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ok,this is gonna be my first year running s/c..my current set up runs 8.70@150...now would it be more consistant to go on the stop early or farther down track? i know it wont be on the stop vary long,so i am trying to decide wether to go on the stop early,and shift after comes back on,or let it launch full bore,and go on the stop after the shift...lookin forward to runnin with you guys this year..thanks brian

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I say go long and stop it @ the end.

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For years I help my dad with his 9.6 Camaro in 9.90. We tried everything. What worked the best for us was an electric base stop. We turned the timer on at .1 and run it out to wherever we need it to run 9.90 (or 9.86 :D). We set the rpm on the stop around 800 under the convertor stahl and let it gradually rise. Worked pretty good for us!! We also tried shifting right before the stop went off and didn't see much difference. For us, using the stop down track added to many weather related variables, mostly headwind.

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being that clost ot running 8.90 I would try adding some wieght and run it out. I would be afraid to put it on a stop trying to scrub a tenth or two.

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freddie..i had thought about that,or also thought about shifting early and seeing if that does it.

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Take all that "STOP" junk and throw it in the garbage. Buy or build a Stock, Super Stock or Comp machine. Fans and most racers "HATE" stop cars. It's ruining dragracing.

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well its a good thing i didnt ask if it was a fan favorite......so,since you cant answer my question,just dont chime in at all.....better yet stfu..

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I've tried them all :)
What worked best for me was to go on the stop early as you can , so you can have the whole track in front of you and get all of your MPH .--- I ran 9.90 @ 150 with a car that would only run 153/154 all out !

Colorful Racer

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This is the .90 section of this site right?? Go back to where you came from jerk off!

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Hey Pete, dont sugarcoat it, tell'em how ya feel.

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I think that every time somebody starts bashing T/Stops, but never posted it good for you !

Also I agree with Eddie on when to use the stop

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I'm not asking everyone to like T-Stop racing, but if you don't why would you come to our side to bash us. I don't agree with spending $20,000 on a motor that makes 285 HP. but you don't see me going over to the stock guys bashing them......(and I am not saying that "jerk off" is a stocker, just using it as an example)

I love the kind of racing I do and I am proud of it, even if the fans use are track time as a hot dog break. Lets face it, none of us do what we do for attention or money, we do it because we love it! Delay box, Throttle Stop and what ever else it "bad for the sport"

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And thank's for backing me up Bob, wish Gary had the testicular fortitude to do the same (Gary, that meens BALLS)

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I’m with Pete


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I think Ruth and Homer ROCK! Also I am not sure what fans the stock and SS guys think are watching them? The stands seem just as empty to me. I still say, move the grand stands to the finish line, you know where the race is. Then will see which class is boring and which ones a nail bitter. Or better yet I want a head count of all the guys in s or ss that have ever ran a .90 car. There is a real driver Dan Fletcher, he seem not to proud to drive a .90 car. But hey, this is just my 2 cents.

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Ruth, what did ya do with your little beer drinking buddy????

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This will be my first year in s/c -q/r also.After stocker racing for 7years,I am very excited about getting behind the wheel of a dragster.Maybe even t/d at the divisional level.I am FIRED UP!

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I find myself having to agree with Pete on this one.

With a 150mph S/Comp car your geting chased by 99.9% of the field no matter how you slice it, so why go on early?

Lets look at Stevie Mesik’s deal, Stevie runs his 10.90 @ 100mph and kicks *** and takes names, and does in all on at the top end @ 100mph ( without a stop I’m told, secret stuff). So a slow mph deal can work and turn the win light on.

So with a slower car mph car ( for the field,no offense meant, but 150mph for S/comp is a slower car) I’m with Pete and Stevie’s program, take them deep, deep, into race before they can make a decision.

Another possible option would be to run the “ Davis traction control” box along with “ THE MATTY BOX“ and that way who give a rats arse what mph ya run? Ya just set up dead on every pass. that way he only needs to worry about cutting a light. :>)

As far as the “MATTY BOX” is concerned ? One should consider the upgrade from the magnetic wheel sensors which use a sine wave and opt for the hall effect sensors which are a digital signal and much cleaner signal to read at slow speeds.

That’s all Y’all

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I know guys/gals that go on the stop as early as .001 to avoid wadding up the tire, with that small amount of time you are talking about. I might use weight, shift time, or other tune up means to avoid a T Stop all together. Shifting sooner or later by 100 rpm, about 6 lbs per 100th of weight might be a good starting point, a manual thumb stop on the carb to control WOT can work. I have a Pig Farmin buddy that does more off the wall stuff than you could imagine that runs right on, that nobody wants to race or loose to.

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Ruth you are a SICK SICK man ,And ready for a rubber room . ROTFLMAO . My turn to buy the happy meal this week , I will call ya on tues

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Hey moron someone left a massage for you over here:

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FREE?

LUNCH?

I'm in.


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Ruth,

You are to friggin funny! As far as the whole stop thing goes, I know when I was going 7:50 in my dragster bracket racing, I hated to run a 9-10 sec. car because it was so hard to judge the line (could be because I have no talent). I would think that if you made the stop come on around the 1000' mark, it could really screw with people, however I have no idea how consistent it would be because I never tried it. Sounds good on paper though.

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Ask Bob Keister from Div 1, from what I understand he runs 9.90's at like 104 mph....

Bob has a really cool looking wagon, and is one great guy, I really miss being up in N.J. at times.

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Ed DeSault was SG Champ in 2001 with a148mph Vega. Beat out Scotty Richerdson for #1. He stoped it on the starting line then turned the stop back on down track. Used the over ride button if needed

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Just my .02... I ran 8.90 @ 154 mph with stop on @ .30 out then off @ .750-.1050, rpm on stop was 4300 rpm (any lower and there is not enough in the timer) and I shift on rpm. If that is your set up do not worry about big mph cars, they are not judging you very easy coming on @ 20-25 mph difference and your picture @ the top end will usually be the same. Good luck!


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I agree you need to give it 4300 or more rpm on the stop. Our small block setup worked well stopping a little further out .3 or so, At 150 I agree it is as hard for the high mph cars to judge the stripe as it is for the slower car to judge them. You have to be consistent and once you get a setup don't change the RPM or first timer. Only adjust the second timer, this will let you learn the weather change easier. If you run a linkage stop be sure to have a solid pedal stop or you will stress the cable. If you do anything involving the carb, pedal or linkage remember to re-check the stop rpm. also remember to pull the chip when doing this. Don't ask how I know that. Then kick butt.

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you guys are too funny.....Ruth....you better get that car apart....so you have something to do....when you have too much time....it gets scary....

my 2 cents on the dragster....its all about accelerating off the stop....so turn it on early and shift on RPM....turn up the stop RPM till you have more time than the stop takes to move....(in bad weather)...use an electric Dedenbear if you can.......lighten your car as much as possible....its ok to beat up on all S/C competitors...as I won't be there....

When the thing runs really consistent and you're winning.....change everything to try and go 2 MPH faster...JK

CBS

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oh yea ....to that clown....that I'm sure has never driven an 8.90 or 9.90 car....much less raced one....

after the stocker or super stocker comes down from the wheelie.....you can eat a sandwich and wave to you in the stands...while you're waiting for the finish line....in a good 8.90 or 9.90 car....your hanging on and paying attention...our dragster went faster in the 1/8 than our super stocker will go in the quarter.....and that was on the stop....over 3 seconds....those cars are fun to drive....and the politics are nill..everybody helps everybody else....you can tell anybody anything because its almost all driver.....while the stock and super stock guys are wrenching between rounds...we are on the golf carts looking for food and beer........plus its the most economical way to race....(not exactly in our case) .........so don't knock it till you try it....

cbs....

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Pete, I just saw your response today, heres something for you, by the way, happy holidays
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Best laughs I've had in a few weeks!! You guys are all too much! Making me miss all the fun at the track REAL BAD!!
You better keep this up while my computer is shut down for the move so I will have some interesting & fun stuff to read when back up!!!!
Early Happy New Year!!!! Will be off line as of the 1st!!

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That's back when music was music! Makin me feel old. Have a good new year, see you @ the banquet in a couple of weeks.

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Don't forget the cards & chips:)

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No need for chips Mark, just give me the money, we will play a couple of hands and call it even. You know I will wind up with the money any way!

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I run the same numbers you do. I go on the stop at .3 for anywhere from .1 to 1.1 depending on the weather. My stop RPM is 4100 with both the primary and secondary butterfly in the stop. I only run about 150. You can win like this. It all comes down to cutting a light and running the number, If you do that it doesn't matter if they run 200mph.

See ya at the track!


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