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Nova4301 11-25-2008 03:28 PM

Lightweight wheels
 
I have been trying the compare wheel weights before I buy. I can find just a couple weights as they are listed in jegs and summit, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a place to find weights for many different brands (i.e. centerlines, bogart, american racing, weld racing, etc.). Generally, I am looking for 15x3 1/2 or 15x4 front wheels and 15X8 or 15X10 back wheels (5 lug). I have draglites now (15x8 and 15x 31/2, I am not even sure on how much they weigh) and I was looking to get rid of some weight.

Darrin Christen 11-25-2008 03:58 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
When I switched from Weld Draglites 3 1/2" front wheels to there Weld Magnum Drag 2.0 one piece 3 1/2" wheels The difference was 7 lbs. lighter per wheel and tire. I weighed the old ones with good year 25" tall tires and the new ones with hoosier 26" tall tires. My wallet was also alot lighter! lol Darrin Christen 4878SST

Nova4301 11-25-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrin Christen (Post 93644)
When I switched from Weld Draglites 3 1/2" front wheels to there Weld Magnum Drag 2.0 one piece 3 1/2" wheels The difference was 7 lbs. lighter per wheel and tire. I weighed the old ones with good year 25" tall tires and the new ones with hoosier 26" tall tires. My wallet was also alot lighter! lol Darrin Christen 4878SST

I appreciate the info Darrin. I believe I remember having some close races with you a few years back in super street (could have gone either way kind of racing). Anyhow, I am probably either going with those welds or the new Pro-5 M/T fronts. I wish M/T made 15x8 or 15x10, but all they have is 16X16 for the rears...I guess I could always order one and cut it in half.

Myron Piatek 11-25-2008 05:12 PM

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Your best bet would be to call the manufacturers. But remember that you start compromising strength with some super lightweight wheels. I recall a center breaking out of a wheel when a car turned a corner past the ticket booth at Norwalk years ago (Rink/GTO/Nova???) and an early Camaro leaking air in the staging lanes at Dinwiddie from a stress crack.

Holeshot Wheels has a wide variety of styles which are pretty light and with custom offsets. They have also started producing lighter one piece billet fronts which will eventually be available in all of their styles. But you'll need to call for specific weights.
www.holeshotwheels.com

Dave Turner 11-25-2008 06:27 PM

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Myron, what is the history behind Holeshot wheels? Just curious as I had never heard of them until seeing the product on your car - and I work in the aftermarket trade. (Not sure what that says about anything but I have not run into them at trade shows etc.)

Darrin Christen 11-25-2008 07:24 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova4301 (Post 93652)
I appreciate the info Darrin. I believe I remember having some close races with you a few years back in super street (could have gone either way kind of racing). Anyhow, I am probably either going with those welds or the new Pro-5 M/T fronts. I wish M/T made 15x8 or 15x10, but all they have is 16X16 for the rears...I guess I could always order one and cut it in half.

You raced a white corvette with the black nose and wheels, how could I forget! You and your brother Jeremy were always on the number. I seem to rember losing a close one to you at Noble in the late rounds a few years back. Are you guys still running SST?

Myron Piatek 11-25-2008 07:47 PM

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Dave,
They also go under World Class Machine just north of Daytona Beach, FL. It's a CNC machine shop whos owner is also a car enthusiast that origianlly decided to do wheels on the side. I hooked up with them in 1995 but I'm not clear on the history before then. It is a small wheel business when compared to the "name" brands, but word of mouth, deals with chassis builders, dealers like Harlow Tire, my efforts & others have kept them busy enough to not need much more regular advertising in the past. They have been doing more advertising lately with a few ads in National Dragster in the last few years, been attending some car shows and races, been at the PRI show in Orlando for the last 2 years and will be there again in a couple of weeks. By not getting too big, too fast, they can concentrate more on customer service, quality and do more custom applications & offsets.

I've always liked to describe their products as a good balance of weight, strength and price. But they are constantly looking to reduce weight without compromises and have been getting SFI certifications. Their one piece forged front wheels (not sure if "billet" was accurate in my earlier post) is their latest effort to save weight. But their original 3-piece design, still pretty light, also offer the options of offset changes, damaged section replacement, etc. instead of having to buy a whole new wheel.

Dave Turner 11-25-2008 08:46 PM

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Thanks for the background on Holeshot Myron. I don't know how I missed them at PRI. I've been at all of the Orlando shows.

Myron Piatek 11-25-2008 09:02 PM

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lol
As big as that place is, it's easy to miss a few displays. They were way in the back the first time and are slowly moving up. I wish I had time than just Saturday to spend there.

greg fulk 11-26-2008 03:34 AM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
When I took the Center-line Convo-pros off my car last spring & put the M/T wheels on it I took 6lbs off the front of the car....( i was thinking it was 6lbs a wheel but that sounds like to much). I went from Hoosier 28 front runners to M/T 27.5 also.

68Coupe 11-26-2008 09:29 AM

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Greg did the swap pick up any ET

Nova4301 11-26-2008 09:33 AM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrin Christen (Post 93684)
You raced a white corvette with the black nose and wheels, how could I forget! You and your brother Jeremy were always on the number. I seem to rember losing a close one to you at Noble in the late rounds a few years back. Are you guys still running SST?

We still run SST some. We run more IHRA stuff lately...more bang for your buck with double event or even triple event weekends...and they cater to the sportsman racers better. My brother has been running the vette and I just starting running my nova in Hot Rod this year with some success. The question on the wheels is really for a stocker nova I am building...not too worried about weight on my 10.90 car.

Eric Merryfield 11-26-2008 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68Coupe (Post 93807)
Greg did the swap pick up any ET

I have a set of convo pro's front runners in the garage, if I remember correctly, they are 15 X 3.5 or 4 and weigh around 10 pounds. If I get a chance this weekend, I will weigh them, along with the convo pro rears that have new hoosier light weights and the weld racing super 2's with standard radials.

The tire weights are just as critical. I have moroso front runners on the dakota, nice light tire.

formula447 11-26-2008 12:55 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Bogart D-10s 15x4 7lbs and they look great.

Ron Miller 11-26-2008 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by formula447 (Post 93857)
Bogart D-10s 15x4 7lbs and they look great.

Are these for sale ?? How much did you pay for them. I'm looking for a pair of fronts 15 x 4 with 2 & 1/2 back space. 4 & 3/4 bolt space.

Thanks

Ron

greg fulk 11-26-2008 02:01 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
68coupe I can't answer that...i do so much "stuff" to slow this car down that I really don't know if it helped or not E.T. wise.

Myron Piatek 11-26-2008 05:07 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
FYI - I was just told that the new one piece forged wheels are coming in at a little over 7 lbs and are 15x3.5. - $405.65 racer net

Their 3 piece wheels w/billet centers come in at a little over 8 lbs and are 15x4. - $299.25 racer net

Weights will vary a little based on design. You would have to call for more detailed info.

www.holeshotwheels.com

Tim H 11-26-2008 08:36 PM

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Must these Holeshot wheels be purchased direct,because they are custom made ? Do they have any distributors who sell to Canadians ?? I have submitted their online form asking these questions.
Are there many other wheel mfrs that can supply a 15 x 14 w/ 8 1/2 or 8 7/8 " backspace ?

james schaechter 11-26-2008 10:52 PM

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Larry Hodge has the new MT wheels. He weighed one and it was 7.1 lbs! and SFI. I had a set of Monocoques and they cracked. I think the new MT's are worth a look.

The Hawk 11-26-2008 11:06 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Just curious. On a Stock or Super Stock type car,has anyone noticed much of a difference in ET by putting on a lighter wheel? You put on a lighter wheel,you have to compensate for the weight elsewhere,unless you are having a problem making the minimum. On my V6 stockers,I`ve never noticed a difference between a light weight aluminum wheel and a steel wheel after compensating the weight difference.

Myron Piatek 11-26-2008 11:29 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 93942)
Must these Holeshot wheels be purchased direct,because they are custom made ? Do they have any distributors who sell to Canadians ?? I have submitted their online form asking these questions.
Are there many other wheel mfrs that can supply a 15 x 14 w/ 8 1/2 or 8 7/8 " backspace ?

They are not all "custom", but are hand assembled and checked. Standard, in stock offsets/backspacings are at 7/8" in 1" increments. But they can customize the offsets a bit at an extra charge. I'm sure you can order the standard or custom offsets from them or a dealer. Turn-around isn't long if they are out of stock or for a custom version. But only they can tell you what the current time frame would be.

The closest distributor I know of is Harlow Racing in Michigan. http://www.harlowracing.com
I don't know if they have any in Canada. Holeshot is closed until Monday.

Chad Rhodes 11-27-2008 12:12 AM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 93942)
Must these Holeshot wheels be purchased direct,because they are custom made ? Do they have any distributors who sell to Canadians ?? I have submitted their online form asking these questions.
Are there many other wheel mfrs that can supply a 15 x 14 w/ 8 1/2 or 8 7/8 " backspace ?

I sell to canadians, and am a WD for Holeshot and Bogart. PM me

jjordan 12-01-2008 07:31 PM

Re: Lightweight wheels
 
For Comparison:
Draglite 15x10 15.2 lbs
AlumiStar 15x10 13.0 lbs

ProStar 15x3.5 10.7 lbs
Draglite 15x3.5 9.55 lbs
Amer Pro Series TracStar 15x3.5 1 piece 8.5 lbs
Amer Pro Series Torq Thrust 15x3.5 9.4 lbs
Weld Magnum 15x3.5 1 piece Lug Mnt 7.2 lbs
Weld AlumiStar 15x3.5 1 piece Lug Mnt 8.0 lbs


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