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Wade_Owens 01-19-2009 06:00 PM

Coolest or Oddest Combo.....
 
What is one of the most intrigueing combos you've ever seen someone run as a class car? Give us some details on why you felt this way, maybe how fast it ran or some pics? Its really cold and we need something to talk about instead of taxes and the economy.

Wade O

greg fulk 01-19-2009 06:50 PM

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Even to this day I think A.H. Adkins SS/B AMX is the coolest! car runs in the 5s 1/8 mile low low 9s 1/4!

Michael Beard 01-19-2009 07:15 PM

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Ray Golanka's Q/SA Cadillac! Ran like 12.80's @ 103 mph back in '98, factory tow hitch and all. I think it eventually went quicker yet, when Billy convinced him to turn off the A/C. ;)

http://www.staginglight.com/stocker/stkvsgolanka.jpg


Other fav is Tom Gould's "Gray Ghost" Corvair:
http://houseofhook.com/2008/Photos/T...e/DSC_3006.JPG
(Allen Cook Photo)

Joe Schweigert 01-19-2009 08:52 PM

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I agree on the Corvair Bill Hoefer ran one on the west coast years ago

Sean Haning 01-19-2009 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 101119)
Ray Golanka's Q/SA Cadillac! Ran like 12.80's @ 103 mph back in '98, factory tow hitch and all. I think it eventually went quicker yet, when Billy convinced him to turn off the A/C. ;)

http://www.staginglight.com/stocker/stkvsgolanka.jpg


Other fav is Tom Gould's "Gray Ghost" Corvair:
http://houseofhook.com/2008/Photos/T...e/DSC_3006.JPG
(Allen Cook Photo)

Michael, is that your L body in the other lane? I think thats an unusual combo. But as an avid fan of FWD Mopars I like your car.

Mark Yacavone 01-19-2009 09:24 PM

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Johnny Bartlett, Salem ,Oregon...because he had to make all the speed parts himself instead of throwing cubic money at the car.
(That's the way it used to be done)








http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...artlett-vi.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...rtlett3-vi.jpg

MHoward 01-19-2009 10:38 PM

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Jimmy Bridges 66 Corvette,Big block 4-speed Gotta Love it.I have loved that car for years,If I had the money I would love to run a old 421SD Pontiac.


p.s.second would be Robyn Browns 66 Chevy Twice with a peanut motor and a handle in it,that car is freakin awsome to watch,High RPM small block goin through the gears.

Michael Beard 01-19-2009 10:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Haning (Post 101149)
Michael, is that your L body in the other lane? I think thats an unusual combo. But as an avid fan of FWD Mopars I like your car.

Yup! Back before it was painted. That was my first round of Stock eliminations ever -- Numidia Raceway FMDRS.

After paint:
http://www.staginglight.com/stocker/stkatatco1.jpg
(It's in the classifieds section as well)

GUMP 01-19-2009 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 101119)
Other fav is Tom Gould's "Gray Ghost" Corvair:
http://houseofhook.com/2008/Photos/T...e/DSC_3006.JPG
(Allen Cook Photo)

Ditto on that one.

The best combination that I ever ran was the L99 (baby LT1) in my 1999 Camaro. I spent months (and $$$) getting the L99 into the books and got to make two runs before the IHRA banned fuel injection in Stock GT!!

GUMP 01-19-2009 11:04 PM

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I also started building an LT4 1997 Achieva for Crate Motor and they stopped allowing aluminum head motors in FWD conversions. That would have been a really neat car.

Brandon Wilkinson 01-19-2009 11:13 PM

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I'll second Robin Browns car.....one of my favorite cars to watch. The sound of that thing will give you goose bumps.

Chad Rhodes 01-19-2009 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Wilkinson (Post 101188)
I'll second Robin Browns car.....one of my favorite cars to watch. The sound of that thing will give you goose bumps.

Agreed, I will also add Scooter Andersen's Chevy II

Sean Haning 01-19-2009 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 101177)
Yup! Back before it was painted. That was my first round of Stock eliminations ever -- Numidia Raceway FMDRS.

After paint:
http://www.staginglight.com/stocker/stkatatco1.jpg
(It's in the classifieds section as well)

I saw the progress on your site, very impressive. I also saw it in the classifieds, but I have too many irons in the fire for another car. You should rent it to me.;)

Chad Rhodes 01-19-2009 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Haning (Post 101191)
I saw the progress on your site, very impressive. I also saw it in the classifieds, but I have too many irons in the fire for another car. You should rent it to me.;)

Sean, I know a certain guy who may be willing to lease his "spare" 69 camaro stocker..........i think you saw it at Super Chevy

Sean Haning 01-19-2009 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 101193)
Sean, I know a certain guy who may be willing to lease his "spare" 69 camaro stocker..........i think you saw it at Super Chevy

:eek: I don't know what would be more shocking, actually getting back on the track in something with some power, or driving a bow tie. The car may burn to the ground with my Mopar body in it! LOL. I'd hate to have to wrench on someone elses car like that. I have 3 FWD turbo Dodges and two muscle mopars. With a Chevrolet I wouldn't know which end has the fuse for the dynomite.:D

Sorry, back on topic. GO CARDINALS!!! Oops A.D.D. is rough.

Mike Galuk 01-20-2009 12:42 AM

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Guys, I talked to Tom (Gould) last week and he is planning to run some NHRA this year. He is planning on going to the Div. 2 race at Gainesville next month. If he can get enough grading points he wants to run at The Carolina Nationals in Sept. If you are at Gainesville next month stop by and see the GRAY GHOST. It is probably the oddest combo still racing in Stock. Mike

Mike Galuk
JOE COOL RACING

Scotty D 01-20-2009 12:50 AM

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ah adkin's amx is amazing,as well is robin brown's chevy2and scooter anderson's.anybody remember when brian self had a chevy2 called the magician mike cates drove it before he had it.and i also like tony depillo's honkin hemi belvedere it's like a 3700lbs prostocker.i'm partial to all the chevy2's though,david manning's 65 and what about the chevy2 that was painted baby blue in opposite front and rear and white in the opposite corners with candy colored squares all over it,the guy's name was ronnie i can't remember his last name at the moment.

larry dowty 01-20-2009 12:39 PM

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How about art leong's FWD dodge neon current record holder in SS in the 12's with a 4 banger and a automatic O.M.G.

Wade_Owens 01-20-2009 02:13 PM

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Did anyone ever run the 4 cylinder version of the Chevy II?

I really like the Tri-5 stuff, any 55-57 Chevy Super Stocker will put me on the fence.

Remember Ron Filkins' Black Death '57? also one of my favorites....

Wade

Dave Turner 01-20-2009 02:46 PM

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Jack Larsen's V/S '72 Comet gets my vote.....and it's a 3spd to boot!

Bob Don 01-20-2009 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101305)
Did anyone ever run the 4 cylinder version of the Chevy II?

Wade

Steve Tarrance held the record in X/S with a '67 Chevy II. I am not sure if it was a 4-banger or a 194" six.

X-TECH MAN 01-20-2009 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Don (Post 101318)
Steve Tarrance held the record in X/S with a '67 Chevy II. I am not sure if it was a 4-banger or a 194" six.

194 six.

Dwight Southerland 01-20-2009 04:26 PM

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Scott Wilcox's '67 L88 Corvette in SS/A.

bill dedman 01-20-2009 04:27 PM

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How about Minneapolis/St. Paul's Richard Charbonneau's '66 (or, '67?) Fairlane wagon with a dual-quad, 425hp FE motor and a 4-speed??? Doesn't get a whole lot weirder than that, unless you remember Helena, Arkansas' Jack Mullins, who had a Pontiac station wagon (about a '63???) running in Super Stock with a manual transmission, and winning a lot... and, I'm not at all sure about this, but I THINK it was a 2-bbl car. Anybody remember the carburetor on that car? (Dwight?)

X-TECH MAN 01-20-2009 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 101339)
How about Minneapolis/St. Paul's Richard Charbonneau's '66 (or, '67?) Fairlane wagon with a dual-quad, 425hp FE motor and a 4-speed??? Doesn't get a whole lot weirder than that, unless you remember Helena, Arkansas' Jack Mullins, who had a Pontiac station wagon (about a '63???) running in Super Stock with a manual transmission, and winning a lot... and, I'm not at all sure about this, but I THINK it was a 2-bbl car. Anybody remember the carburetor on that car? (Dwight?)

Charbonneau's car was a single 4 barrel (410 HP) and a flat steel hood. Jack Mullins' '63 Pontiac was a 235 HP with a single small AFB.

Wade_Owens 01-20-2009 05:33 PM

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Was there an aluminum head Buick, 2x4 deal in or around the mid 60's?

Also, what about the 4 cylinder Pontiac Tempest with a Q-jet?

Any body ever try or own one of these?

Wade

Dwight Southerland 01-20-2009 05:52 PM

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Jack also built a '63 four-dour hardtop for SS/R to butt heads with Dwight Cox's Indy-winning '66 Impala. He also built a '73 SD Firebird, but gave out on NHRA's decision to do breakout racing on the indexes.

I think Don O'Malley's '64 Corvette is cool. So is Eddie Miranian's '68 when he runs it with the 3x2 carbs.

Pillo's SS/B Hemi. Neil Smedley's turbo Firebird. And who was it that built the turbo '80-something T-bird for R/S? Blew everybody away with NO sound.

Mark Y. - If you are going back as far as Johnny Bartlett, you are going to leave out a lot of this crowd.

My personal favorite cool door car, although not a Stock or SS car, was the Wayne County Opel B/G.

Sean Haning 01-20-2009 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by larry dowty (Post 101280)
How about art leong's FWD dodge neon current record holder in SS in the 12's with a 4 banger and a automatic O.M.G.

Most people don't like fwd Mopars. Heck Sometimes we don't even like each other!:D

art leong 01-20-2009 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Haning (Post 101410)
Most people don't like fwd Mopars. Heck Sometimes we don't even like each other!:D

Tim Kish has gone in the 12's (might be a premonition for me for 3 weeks from now) I've gone 13.1 so far
4 cyl fwd auto 2600 pounds
Tim Kish and I really "P" them off and we don't even have turbos. For them to complain about LOL

bill dedman 01-20-2009 06:46 PM

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X-Tech Man....

Thanks much for the correction! As soon as I read that, I remembered the "medium riser" setup they put in those Fairlanes. Still, it was a weird combination, I think. Probably no weirder than the wagon of Jack Mullins, though. Seems like Jack's wagon was a 3-speed stick car, but I'm beginning to doubt my memory, now.... was it?

Bill

Dwight Southerland 01-20-2009 06:51 PM

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Jack's wagon was a 4-speed. He used a BW Super T10 w/2.88 first gear.

Sean Haning 01-20-2009 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 101435)
Tim Kish has gone in the 12's (might be a premonition for me for 3 weeks from now) I've gone 13.1 so far
4 cyl fwd auto 2600 pounds
Tim Kish and I really "P" them off and we don't even have turbos. For them to complain about LOL

You running all the div 2 meets?

bill dedman 01-20-2009 07:19 PM

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Arguably, some of the most unique cars ever to come from Detroit were the A/FX 1963 Pontiac Tempest 421's that ran in A/FX.

They shoe-horned some of the dual-quad Super Stock 421s that were also run in the "'63 Swiss Cheese Catalinas" into the engine bay of several Tempest coupes and wagons before the G.M. front office pulled the plug on factory involvement in racing, early in 1963. Hayden Proffitt had built an "unofficial prototype" 421 Tempest for the 1962 Indy race, but I don't think it was factory-connected. It probably did set the stage for these later, factory efforts, by showing that it was an effective package, though.

Their drive-train was strange, indeed. Tempests, until the '64 models, used a transaxle and a "rope" driveshaft that sow-bellied under the car with a sag in the middle, so they didn't have to put much of a "driveshaft" tunnel in the floor. The 421 A/FX cars used that same setup, but their transaxles were worthy of note, too. The transaxles were based on the Corvair Powerglide transaxle, but I seem to remember that they had two cases, with two planetary units, giving four speeds forward. The ratios were fairly close, and this transmission could be had with a clutch OR a torque converter!!!

Unfortunately, being basically, modified Powerglides originally designed for the 6-cylinder Corvair, they just didn't have enough "beef" to withstand the rigors of match racing on resin-enhanced starting lines, and nearly all got replaced in pretty short order, with 4-speed Hydros and '57 Pontiac rear ends. I believe at least one survives, intact, today.

The "swiss cheese," lightweight '63 Catalinas (so-called because of the frame having been vociferously attacked by a BIG hole saw) were interesting race cars, too, but lived in the shadow of the Mighty (mighty fast!) 421 Tempests.

If the G.M. "front office" racing ban hadn't come through when it did, I'm sure that Pontiac would have built more of these rare cars, but alas, not enough of these or the awesome Z-11 '63 Chevys ever made it into the Class Guide (back then) because of restrictive rules regarding eligibility.

Sean Ward 01-20-2009 07:21 PM

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I like my car it is the only Chyrsler Imperial racing in stock anywhere 81 imp 318ci weighs 4080# will run a second under and it is fun fun fun. of course the second under is with new motor.

bill dedman 01-20-2009 07:31 PM

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Thanks, Dwight; I was in Iowa all the time he raced that car, so I never got to see it run, but I figured you probably saw it lots of times.

Bill

doug schriener 01-20-2009 07:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 101151)
Johnny Bartlett, Salem ,Oregon...because he had to make all the speed parts himself instead of throwing cubic money at the car.
(That's the way it used to be done)








http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...artlett-vi.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...rtlett3-vi.jpg

Mark-If you want to recall something odd,how about Ted Harbit and his Studebaker?

art leong 01-20-2009 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Haning (Post 101449)
You running all the div 2 meets?

Yes

Ed Fernandez 01-20-2009 08:07 PM

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Anything that Billy gets his hands on is cool.It wouldn't surprise me if he showed up this year with a
closed body 1 HP Amish wagon to run in V.


Ed F.

Jim Mantle's Pacer fits the bill also.

Mark Yacavone 01-20-2009 08:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 101399)
Jack also built a '63 four-dour hardtop for SS/R to butt heads with Dwight Cox's Indy-winning '66 Impala. He also built a '73 SD Firebird, but gave out on NHRA's decision to do breakout racing on the indexes.

I think Don O'Malley's '64 Corvette is cool. So is Eddie Miranian's '68 when he runs it with the 3x2 carbs.

Pillo's SS/B Hemi. Neil Smedley's turbo Firebird. And who was it that built the turbo '80-something T-bird for R/S? Blew everybody away with NO sound.

Mark Y. - If you are going back as far as Johnny Bartlett, you are going to leave out a lot of this crowd.

My personal favorite cool door car, although not a Stock or SS car, was the Wayne County Opel B/G.


Oh really? Then I better not bring up Ken Wilkinson's Jeep station wagon.

Mark Yacavone 01-20-2009 08:22 PM

Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade_Owens (Post 101381)
Was there an aluminum head Buick, 2x4 deal in or around the mid 60's?

Also, what about the 4 cylinder Pontiac Tempest with a Q-jet?

Any body ever try or own one of these?

Wade


The Pontiac 194 and a half, with the 4GC is way too high horsepower.

Same with the 68 Firebird Sprint Q Jet Cammer

The Chevy II 4 cyl is way too deep into W/S...3 speed only,too


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