GM = General Mopar?
 

With the ongoing talks about a merger between GM and Chrysler, what do you think the future could hold for a car company named General Mopar? Good? Bad? Are there benefits? Drawbacks? A HEMI Corvette? LS10 Viper? What are your thoughts? Jim

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I think I am going to be sick.... J/K. ;)

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Believe me, I understand. Jim

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Maybe it should be more apply named "col. Klink"..........

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Sort of like the "bail out". It makes a bigger train wreck of a smaller one. I can see few, if any upsides to such a merger.

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Could rename it AMC.
LOL
Chip

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You guys are on crack !!

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Guess we'll start seeing GM parts in Jeeps again lol.

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I could never put a Pentastar on the hood of my GTO.............NEVER EVER ! ! ! !

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Being serious.....I don't see it really happening according to what I've been reading.It looks like GM would need a HUGE amount of cash for this deal to go thru.However with the government possibly buying GMAC's bad mortgages,that could allow GM to borrow money to give to the 3 headed dog along with the rest of GMAC finance,in exchange for Chrysler's automobile operations.If it does happen,look for the Chrysler brand to go away like Plymouth,along with Pontiac and Buick.Jeep would be the only thing to help GM along with Cummins diesel engines.GM will dismantle Chrysler,keep what they want and get rid of the rest.


If Chrysler goes away...I'll run a Ford.

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There's already talk of VIPER being sold off, probably to a "small car company" (under 2500 cars per year, something compareable to Saleen or Shelby) as the CAFE standards get whacked pretty bad with Viper type vehicles. And I hate to say it but I've also heard you can slow down on saving your money on that Drag-Pack Challenger.

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and the new General Mopar 'Coriper' with a LS Hemi...............

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426 Max + 69 Camaro = fast car. Just kidding, but that would be one strange sounding Camaro. Nothing else sounds like a Max.

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Reading the news about this in more depth,it seems that GM also was talking to Ford earlier about a possible merger.IMHO,it would make sense for GM to merge, acquire,buy out (or however you put it) Ford or Chrysler as GM would get rid of one of it's major competitors,as that would increase it's market share.Personally,I would rather the American "big three" stay the big three.

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My dad has some very good friends within Chrysler and this is for real. He knew about this a while ago and we didnt believe the guy that told us. Certain things wont go away in this buyout, the HEMI being one of them.

If this happens does this mean I can run a 440 6 pack in a 68 Camaro in SSGT.

Herb Jr

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So whats the big deal with GM and Chrysler merging. The real fun starts since Toyota made an offer for both of them. Stick that bowtie and penstar together and you've got an import.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA I have a Plymouth........Wagon.

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The GM-Mopar merger reminds me of the discussion I had with a bank employee last week. Seems my local bank mergered with another bank in the eastern part of the state.When I asked about the merger, the teller explained to me how it would 'make the bank stronger'. I suppose the expression on my face must have tipped the girl off I wasn't happy. It reminded me of the same response a local farm equipment dealer said to me about three farm dealers merging.

I think when any two or more businesses merge, it decreases competition and creates a monopoly.Prime example: Exxon Mobil. With little or no competition, you can set your price.

Hondas, Toyotas ect are competition, but the profits go outside the country..

Home Depot came to town with great prices. Now the few 'Mom and Pop' businesses that are still in business can match or beat their prices. If you think Exxon has huge profits, check out Monsanto.
They own 22 different seed companys. High price of food?

Small business will soon become extinct.

Andy Stone

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I don't blame you. It would look meaner with a Rams head!

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Chrysler LLC's corperate Dealer Connect web site for dealers and technicians has a denial posted on the home page today and issued a statement to dealers on Saturday, which is highly unusual, dening the rumour. .......It does however confirm it has been in discussions with other companys looking at global partnerships. .....As a privately held company, they really don't have to disclose too much,and usually don't , so a comment from them like this shows it must be rubbing a nerve somewhere up the food chain. ......Tom ......PS Jack, did'nt you find the AMC badge I hid on the GTO?

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you guys do know that Hakim & Donoto is gone from Mopar now and rumors have it that those $200K SS'ers will be running for penny's and trophys again only.
Like the old saying goes, "How do you like me now" is what they might be saying?

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Something tells me that $$$ wasn't the sole concern for those guys that built the $200k SS'ers. Spending $200k+ to get a car on the starting line to race for $10k is hardly turning a profit. LOL

Can't say I'd be too happy if the deal goes through. I had planned on buying a Dodge truck after passing the bar next year. Not so sure I'd be too big on "brand loyalty" if Dodge is owned by the company I swore I'd never buy or drive anything from!

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I just had a funny thought.Will Chuck have to build motors that will last for 3 time shots and potentially 7 rounds now?

Ed F.

Hope they still pay me for class and or W/RU?

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I'm looking forward to the new "Corporate Head" for my six pac.
If history is a precedent, the engine will lose five horsepower just prior to the approval of the of the aluminum 401 head. This new head will look just like the Chevy head and bolt up to the 440 block. Intakes will be slow in coming so we get to use a 1050 Holley
instead of the 1350 cfm we now have. Intakes will be made of carbonfiber.

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Funny stuff Larry!

This sounds more like a merger than a purchase. Neither one has any dough. Don't know what Ford will do if it has to compete against a GenPar motor car company.

The new Camaro is slated to be introduced at SEMA in three weeks. Maybe next year they will introduce the new Chalmaro.

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I guess they wil have to change the name of Pro Stock to Pro GM, since the lone Ford is not competitive (which sux, cause I am a Ford guy)

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This will be good for Ford guys since we'd be the only ones not having to share our brand loyalty with the former enemy. I'd imagine they'd have to allow Camaros (no"e") and GTO's at the big Mopar shows to go along with the AMC's they inherited decades ago. Maybe they'll give out the Bloomington Gold award to Corvettes at the Mopar Nats?

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I guess all the Mopar guys will be able to run Super Chevy now too.

I for one will nor be swithing, I am quite happy with my Blue Oval. Been racing and driving nothing but Fords for so long I dont know if I could even put together a small block Chevy anymore.

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Word has it that gm is burning through the cash and has about 1 year left of reserves. Mopar is hidden since they went private. Ford has cash for approx two years but started getting lower % loans long before the others and is in much better shape financially. The other thing with ford is that they have reduced the size of the company and completely changed the cars.

In other words, fresh product and cash/loans available is much better than dwindling cash and a refusal to downsize or even recognize the problem.

GM and mopar merging will benefit ford because if either gm or mopar fold then the tier2 companies that make parts for all three might fold which would hurt ford. If they merge, lines stay open, small parts suppliers stay open and ford has one less competitor.(more market share)

I hope the domestic's get it together and kick the imports asses but it has to start with the buyers too.

Remember, support domestic's, the job you could be saving, just might be your own!

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by the look of fords new bottom line on inside detroit today ,maybe they too should join the party.then it would be usa vs imports..

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i guess if it goes through you will be able to get mopar parts at 7-11 also.

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I have been in tier one and tier two automotive supply for nearly fourty year and a drag racer for longer than that. The merge would be outstanding, MoPar has always built great race cars and GM could build all the tow vehicles!!

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Thank God mopar designed the Challenger before the GM engineers got their hands on it.

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While at this year US Nationals all the Ford Sportsman racers were invited to a get together over on the Pro side to meet and mingle with the new Sportsman Rep from Ford. We were ushered in and they had a great meal waiting for us along with the keynote speaker from Ford, who I can't seem to remember much about including his name. He told us of how he and Ford greatly appreciated our years of loyalty and said that a "new leaf was going to be turned over" and that Ford was going to give $5000.00 to all the Sportsman Racers who drive/own Fords. All we had to do was get 12 people to buy New Fords Products in that given year while using our personal "Pin" number, that would be assigned by Ford and we would have the $5000.00 in a Parts Credit credited to our name. Even though Ford makes nothing for my FE motor except maybe oil filters, it sounded great at first, but since I've been in the car business since Noah came over on the boat, I found myself being taken back to when I was selling New and Used cars for Hemphill McCombs Ford in San Antonio and realized that this was just another Sales Meeting!!!

Then came Bob Tasca III who really is a nice guy, but sounded like the many Sales Managers that I have listened to in the past. Then to really put the icing on the cake, out comes John "The Force" himself and away he went on a 20 minute verbal autobiography of how his first car was a ole' Fairlane (I almost teared up at that point), he went on to tell us that Ford really needed our help and support if they were going to continue to support the Racers.

It was at that moment that I realized the serious situation that Ford was in and also the thin ice that Tasca and Force found themselves. Where were they during the good times? Hell I have been selling, driving and racing Fords all my life (64 years so far) and I never heard from anybody from Ford, John Force or Tasca I, II or III during the last 48 years telling me how much they appreciated the Sportsman Racer and our loyalty to the Blue Oval.


Now I have never been accused of being the "brightest bulb on the tree", but in retrospect realized that if things don't improve for the Big Three (or the Big Two) there won't be any money for Mr Tasca or Mr Force or anyone else.

I hope that everything works out for all the Companies involved, and especially all the Racers themselves. This will be a very interesting 18 month period in my opinion, and hope all of you weather the storm.

Enjoy today!!

Later RJ

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Hey R.J.

Good post.
If Ford really wanted to "Git-Er-Done" they should have gotten Carroll Shelby to be the keynote speaker for that shindig. He would have rallied the troops, got all the paperwork through, and made everything bigger and better for all the Ford racers!!! Ha!

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we could use it.