2008 Mustang Cobra Jet announced
 

Ford is releasing 50 mustang Cobra Jets to compete in Stock/SuperStock!!

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/15/f...r-this-summer/
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=469318

Ford Racing Part Number: M-FR500-CJ

Program Intent:
Provide a Mustang that is a true A Stock competitor
50 units initial build
Off-road only (VIN replaced by serial number)
Estimated pricing, $64,990 WD, $69,990 MSRP
Model Year 2008 designation
Build in December 2008, vehicles delivered February 2009
Vehicle Content:
400 hp (est.) 5.4L DOHC supercharged engine
6-speed manual transmission standard; optional automatic TBD
NHRA legal to 10.00 sec ETs
NHRA Stock Eliminator legal interior
Lightweight - 3,300 lbs (est.)
Unique trim and appearance package
Drag race wheel/tire combination
Cobra Jet graphics package
Orders/Feedback:
Vehicle orders should be placed with the Ford Racing warehouse at 1-800-367-3786
Priority delivery will be given to orders of multiple vehicles
This order is a placeholder; dealers will not be billed until delivery of the vehicle to the dealer
An "off-road only" competition release will be required prior to delivery of a Cobra Jet to the dealer
Only 50 units are under consideration for 2008, so dealers are encouraged to submit their orders before June 30. Delivery will be prioritized based on order entry date.
The Cobra Jet Mustang (M-FR500-CJ) joins Ford Racing's two successful road racing Mustangs, the M-FR500-C and M-FR500-S, as turn-key race cars available only from Ford Dealers. We encourage you to take advantage of this unique opportunity to help rewrite history by ordering and campaigning this new race car.



Sounds to me like the drag wars are heating up!!
Challenger, now mustang, c'mon chebby, get a yenko camaro out!

If this was previously posted, sorry, I've been gone awhile.
Jim

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Way too cool! I wonder why a supercharged 5.4L is only rated at 400 HP since the 5.4L supercharged Shelby is 500 HP? Either 400 HP is a misprint or it's purposedly deceptive to fall into A/S class.
Obviously Chevy can't ignore this call to arms...!

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Well let's see, the 428CJ came from the factory with a rating of........335hp!?!?! LOL! Sound familiar?LOL!

Don't worry, it's a ford so nhra will tack on 50hp before it makes it's first pass!

Bitter?................Who me?

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From what I understand the Cobra Jet is going to have smaller cams than what the Shelby has.

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If GM gets in on this, it could be the start of the Big 3 battle of my generation!

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i think it would be awesome for the big 3 to have a war like this again.. but GM is ran by to many bean counters these days & not real people i doubt GM will take the bait...it would actually humor me for GM to get bought out as punishment for their stubbornness in todays market... they might actually sell a few cars if they would make something that people actually want.. or can afford...just my opinion though:)
i think it would be great if they let the buick division do whatever they wanted where performance is concerned, i know the last time they did the result was more than anybody expected... but then again i'm a little biased:D

i think its great that ford is doing this, & hope somebody actually races one..

i also wonder if or how much this will increase the value of Lloyd & Dg's lightweight Gas Rhonda car... i'm sure it won't hurt its value any.

just my 2 cents

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Things that make you go Hmmmmmm...

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Sounds like TOP/STK will be a whole new game next year. Watch for it to become a FEATURED race at NHRA events and USED to recreate a spectator appeal.....AS IT SHOULD BE>

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I'd vote for this, but what viable platform does GM have any more? Malibu? Impala? They seem to care a little about their Cobalt/Ecotec program, but it's *several* notches down from the Cobrajet/Challenger offerings. We've been waiting since '02 for the Camaro, and a late '09 arrival date (will be an '10 model) is still just a guess, and will be soooo far behind the market that it hardly even seems viable any more. Granted, I'd love nothing more than to see a S/S Camaro from the factory, but if it's taken them 7+ years *just* to replace the previous generation (that was in production for 10 years mind you!), then how dad-gum long would we have to wait for the S/S version? Until '11...'12...?

Typical deal for us Chevy fans...GM is a day late, and *at least* a dollar short...:rolleyes:

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I'm wondering if AA/S class will evolve into a seperate entity like AA/H class. :rolleyes:

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That is super cool, but $70K for a Stocker? And that's before the racer rips into it and 'tweaks' it.

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Only weak link will be if only ford uses the supercharged version in their car. Once a Power adder is used the factoring possibilities become impossible. I suggest similar sized Carb or injected motors so the power to wt and the wt to cubic inchs are similar in all brands...OR ELSE we will see the same daily changes to the cars that was a problem in the original times of heads up factory cars. Each company could use it to showcase their 400 + cube crate motors.....

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Original post says 400 HP supercharged 5.4L. Smaller cams wont take away 100 HP from a supercharged engine. Not when comparing a passenger car cam (Shelby GT500) vs. an emmissions exempt cam (Cobra Jet drag-pak) at least.
Dick, NHRA has stated in the past that supercharged engines must retain OEM pulley ratio's in Stock. Not that it's the only way to regulate boost but that's what they look for. But for some reason they see no reason to regulate boost on turbo cars in Stock.
Ford sells mant supercharged engines to the public. I say let them race what they sell!

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Only if the factories pay for it no way will NHRA start another Elmin after what happed with Pro Stock Truck.
Ralph

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I agree with you premise of race what you sell. I just hope they all sell a supercharged motor. If AHFS cannot figure Injected versus Carb for 5 years Imagine 'Charged versus non versus Turbo in a class intended to "showcase" current models.

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I agree. I think both of us would take a supercharged 5.4L any day over a 392 HEMI with no supercharger. But I'm with 1664SSJA, my economy doesnt support a $100K Stocker anyways!

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The thing is, they *would* sell...to collectors. This GM guy will have to give FoMoCo credit, they've hit a home run with the nostalgia/collector folks in regards to their Mustangs...and ChryCo has followed suit with their Challenger & S/S upgrade...and GM is on the sidelines licking their wounds.

Anyway, unless the NHRA does it like the SCCA did with Corvairs back in the early-mid '60s and make you have a certain ID tag from a manafacturer to run in a certain class (Yenko Sportscars, Inc & D/Production), then the racers are simply gonna start with the el-cheapo base Mustangs and go from there...

I guess us GM guys will have to hang our hats on the Corvette...which ain't such a bad thing, I guess!

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With the way NHRA could care less about stock and SS who cares? Not the fans thats for sure.

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Who says you have to have an original to race the class? How many Hemi and Thunderbolt cars are originals? WE all know you could build a clone a lot cheaper than $100,000. and no one cares if it is an original anyway.

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C'mon guys, they're not even built yet and some are complaining about factoring/cost/etc??

And ya wonder why nobody wants to listen to a sportsman racer bitch?

Let them build them, somebody will buy them, collectors or not who cares, the main point is they will be in the guide.
Yes so ANYBODY can "buy a base mustang" and build one. Nobody has ever bought/built a base model car and swapped parts to get in a class?

%$#@!!

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The car dealers that get a hold of these things will probably put 20-30k price on top of the MSRP.

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You got it Jeff, and most of these cars will end up in collections, not on race tracks.

It would be cheaper in the long run to "build" one of these cars vs. taking one of the real ones and converting it.

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EXACTLY...and that's a crying shame. A good friends dad passed away a few years ago, and one of his sayings has always stuck in my mind:

"Never have a gun you can't shoot, a woman you can't make love to, or a car you can't drive..."

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I don't know about collectors only. I'd be willing to bet if you had somebody like John Calvert call Ford, he would get one at cost. Maybe even less. I think a name and reputation will go a long way. Whether or not somebody like John would spend the money or not is another story. But I do suspect he's sold enough traction devices to afford one if he wants! :)

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In your dreams Chrysler has no $$$ Ford barrowed 22 bil last year and GM no interest in Sportman racing so don't look for FREE cars from anyone. Press say's GM will have to barrow 8 to 10 billion to get through the end of year.

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BOR,
Re-read my post. Nothing said about FREE...

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Did anyone notice that it said these things were NHRA legal to 10 second ET.s ? I heard they were going to come with 6 point roll bars and the necessary safety stuff. You may have to put a good trans in it but the safety stuff is supposed to be there. How cool is that.

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Mopar will build 100 Challengers, and I think they will be sold direct to racers. These are race cars, not storage vehicles. 3 power options More as it rolls out.

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Jeff,

Is one going to you? When I think of Mopar guys, your name comes up first.

What will your dealership sell a regular Challenger for? I have heard about $20K markups around here. Man. I love that body style!

Thanks.

Jeff Goss
SS/MA 6990

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We plan on three Challengers. One each for my sons and one for Lil Joe. They will be race cars. We got seven of the production SRT 2008 Challengers. They are all sold. We sold them for window sticker. We refused some offers from brokers & stuff. We already have 2009 Challengers schduled. Some 6.1, some 5.7, manual, auto, asssorted colors. The unknown is if the 392 CID, 600 hp street legal motor will be used in any of them. As far as that 10K to 20K over sticker, in a small town that cost you more in the long run. One of the new Challengeres we are selling is going to a customer who is bringing it to Comp Cams for a complete redo which will be in several magazines. That customer has a black one coming, his dad has a black 300 SRT, and his brother has a black Charger SRT. Should make a nice package.

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These cars will not be worth as much unless someone takes one and races it. They will not be street legal, so who will want one unless there is some history behind it. Back in the 60's The CJ Mustangs and Hemi Darts were RACED, no put away by some collector looking to make money in 20 years. Kinda like collecting historical firearms, a wartime German marked Browning High Power is worth more than a postwar made one. Beacuse of where and how is was used. If these cars do not get raced, they will not be worth as much. Just my 2 cents

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Todd: you're correct in the fact that car's with race history bring more money...used to, guys bought favorable combos to race or drive everyday without thinking about collectible value down the road because it had never been the case before, but folks today buy cars with the intent on sitting on them in hopes that they're the next "Honus Wagner" card...remember the '78 'Vette Pace Cars? Folks drove those straight from the showroom to their garages and parked them...yet still after 30 years, even cars with single digit mileage won't bring their original MSRP. New cars are no different, and if folks out there even think for one millisecond something might be colectible, then you can darn sure bet the collectors will buy them up...whether it be beanie babies or hot rods. Folks are doing it now with the regular Mustangs now, so why would a limited production S/S edition be any different? I'll tell ya right now, it won't, unless the manufacturers require an NHRA license or comp # before a person can own the car.

Now, with all that said, that doesn't mean a car with no race history will be more valuble down the road than it's show pony counterpart, but I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that *if* collectors/speculators can get their hands on them, they will...and the cars will sit...and that means fewer to go around for actual racers, and if dealers smell even a hint of shortage then you can expect a price hike. I can see it now...FoMoCo rolls the very first S/S Mustang across the stage @ Barrett-Jackson, Steve Pratt bids a gazillion dollars for it, and wham-o, that's one less car for the racers...only 49 more to go!