Sticks to auto's on new Cobra Jets?
 

I just wanted to ask the question, not looking for any negative feedback. I'm impressed with Fords involvement with the new car even being a Chevy guy.

From what I read though all the 50 produced cars were sticks. So how can so many be changing them over to autos?

1968 395/375 Camaros for instance are stick only because supposedly Chevy didn't put a turbo 400 behind them until 1969.

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Troy,

The CJ's can be order with a stick or auto. I believe there are a few from the factory with an auto. Unlike the '68 396/375 that could not be order with an auto.

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Ken, 1970 camaro 402/375 were stick only from the factory.

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So if an engine is,was "available" in a particular car but never produced that car should be legal???

Nothing in specific in mind just wandering

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1970 402 375 were not stick only.

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OH!! yes they were stick only cars. Just like the 302 Z/28. But thanks to division tech director they now are not.

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I heard there was one auto CJ produced. That is all it takes!

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Take it from someone who is old enough to have owned one straight from GM.
The 375 HP versions in 1969 and 1970 were available in automatics. It was a turbo 400. If you left it manually in 1st gear and let it over ride into second at about 7,000 to 7,200 RPM it would really snap your neck or boil the wide oval tires when it did shift to 2nd.
Does anyone remember the auto workers strike in 68 which lasted into early 69 that extended the 69 production runs of the camaro well into the 70 model year? Thats why some people refer to the new body style 70 model as a 70 and 1/2.
Been there owned one brand new from GM.
Oh The Good Ole Days!!!
My 2 Cents

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There are only 50 of these cars being built, I just got back from the Roush facility that built all of these cars. They are all sticks that left the building, However Ford has the option so you can put a Automatic in them.

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Tom they were available with a automatic. There was aoption on the 1970 Z28 for an automatic, however, there were non produced.

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Troy what was the RPO Z27 option listed in 1968 for the 396/375 hp?

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WRONG ! I owned one for a short while and so did my best friend. We bought them NEW off the showroom floor. One was white with black stripes. The other was RED with black stripes. Turbo 400's with 350 cu. inches and they were 1970 Z-28's

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cool the chevrolet book that I was quoting is wrong, was there ever a 454 put into a 1970/19701/2?

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You need to check with Lynch on the 70 camaros

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So it doesn't have to be actually built just published "available" ?

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RPO Z/27 is Supersport option. All big block early Camaros are Z/27s.

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Not by GM......Motion Performance out of NY did several.

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Back in the late 60's all the solid lifter engines (except in Corvette) was not listed in hardly any of the GM order info. You had to know the dealer rep and get a special order form called Central Office Production Order COPO. Some dealers would not even order from this or couldn't I am not sure which. You had to dealer shop for someone who would get you what you wanted.
I bought mine from Ted Simmions Chevrolet in McClean TX. Ted would get you whatever you wanted. It was a small town dealership on I-40, which is now long closed.
Its been 40 years ago but I did help fill out the order on my purchase for a 69 and then later for a 70 model both with the 396 375 HP option engine and it was a write in code not on the order form. The 69 was with a automatic and the 70 model was with a 4 speed. If we could have come up with the right code I guess we could have ordered the 427 but we did not have the coding for that. Ted had the coding for the listing Special High Performance 396 - 375 HP.
I actually owned both of these.
Wish I still had them.

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It took me 3 different dealers in the AkronOhio area to finally find one that would order me a 68 Chevelle with a 396-375 with the aluminum head option. First 2 dealers didn't even have the iron headed option 375 in their order books. Most dealers didn't want to fool around with any hi-perf. options. Could have bought a 68 vette from Motion-Baldwin loaded 427-L88 m22 4:88 for 6800.00. The Chevelle was 3010.00. My friend bought the exact same options m22,4:88 375 in a Camaro for 110. more because of the front disc brake mandantory option. We bought L-88 short blocks for 1150.00 Now you can't buy a hemi block for under 2500. and that is being produced in China.

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I was thinking about this today trying to remember what I paid for each.
I believe the 69 was about $2900. I know it was less than $3000 for a brand new car!!!
Hard to believe. I do remember it did not get built before the strike in late 68 when it was ordered. I do remember the date I picked it up. It was January 23, 1969 when I drove it away. I was in my cousins wedding that day also and he is still married to the same gal. It must have been a good day.
The 1970 model cost about $3300 if I remember correctly. I thought the price increase in one year was outrageous but I still ordered and got it in about a month after it was ordered.
Both of those cars were fun and I have a lot of memories with them.
Just wish I still owned them but back then they were just not that special except for the solid lifter engines. There were lots of muscle cars around and lots of street racing going on.
The Good Ole Days

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I bought a Bllack/Black 69 Nova with the L89 engine ,4 speed, 488 rear NO radio nothing NO extras plain jane button hub caps NO SS pkg new for if I remember right about $2900 + tax and my brother bought a 69 Chevelle 300 deluxe 2 dr sedan same way for about the same $$$--He sold that car in 1999 for $20,000-- I sold my car to a racer from Alabama in 1995 for $18000 and a 89 Caprice--Mine had 7000 yep 7 Thousand miles on it never saw rain or snow sat inside all winter in a heated garage--Not a mark on it looked like it just left the dealer---Wish I still had that car bought an apartment building with the money--Comp 387

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Saw this on Competitionplus.

http://teamjdmvideo.vidiac.com/video...990023d572.htm

They state the cars being initially detuned and they will be available soon with a pro-shifted trans by Liberty. Wow.

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Was your brother's car Hugger Orange? If so, it's close to being my all-time dream musclecar. I saw the car right about the time you said your brother sold it.

Another poster mentioned the delayed model introduction due to the strike, and that's what I had always heard. But recently, I came across something stating that the delay was actually corporate politics (and CYA) trying to cover up a huge mistake made by Fisher Body.

The story said that the car design was approved by everyone but when it came time to actually stamp out some of the severe contours of the body (I'm thinking of the tight curve around the headlight, for instance) that Fisher Body found that their calculations were off and there were either big wrinkles or torn metal when they tried to actually produce the parts. According to the story I saw, the delay was actually due to a frantic re-design and apparently caused some shortened careers at GM.

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why not put a jericos or GF5R's in them... I suspect those will be in the cars by spring time :D

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Dan--That could have been my Bro car---Will look for /post pics of it somewhere ---Also my L89 Nova would run street tires thru the mufflers air cleaner on etc.. Mid 11.60s at 114MPH--put a set of M&H xs -11 slicks on it, rejet the carb ,set the valves ,bump the timing ,take the mufflers off and run 11.18 at 119MPH---Then I put a 430 BBC chevy in it ran 10.70 at 123/124---Still have the 430 ----gonna put it in a street car for grins--Comp387

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Wow. What a hi-jack. I think you get the Oscar.

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TO FECARMAN & THE BOARD-- I apologize for my post directed towards Dan Bennet I meant to send it as a PM--Did not meant to hijack this thread at all---Again my apologies Comp 387

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FECARMAN---You seem to have some inside info on these cars/program coupla ??? all of the parts on the new CJ are they interchangeable with vehicles currently on the street or are you locked in whereas you hafta buy parts from Ford ??? I mean will the S'charger or heads ,blocks etc work with something a racer might already have or do you have to get a say A block, Set of heads, Intake,etc. to complete the package--Thanx in advance for your response

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That video is from November when Bob and Billy Glidden driove the cars at the Street Car Supernationals at LVMS. I've since seen a video (but can't find it any more) from Liberty showing them modifying the factory Mustang six speed for those cars. I have no idea how many gears it uses as I couldn't play the whole video at the time.

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By the way... after reading the long Chevy "hijack" can't a Motion car be applied for inclusion in Stock and SS? I thought the NHRA ruling on the Cobra Jets and Challengers paved the way for that.

Y'know a Motion 454 Vega with a Tunnel rammed LS7 might stand a chance against Fords! :)

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John's car has a GForce.