.

This class would deserve it's own Discovery Channel show!!! Or at least a web series. And I'm not even joking. What do race fans, well, REAL race fans argue about more than which brand is better???? It's the age-old motorsports arguement. Chevy vs Ford vs Dodge. Does anyone have the phone number for Hollywood? I think I'm going to give them a call.....

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Very good interview with Brian Lohnes and Lonnie Grim on www.nhra.com about the new A/FX class.

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now that all 3 mfg have pushrod engines, why not use them? lose the blowers which the mfg keep changing to screw up the "parity", I assume faithful copies of stock bodies have a lot of drag compared to current pro stock cars, which body has the front overhang advantage?

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We really dont need another category of race cars. Adding another category of cars that take a lot of time from the program and eat up the pit space so this is just going to drop the quota numbers for the sportsman racers. Next they will be racing electric cars too. There is not enough time to run what they have now much less adding a class like this that will be the same **** fanning the doors and adjusting the wheelie bars at the pre stage line. All of this crap takes time. They will once again have to look at dropping some classes from the national events.
Actually it might be a cool class with the manual gear boxes and clutches if done right. Most fans dont like pro stock so I dont think they will flock to the track to see these cars run. Maybe they will run these at selected events where they dont have pro stock and get rid of the mountain motor cars. I assume this will be a national event only class like Factory stock.

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Keep an eye on the magician's other hand here for the misdirection.
He's got something up his sleeve, and it won't turn out well for some other class.

BTW, we've already had F-actory X-perimental for about 12 years now, haven't we?

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I love the idea but once again this is a class of $250,000 race cars that are price prohibitive for 99% of us. And those with the money to run one will demo whatever class they put them in.

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This is what is going to make me watch the class. I’d rather they had to shift them manually, but it’s still better than a boring automatic.

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We all know that most FS cars will switch over to the A/FX class. So why don't they make the FS class an NA class. No need for 2 classes with power adders. You can run a stick or auto. That would showcase the MFG's NA motors. We need some NA heads up classes! IMHO




Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

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The new FX class is an all new tube chassis car. I do not see racers taking complete new race cars and cutting them up.

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Good to see flood cars going to good use beyond underfactored stockers. Not throwing rocks at those that do, they are all fine racers who are simply taking advantage of what rules they’re given. We admire efforts like Smokey Yunick’s Chevelle, Gapp & Roush “Tijuana Taxi, etc. Unless you’re in the other lane of course.

Look forward to seeing some low seven second passes, can you say “No More Pro Stock”?

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I think this is the begining of the end for Pro Stock

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Holbrook said to count him in. He's having a new car built.

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https://www.nhra.com/news/2021/nhra-...ing-class-2022

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Holbrook, most probably Barton, Welch and who else? Hopefully Kevin Helms is involved somewhere, a Mr. Jeff car?

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Maybe Bill Skillman, Kevin Skinner, and Carl Tasca. Hopefully Frank, there will be many more; this class has the potential to be great. Let's hope the NHRA doesn't screw it up as they have done with the Factory Stock Showdown and, to a lesser degree, Pro Mod.

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Exactly. It will be the way Pro Stock used to be before NHRA allowed all composite bodies...OEM steel quarter panels, OEM steel roof panel and that’s about it. The rest will be carbon fiber....and no matter what NHRA says, it won’t be cheap and few, if any “home builders” need to apply....:)

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Whats the Comp Index for these ?

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The Comp index is 7.45.

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6.70-6.80 et is going to be the norm for the new FX cars:)

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When will we see them?

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any updates?

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Question of the Day How close and who will NHRA POLICE them?

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How about another question, without a clear view of where this "class" is going (the next ProStock or just another "class" in Comp) how many Racers does NHRA honestly expect to make the kind of investment that it's going to take?

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I think it depends on funding and sponsorship..... for both NHRA and the racers wanting to race this deal...

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"Funding and sponsorship" in the NHRA unless you're talking personal funding or sponsorship, no longer exists in what is going to be a class in a Sportsmen Eliminator. Now if NHRA made an announcement like "A/FX to become the new ProStock" then there may be some "funding and sponsorship" available but it won't be much and it will probably be mostly parts.

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Who in their right mind would make that kind of investment without a solid plan in place?

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I have a friend of mine in the latest stages of building his COPO for the class. He currently races in Comp Eliminator.

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I think NHRA is testing the waters with this class to see if it could become the next Pro Stock. NHRA probably doesn't want to come and say it directly yet, cause it might ruffle alot of feathers. IMHO





Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

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and as usual, they're "testing-the-waters" using other people's money.