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njk53 12-25-2008 06:29 PM

Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
From time to time I have been reading about guys complaining about deadbeat companies taking their good old time paying off
contingencies or not paying off at all. My brother and I are new to stock eliminator and would like to know who to stay away from if at all possible. These guys make quite a bit of money from us racers and if they don't treat the racers right, I am not going to use their products if there is a good alternative.
We are not heavy hitters but one day you never know, you may end up winning or runner up and end up getting stiffed by these guys.

vic guilmino 12-25-2008 10:01 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
Jw is one

Lou SG2340 12-26-2008 08:22 AM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
JW, Castrol, Crane Cams have yet to pay for June Atco win

Tom Goldman 12-26-2008 09:59 AM

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All my contingencies from my r/u at MG have paid ,EXCEPT, Crane, which just sent the tax form to"enable them to pay me",120 days after the event ,,,and CSI, for the water pump. .......Most of the manufacturers are pretty decent, only a few who seem to be bad players. ......Strange is the absolute BEST as far as paying ,and supporting the racer. ....Theirs were the first checks I got for both contingency,and the Perfectly Strange Award, Which was on my doorstep,delivered by Big Brown the following Wed. after the race! ................Tom

Robert Pare Racing 12-26-2008 10:56 AM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
Definitely stay away from CSI..I think Jet Hot sucks too..support the companies that support and promote our sport...Strange, ATI, Mark Williams, any of the Honeywell brands, Hoosier, Turbo Action, Comp Cams, VP, and Royal Purple are just a few that have a decent report card when it comes to paying contingency moneys quickly and painlessly. I am sure there are more good ones than bad..Maybe Lee Zane can chime in and let you know more about it, he has checks raining on him about right now. :)

John Mason 12-26-2008 12:38 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
Comp is always the 1st to pay, followed shortly by Mickey Thompson.
As noted, JW takes months of e-mails and/or phone calls to get paid. Prior experience as a bill collector is a great help when dealing with them. Get the names of all you talk to as turnover is very high.

luckydog 12-26-2008 01:07 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
ATI is the first to pay me. Mickey Thompson, Jegs, Moser, Comp, ARP,Russells, Holley and Stroud usually pay within one month. Summit is usually pretty quick also. I had a win and runner-up in June that I'm still waiting on money from BTE and Crane. I talked to Chase Knight of Crane at PRI and he told me they are just getting caught up. :confused: Last season was the same way with Crane. After numerous emails I just finally got my money from CSR the other day....

trmnatr 12-26-2008 06:38 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luckydog (Post 97602)
ATI is the first to pay me. Mickey Thompson, Jegs, Moser, Comp, ARP,Russells, Holley and Stroud usually pay within one month. Summit is usually pretty quick also. I had a win and runner-up in June that I'm still waiting on money from BTE and Crane. I talked to Chase Knight of Crane at PRI and he told me they are just getting caught up. :confused: Last season was the same way with Crane. After numerous emails I just finally got my money from CSR the other day....

With Crane they can be off by dates on this kind of stuff and back orders too BUT they will take care of it,, Chase is a very good person to deal with, Roy too

Maybe some of these companies are a little late due to the economy (??)

My opinion is,, Its better to get it late than to not get it at all

Patrick Kelliher 12-26-2008 07:46 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
I love the tax form I got from Crane with the note "to expedite payment." Never mind I received this form after getting checks from all the other companies. I still have yet to see Crane's actual check.

tim worner 12-29-2008 11:28 AM

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What really grips me is that these companies that have not paid out all year are posted with NHRA for 2009. How can they do that. Should they not have 2008 season payments taken care of before they are able to post for 2009. My preliminary count of contingency sponcers for 2009 is 20 less than 2008 even counting the ones that have not paid for this past season. 20 X $300 = $6000. That's a pretty large loss.

buzzinhalfdozen 12-29-2008 11:52 AM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
This may be slightly off subject, but does anyone else think that if a company is a cont. sponsor and you win/ru and the N or I hra has verified your cont. why should'nt you leave the race with a check for all your money? I really think since the sanctioning body made the deal with these companies that they should have an account with each company to pay the racer on the spot, I mean we don't get to "send a check" when ever we feel like it to buy the parts or to enter a race for that matter. Just seems like everything else it's pass the buck time, sorta like dealing with many sorts of collection, if they put you off long enough maybe you'll just give up. Just my opinion, Joe

Geddes 12-29-2008 01:40 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
Crane had a MAJOR layoff announced just before the PRI show.

5919 SSKA 12-29-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
Suprised no one mentioned BG Fuel Pumps as a poor.

I'm switching to Aeromotive just because of that this year on my Super Stocker.

Mickey Thompson, Jeg's, Nitro Plate, Impact, Haulmark, Coan have all been quick from my experience.

Paul Dilcher 12-29-2008 08:08 PM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
JOE , good opinion .

njk53 12-30-2008 12:07 AM

Re: Dead Beat Contingency Providers
 
I agree with you Joe B. All contingency providers should be required to have the contingency money paid to the NHRA/IHRA prior to any event for which they will pay a contingency. At the conclusion of an event, the NHRA/IHRA pays the money to the winner/runner-up. It could be very easy to administrate. Problem
is the powers that be get their money up front and don't want to kill the golden cash goose. Why should they be concerned whether we get our money fast,slow, or not at all. They have theirs. If that were me, I would be taking care of the guys that support me every event by getting the prize money in their hands as quickly as possible.


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