Gas Money
 

DRAG BOATS GET ‘GAS MONEY’ TO TOW TO AUGUSTA

The Agent is informed that the board of directors of the Augusta Southern Nationals, a drag boat event to be held July 18-20 on the Savannah River in Augusta, GA, has offered to help racers attend the event. In an effort to offset the impact of high fuel costs, all participants, excluding PWC, who race in the 2008 Augusta Southern Nationals and have not received a local boat sponsorship from ASN will be awarded $150 to offset expenses associated with making the trip, according to board member Jeff Banks. [07/15/08]

This was copied from one of the online drag mag web sites. I've been preaching for years that IF, you go to any meet, div. or nat'l, pay entry, and qualify you should get travel money.
Maybe NHRA could give gas money for a Class win?
Doesn't look like class is gonna be good for anything else.

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Terry;
Sit down,grab a beer and light up a good Honduran cigar and relax.Send a note to Graham Light and wait for a response.After that make your funeral arrangements.

Ed F.

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NHRA will NEVER give sportsman classes money just to qualify. Especially not enough to really offset fuel costs.

However, there are things they could and should do.

1. Discounts on entry fees scaled on the number of races attended. The more you race, the more they discount. Sure, Fletcher, Biondo, and others like them don't necessarily need the help, but I see plenty of true small time racers running a LOT of races, and they COULD use it.

2. One crew member free with entry fee.

3. Reasonable increase in the purse.

4. Round money starting at least with 2nd round winners.

5. Cut or eliminate their (NHRA's) mark up on things sold to racers at the track, such as fuel, tires, other parts, even bags of ice (sort of ridiculous that ice at the track often cost 5 or 10 times what it costs at WalMart).

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To the best of my knowledge the APBA (American Power Boat Assn.) has a policy for paying tow money to preentered racers in all classes for certain events. On the other hand, they don't pay a purse, you race for trophies and points towards a world championship. They also have a voting membership that lets the Sportsmen (the majority) dictate policy for the Pros (the minority). True.

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"NHRA will NEVER give sportsman classes money just to qualify. Especially not enough to really offset fuel costs."

Alan,
Never say never. Bush said he'd never put a time frame on withdrawal. Hmm, look what's in the news.
NHRA would if, it was to their advantage. No reason in the world, with the bargaining power NHRA has (members) they couldn't do a deal for gas cards and get a discount on the deal. They could then give qualifiers a gift card for say $150.00 worth of gas and it would cost NHRA maybe $100.00.
They could also negotiate a deal for gas cards and sell to members at a discount. Say, $100.00 card would cost $90.00

Once they get all this going they could build an old folks home and we could all live there and BS and bench race all day. (Just kidding)

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For the most part, NHRA's concern for their advantage stops at their bottom line. When their main focus is on the pro categories, TV time, and a sponsor for the pro side of the organization, it just isn't likely we'll get anything for towing or qualifying. Giving us a gas card that costs them $100 is like giving us National Event entry for Division race prices. I don't see it happening. Not even if we were able to have a major organized boycott, which ain't happening. Shoot, some races have car counts almost as low as 1/2 what they were a year or two ago, and NHRA hasn't offered much, if anything. And they aren't likely to.

Look at it like this, a hundred cars in a class is $25K for NHRA, 4 because of class rotation, and the fact that Comp and Top Alcohol don't generate the car count. And you don't see too many races with 4 classes with a car count of 100, either. But we'll leave it there for the sake of argument. To make the math easy, we'll say they pay $5K in purse to each class, counting round money, even though they don't. So that leaves $20K per class. That's $80K we generate, no fans included, before tech, time, space, and administrative costs. Then say you get the gas card deal. And qualify 64 cars. That's another $6400 out of that $20K, and now you're down to $13,600. But wait, if you qualify 64 cars, and send the rest home, how long before only 70 or so cars show at a race. Now they only get $17,500 to start with. Make the same cost subtractions, and you get $6100. Times 4 classes, and you gross $24,400, for 4 classes, again, BEFORE they take out for tech, time, space, and administrative costs. I just don't see it happening that way.

But I agree Terry, it's nice to dream.:D

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Doesn't NHRA still help pay Summit Series divisional ET winners for their trip to the world finals in Pomona?
I got a little back in 1980 (the first time they crowned world ET champions, then shelved the idea for many years) when they had it in Ontario, CA

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They also pay the pros from our entry fees I believe.

Ed

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Admittedly my math is a little fast and loose, but there's already not near enough there to pay any of the pros, and my figures are gross, not net.

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Alan,
Add in membership, gate, souvenir's, etc. and TV rights.

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Yeah, they get $64 each a year. And they say the Dragster absorbs 1/2 of that.

I doubt they get much in the way of TV rights for us. We get one show for an hour per event, and only alcohol cars get covered (we personally actually got 15 seconds at the end of the Gators' show).

NHRA considers the pros as the ones drawing the vast majority of the gate, and if you've looked at souvenirs, you know NHRA makes their money off of their own stuff and off of the pros.

I'd LOVE to say we generate more than we do, and that we have a bunch of leverage. I just don't see that we do. We're not well marketed, NHRA doesn't want to and doesn't care to, and we are too busy beating each other to death to act in our own best interest.

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It seems that EVERY thread about S/SS boils down to the same argument that we dont get enough
coverage and or attention.Then fact has and will forever be that the majority of fans couldn't give two
s#&@* about S/SS.They want smoke,fire and noise.Poor Dick Butler needs to enter an alzheimers
facility.It's admirable to think that his hairbrained schemes are going to save us from oblivion but it just isn't going to happen.Plain and simple NHRA just wants our $$.We get less and less every season and pay more and more.I make posts that may rub some people the wrong way only because I sit and read some of them and it's actually a small circle of people either with an agenda or the inability to stop and think of the way their solutions will affect others.I have no answers that would appeal to the majority of S/SS racers and either does anyone else.Especially those who dont even race and post ideas to save us from ourselves.

Ed F.

Not a clue
 

There are so many people making statements and presenting it as fact, because they think if they say it is has to be true.

This is for the people that don't have a clue.

NHRA in the past paid Stock & Super Stock racers qualifying money.

NHRA paid the first round loser in a qualified field, which are Class Winners and the fastest of the losers.

In addition, it's not Class Winner Bump In; it's that the losers get a chance to race because they need a full field to cut down on bye runs.

The field can be 32 car, 64 car or 128 car (that's as high as the ladders go)

As usual along with NHRA not getting it, it also appears that a lot of Class Racers (or want to be) don't get it either.

Bob

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WOW! I'm home! Jim

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Bob,

Here's something for people who can't grasp reality. Be careful, you're about to step on a clue rake.

First off, if you can prove you have a better grasp on the math, post it. I'd like to see it.

Second, Wally Parks died last year, and the NHRA that was non profit and dedicated to sportsman racing and safety died about 20 years before Wally did. That past is gone, and it is never coming back.

Third, if you've got more facts with regards to what is happening NOW, post them. But what happened in the past and your emotions are neither facts nor relevant to what is happening and what will happen.