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Chad Rhodes 02-24-2009 09:38 PM

So what are everyone's thoughts on.......
 
the fact that a street car won Stock at the Gainesville D2 race. Personally i think its awesome, congrats Jeremy

Brien Radley 02-24-2009 09:59 PM

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Jeremy is an excellent driver and did a great job in Gainsville. He drove a 9 second Chevette for several years. Congrats to you and your Dad
Brien Radley

Michael Beard 02-25-2009 08:39 AM

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Awesome, congrats! He was also runner-up at the Sportsman National event at Immokalee. The only rounds he's lost in Stock this year have been against world champions (and in two of those he was .009 and .011!). Keep that up, and he may take that title himself!

mannymen 02-25-2009 09:56 AM

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Chad can you define street car? Are you saying daily driven street car goodyear tires, mufflers and standard 92 octane gas from the local mobile station with no other modifications from the sales lot it was purchased from??? Did he drive it home after he picked up his winnings.

mannymen 02-25-2009 10:03 AM

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Not trying to be a smart guy, but the definition of a street driven car can be different from person to person. The only reason I ask the specific question is that I want to enter my street driven go to work 2001 2WD Dodge Dakota 4 door truck filled up with 87 octane from the local Sunoco on Main street into stock at Norwalk in May. Didn't know if this could be done with an actual street car.

Alan Roehrich 02-25-2009 10:29 AM

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I've seen Jeremy drive that car on the street, change the tires, drain the gas, and run Stock with it. Fairly successfully back a year or two ago. The first time I saw it, he failed fuel check because he did not know they did not have a spec for pump gas. I think the biggest reason they were trailering it was so everyone could ride together and they wouldn't have to change tires, dump the gas, and uncap the exhaust when they got there.

Chad Rhodes 02-25-2009 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mannymen (Post 107584)
Chad can you define street car? Are you saying daily driven street car goodyear tires, mufflers and standard 92 octane gas from the local mobile station with no other modifications from the sales lot it was purchased from??? Did he drive it home after he picked up his winnings.

they change the tires, put the pump gas back in it and his dad drives it to work every day. Here is a link to a thread on corvette forum where he talks about the car http://forums.corvetteforum.com/drag...nator-win.html

The reason i posted this is that most of us see how far stock has come, when back in the 60's they really were street cars with just a few things done. I think its refreshing to see a car that is still driveable be able to compete, go rounds, and even win in Stock. Especially in D/SA not B/FS.

Mike Pearson 02-25-2009 01:42 PM

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They did tow the car to gainsville. It is a great running car. Looks more like a hot street car than a stocker as we know them. Jeremy is obviously a very good driver. If the car still has all of the street equipment on it that would make it a difficult car to go through the tear down process. Could you imagine having to pull a piston and rod out of that car. I had a 2004 corvette. You could barely find the motor from all of the wires hoses and other equipment under the hood.

RJ Sledge 02-25-2009 02:05 PM

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Chad

Since you asked. My thoughts are that its needs HP applied to it just like those stinking CJ Mustangs that are underrated by Ford and NHRA. What is this world coming to? A street car that can run 8 tenths under the index by changing tires and the fuel. Indeed!!!!

Just kidding and you can still buy me a beer at No Problem.

RJ.

Chad Rhodes 02-25-2009 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by r sledge (Post 107626)
Chad

Since you asked. My thoughts are that its needs HP applied to it just like those stinking CJ Mustangs that are underrated by Ford and NHRA. What is this world coming to? A street car that can run 8 tenths under the index by changing tires and the fuel. Indeed!!!!

Just kidding and you can still buy me a beer at No Problem.

RJ.

I hear ya RJ. Hope to see you in Belle Rose

Jeff Lee 02-25-2009 02:22 PM

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September 1994 I drove from Phoenix to Denver by myself. I think it was another #1 qualifing time. Set the A/FS record @ 13.26 in the same vehicle, cylinder head / intake tear-down. Drove the car to the motel that night & lost 1st round the next morning with a quicker than record time. Then drove the car back home. It's a 14 hour drive each way. Had a NM DPS officer in his Mustang chase after me for two miles as I was doing 85 in the rain on the way home. He wasn't happy with my "put it in passing gear" next time response....:D
Top that!
But congradulations on the win, I guess that does top a record! :o

Mike Gray 02-25-2009 02:50 PM

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I can hear some Highway Patrol official now "We need them cobra jet cop cars to keep up with what the factories are putting on the street"
(with all of the officers grinning in the background )
An easy way to produce the minimum cars required.

Craig Couris 02-25-2009 02:58 PM

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Hey Chad, I think it's great. So great in fact that I'm sizing up my CTS V for a roll bar this afternoon.

Craig Couris

Chad Rhodes 02-25-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Couris (Post 107636)
Hey Chad, I think it's great. So great in fact that I'm sizing up my CTS V for a roll bar this afternoon.

Craig Couris

new CTs-V, blower and all?

SG2221 02-25-2009 03:29 PM

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Hey Guys, Thanks for all the kind words. It was a great weekend for sure. After the Gators I will drain all the $12 a gallon VP fuel put the street tires back and drive this car on the street the rest of the year. I do tow it to the races in case something breaks, and the luxury of the RV is nice over a 3-5 day event.

I have spent alot of time listening to all you guys on how make a stocker fast by re-applying weight, rotating mass, suspension, etc. and I really appreciate how nice and helpfull everyone has been that I have met. I am truly humbled to listen to alot of you and the vast knowledge you guys have on how to squeeze every little HP and E.T. out of these cars. I really love the class for the challenges it presents and the science of how to make a certain combination work. Its alot more fun for me then my S/G car.

The fact is that I am 2-4 tenths slower in my all out mode than any other D/SA that I meet in thier bracket mode, which I found out the hard way in Bradenton 2 weeks ago when strickland showed me how a D/SA really runs first round in our heads up match. I will do my best to get out of the other D/SA guys way and just get to footbrake bracket racing, which is what I love to do.

Thanks again and I look forward to seeing everyone in Orlando.

Jeremy Preston

Chad Rhodes 02-25-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SG2221 (Post 107643)
Hey Guys, Thanks for all the kind words. It was a great weekend for sure. After the Gators I will drain all the $12 a gallon VP fuel put the street tires back and drive this car on the street the rest of the year. I do tow it to the races in case something breaks, and the luxury of the RV is nice over a 3-5 day event.

I have spent alot of time listening to all you guys on how make a stocker fast by re-applying weight, rotating mass, suspension, etc. and I really appreciate how nice and helpfull everyone has been that I have meet. I am truly humbled to listen to alot of you and the vast knowledge you guys have on how to squeeze every little HP and E.T. out of these cars. I really love the class for the challenges it presents and the science of how to make a certain combination work. Its alot more fun for me then my S/G car.

The fact is that I am 2-4 tenths slower in my all out mode than any other D/SA that I meet in thier bracket mode, which I found out the hard way in Bradenton 2 weeks ago when strickland showed me how a D/SA really runs first round in our heads up match. I will do my best to get out of the other D/SA guys way and just get to footbrake bracket racing, which is what I love to do.

Thanks again and I look forward to seeing everyone in Orlando.

Jeremy Preston
www.hpsalesflorida.com

Jeremy, I think you should keep running stock. I love what you are doing with the car. As a matter of fact dad and I are considering doing the exact same thing soon. I think it would be alot of fun and alot less work, lol

goinbroke2 02-25-2009 03:43 PM

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Excellent! I guess it proves how important the driver is eh? Good job!



Lucky you don't drive a new mustang though...that would be proof for the anti-cj crusaders!
LOL!

Stay away from heads up and hope to see you there again.

SG2221 02-25-2009 03:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 107645)
Jeremy, I think you should keep running stock. I love what you are doing with the car. As a matter of fact dad and I are considering doing the exact same thing soon. I think it would be alot of fun and alot less work, lol

"I will do my best to get out of the other D/SA guys way and just get to footbrake bracket racing, which is what I love to do."

LOL, I meant within Stock eliminator, with the exception of heads up runs it is just footbrake bracket racing. Just got to figure out a way to get a 50 MPH tailwind to go down just my lane for those heads up runs, LOL

Thanks again,

Jeremy Preston


Craig Couris 02-25-2009 04:46 PM

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Chad,

An '07 without the blower. If NHRA reduces the blown version to 425 hp, I'll have one that day.

Are you heading to Orlando?

Craig

Chad Rhodes 02-25-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Couris (Post 107655)
Chad,

An '07 without the blower. If NHRA reduces the blown version to 425 hp, I'll have one that day.

Are you heading to Orlando?

Craig

yes and no. I may be down in Orlando (job hunting), but the car isn't ready

Bob Mancuso 02-27-2009 02:36 PM

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Geez Jeremy, you and even Chad are everywhere. :D I went round by round with your dad on the cell phone. LOL. ;) Glad to see you winning AGAIN. Gators are coming real soon. You last won that in the Chevette a few years ago. Really hoping to be on the line with DAD when you win it again this time in his C5.... :cool:

Ed Wright 02-28-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 107657)
yes and no. I may be down in Orlando (job hunting), but the car isn't ready

Lost your job??

Michigan Skip 03-01-2009 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mannymen (Post 107585)
Not trying to be a smart guy, but the definition of a street driven car can be different from person to person. The only reason I ask the specific question is that I want to enter my street driven go to work 2001 2WD Dodge Dakota 4 door truck filled up with 87 octane from the local Sunoco on Main street into stock at Norwalk in May. Didn't know if this could be done with an actual street car.

Here' a quote from that link.

"Our car is a street driven 2003 C5 Corvette. It has a custom duration cam with stock 515/515 lift, a Yank 4K stahl converter, 4.10 Gears, American Racing Headers, Borla Straight Pipes, and weighing in at #3430 pounds it has run a best of 10.933 at 123.18 MPH on a 11.85 NHRA Index. This car still has A/C, heat, power seats, Windows etc. All stock race car with all Street car amenities."
Still has the AC and heat, pw/ps:)

GarysZ24 03-01-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 107594)
they change the tires, put the pump gas back in it and his dad drives it to work every day. Here is a link to a thread on corvette forum where he talks about the car http://forums.corvetteforum.com/drag...nator-win.html

The reason i posted this is that most of us see how far stock has come, when back in the 60's they really were street cars with just a few things done. I think its refreshing to see a car that is still driveable be able to compete, go rounds, and even win in Stock. Especially in D/SA not B/FS.

Hey Chad, thanks for the thread...

Although I'm happy also for what Jeremy was able to accomplish with a street legal car, I'm no less jealous than I was for the Mopar contingent of fwd (turbo)cars, that were able to run well under their indexes with minimal mods done as well (hence your BF/S referrence). I'm also glad you left DF/S out of that, because most of those cars are non-turbo'd motors that needed the stock legal mods (just like the rwd's) to be competitive. When I first started racing my Z24 in stock back in '95, I was factored to run in the BF/SA class which had an altitude corrected index of 16.44 @ 5800ft. The closest I could run to that was 17.55 (streetable). In order to get my car to run the index (or .02 better), off had to come the A/C, and PWR STR systems & their power robbing belts...also gone was my Dynamax exhaust system. Furthermore, my OEM computer had to go because it was fighting the Stock legal rebuild I had done, and no-one built a computer chip that would help me out with the factory box. The topper was having to retard my cam timing because the cam that was built for me only had .218 degrees duration (hardly a power inhancer huh???). My combo was unfairly placed in a class full of turbos, quad fours, and aluminum headed V6's (when mine was cast iron). Thank GOD for the AHFS system (and a few letters to Glendora), for finally taking (overall) 20hp off my combo, so now I can actually be competitive with my car---however it (like most stockers), is no longer street legal.

With what I've been able to do from '06 thru '08, I wish I could've also had the chance to do then (the '90's & early '00's)....the '06 Mile High Nationals...the best run I had at that race was my index + .004, which coupled with a .002 light made me a rd 3 winner against a very tough Corvette driven by Tony Hernandez). Now the only thing I need is an enhanced budget to allow me to afford to race---I've unfortunately had to sit out the two closest races to me, and probably will also the one coming up next weekend in Tucson as well. :(

Again congrats to you Jeremy, and good luck to all of you that have a budget to race with---that's a work in progress for me, and as long as "Made in the USA" seemingly stays insignificant like it is now, this sport and the lower budget racers will continue to suffer the most for it...that's my .02 worth.

Chad Rhodes 03-01-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 108129)
Lost your job??

unfortunetly yes, times are getting tight in the speed parts business

Jesse Knapp 03-02-2009 12:57 PM

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That's quite an impressive feat to accomplish. Stock has gotten so modified today, far away from the original cars. Last yr. I toyed with trying to run an index in IHRA's Pure Stock category with my totally stock 97 camaro. It has 119,000 miles (highway) on it and has been sitting in a garage for the most part the last few yrs. I had my friend Kenny rebuild the tranny, quick shift kit and all, and bumped the stall a bit in the convertor. Stall wasn't much b/c I wanted it street drivable.I added M/T street radial slicks, tuned the computer a bit and that was it. All else was/is original from GM. It ran 13.60's on a 13.10 index shifting on it's own. I understand it could use gears (has 323's now) and a performance exhaust system with headers, but I don/t know if those two things would get the car below that index. So, my opinion, an amazing accomplishment with a street car in today's stock eliminator category.


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