Track Altitudes
 

Does NHRA have a list of the altitude of all of their divisional/national event tracks?Any help would be appreciated.

Ed F.

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I'm not looking for the correction factors,I want the track elevations.Looking for Div. 1 tracks mostly.The track websites for Lebanon and Cecil are the only 2 that I've found so far.None of the others have the info on their websites.

Ed F.

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ED , One thing for sure is they're all under 1200' if they're not on that list.
Some of the tracks have their altitude listed on their websites.
The old Dragstrip Guides usually had it listed,too.

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Mark;
I checked the websites.Like I said LV and Cecil were the only ones with their elevations.Cecil was +320 and LV +603.I know Englishtown is near sea level.I need the info for a new weather station for next year.
I'm gonna get this car figured out if it kills me.

Ed F.

What cas the elevation of Conn. Raceway? I'm sure it's in your memory banks.LOL

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Ed - Check out www.whowon.com. On the left side in the middle of the home page there's a brown "track directory" box. I picked several different tracks at random and they all showed elevation in the "notes" field. Don't know how accurate, but maybe better than nothing. Hope this helps.

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Ed,

Download Google Earth (available online as a freebie) and type in the address of the track (or any address).

If you select the correct set of choices under the "Layers" menu, you'll be visually transported to the site and the elevation of that spot on the surface will be displayed. I just checked Maple Grove and Google Earth said that the starting line is 519 feet above sea level. Does that sound about right?

The same tool indicated that the starting line at Las Vegas was 2003 feet while the starting line at Pomona is indicated at 1033 feet.

I'm sure that more accurate elevation data is available somewhere on the Internet but those numbers work pretty well for me.

c

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The NHRA Fan Guide lists elevation for Nat. Event Tracks. That will give You E Town, M Grove & VMP Atco should be close to E town.

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Thanks guys for the leads.Now with this info I'll have another excuse for losing.


Ed

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Ed, Chucks got the best way with Google Earth . ........ Google map is also accurate. .....Call me ,Ive got an old Race track directory you can have. ....I dont think they've been printed in years, but its got good info in it. .........Tom .......................Found it in my lap top bag. ...Atco 102' ...... Cecil Co 187' ........ Etown 98' ........lebanon 899' ...........Maple Grove 522' .......... Numidia 1007' ........Virginia 200' . Yeah, we got it rough in D1. ...... Except when the humitity is 80% and the temp is 90 deg all Summer !

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Ed...are you going on tour for the 2009 season like Fletch and others??? :) :) :)

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The only tour I'm taking is the Poor House Tour.I lost my retirement job recently.Is'nt easy finding a p/t
job that will allow me the off time to go to races.I want the altitudes to compliment the new weather station I'm getting for next year.
If I hit the Lotto I'd love to go West.I owe Ed O. a beer or two.

Ed F.

Thanks Tom I'll pick it up when I get a chance.BTW the alts. you mentioned here are way different from the ones I got off the track websites and fan guide.Gonna try Google Earth.

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Ed,

If you need guidance getting to the correct layer on the Google Earth application, e-mail me at <cnorton7311@verizon.net>. I had to mess with it for a couple of minutes to get the display I wanted.

c

PS - When you sit down to drink a beer with my friend, Ed O., let me know. I'd like to sit in. I'll even throw in a 12-pack.

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Ed, those altitudes are from an old book, maby 12-14 years old. The altitudes were probably measured with an altimeter. ........... The Google is much more accurate as it is GPS based. .........Btw, an interesting side note, todays barometer at the Las Vegas race is 27.84" as reported by Drag Race Central. ......This is a raw, uncorrected reading that most racers use with a weather station. ......The official NWS "corrected " baro reading at the Las Vegas airport is 29.98". .....Using a correction factor of .10" baro for every 100' of altitude , this is pretty close. .....Tom

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try this. It shows some altitude numbers. Sometimes 80% humidity is a good day.

http://www.chasinracin.com/track-locator/bytype.shtml

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Thanks again to all.I'm getting conflicting altitudes so I'm going with Google.Now I hope this info and the new weather unit helps with dialing in next year.

Ed

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Can anybody tell me what the altitude is at Motor Mile Dragway at Radford,VA?

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dragway is @ 2050 FT +/- 50 feet---Comp 387

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I dont know how accurate Google World is but I found some interesting results by checking the shown elevations of the starting line and finish line at the tracks I checked.

Atco s/l 93' f/l 84'
Cecil s/l 309' f/l 291' (I always MPH well there)
Numidia s/l 865' f/l 880'

Just a few examples.

Ed F.

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Wow. If those numbers reflect a trend, that could explain a lot about a lot of different tracks. Wish I had time to put this info together for all the tracks. Would be interesting to see.

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Mike;
It doesn't take long.Load Google World and on the main screen type in the track address.Track webites
give their address.When you get an overhead shot scroll in to the s/l and read the elevation(unfortunatly it's in meters) do the same at the f/l and you'll see the difference.

Ed

Google World is great.I looked up where I was stationed in the Army in Korea in1964.I think I pinpointed
the location.The world is at your command,at least in pictures.

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Thanks FED387! This now explains why my car runs so much different from Motor Mile to New London. Is there a free download somwhere for Google World?

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Musk,

I believe the operative name is "Google Earth."

Go to:

www.Google.com
Pulldown menu entitled <more>> >
Choose option entitled <even more>
Earth is the eighth item in the left column.

Select <Earth> and follow the prompts.

The basic version is free.

c

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Humor me
Can someone find start line elevation and finish line elevation of Earlvile, Iowa
Tri-State Raceway I believe

Thanks in advance

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Thanks for the correction Chuck.I was a little tired out when I made that post last night.

Ed

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Randall;
I just tried to get the info on Earlville and for some reason I cant get a good focus when I pan in.Cant see the track surface,but the general elevation in the area

is about 305 meters.Maybe someone else can get better info.

Ed

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Randall---I believe there is something mentioned on Tri-States web page as to how it was constructed to the MAXIMUM down grade NHRA allows...something like 3-4ft if I recall, or perhaps it was a percentage.

BTW---let's try not to meet anymore in the 1st round in '09. I sleep better knowing I don't have to run you in rd 1.

Trav

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Randall,

The resolution of the satellite shot for rural areas in the mid-west is not as intense as it is for urban areas. The image for Earlville makes it difficult to get a really tight view of the area but, if I'm identifying the track accurately from about 10,000 feet up and it's located just south of U.S. 20, the starting line would be about 1040' and the finish line would be about 10' lower.

Ed F.,

There is an option to change the elevation read-outs to American dimensions. I remember making the change but I don't recall exactly how it's done. You'll need to explore the site in order to find it.

c

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Ed,
If you do the math on the start/finish elevations I think that is real close to 1%. Is that how NHRA figures Grade % ? Somewhere in my a cluttered memory bank I have 2 % as the Max Grade NHRA allows for tracks that can set records. Does any one know for sure or have a link to the correct %?

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Maximum downgrade allowed by NHRA is 1% - 13.2 ft. Earlville, and Oahe Speedway are at the max, and both are fast. Pomona is also close to Max downgrade, and is one of the reasons cars run fast out there even though the actual elevation is close to 1000 ft.

Jerry