NHRA HAS.....
 

issued a statement encouriging sportsman racers to contact their div. director or NHRA themselves and they will be more than happy to answer all questions concerning the sportsman racer.

It seems to me that I remember a certian IHRA tech offical who was involved with the original TOP STOCK program in IHRA stating this very thing was going to happen with NHRA about 5 or 6 years ago and 99% of you stated that he didnt know what he was talking about. He did say it would happen in about 4 to 5 years so he missed it by about a year. It seems that he was VERY in tune with the "Heart Beat" of both NHRA and IHRA yet you ignored what he had to say. I read recently about him saying something about T/S and T/D classes at NHRA yet the Super class racers also gave him hell on the super site. Maybe he wasnt so stupid after all. I think I would like to hear more from him in the future.

Your certain IHRA official was stupid in the sense that he "claimed" sportsman racing would go away. Looks to me like this could ratched sportsman racing into an even higher place in the sport than what it has been in the past.
If sportsman racing is still tied to national events, and the NHRA name is marketed succesfully with the deep pockets it will now have, this thing we call sportsman racing could really get big.
So, the facts may actually prove that your "certain IHRA official" was totally wrong. He has very little wisdom to offer.

No "SMOKEY" YOU are wrong! He never said sportsman would go away. I will try to cal him this evening to get his exact words. He said it woud be divided into a Pro show and a series of Sportsman shows for each division. Get your facts straight. You are like a lot on here and say things that are not true or wrong to stir up trouble. I have copies of what was on this forum during that time buried around here someplace and will quote word for word what was said if I cant track him down. That was an important subject forr several of us back then.

>> Looks to me like this could ratched sportsman racing into an even higher place in the sport [...] this thing we call sportsman racing could really get big.

Explain? Haven't read anything concrete to date regarding that. Have any specific ideas on what the goals are are and how they will accomplish them?


Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

Like I said in another thread, part of the agreement calls for NHRA to pay NHRA Pro $800,000 per year for the inclusion of Sportsman racing at national events, so the situation isn't really going to change much in that regard. However, the agreement only has a life of 25 years, so the "sky is falling" theorists have 25 years to get ready for the impact.

- Larry

Larry is the deal carved in stone? Who says NHRA will continue to pay the 800'g and where do you think NHRA will get the money. I don't know any of these answers and I'm not sure any one else does either. I think we should have an open forum with the new buyers.

Ed,

NHRA .org will have a reduced amount of dollars to run the operation without all of the cash from the pros. Tom Compton has repeatedly said that NHRA has to subsidize the Sportsman racers.

So how long do you think NHRA.org will operate before they say they are out of dough?

TOM COMPTON IS A REPEATED LIAR TOO.
I AM SURE SOME OF THAT MONEY WILL HELP FUND IS ***** AND BOOZE HABIT.

Ed,
The 100 mil is already spent, that is, if they get it.

Is this the same Ed that has bashed IHRA in the past?


Lee Norton
Performance Punch Embroidery Digitizing
Slowtime Motorsports
I/PS '02 Firebird 231 V6

If I had that money it surely would pay for MY whores and booze. Geez...what's the problem.

"The future isn't what it used to be."

I would think that the NHRA Pro's would be contracting the NHRA sportsman to enhance their show. Therefore, they should be paying the sportman the $800,000 per year!

Mike Coates

Sorry Mike,
It works the other way around so there will be a profit shown & the sportsmen will pay for the big profit. Don't make a mistake & think They havent already figured out how to squeeze it out of us. This is just a slick way to cover the profit the "Not for profit guys" make. I'll go out on a limb here & predict that their will be a new way for the sportsman racer to enter the NHRA Pro races. We will probably have to earn performance points, along with paying more, & the number allowed to attend will be cut. Sportsmen will only be there for filler, similar to the way it is now. I'm very confidant that there will be quite a few "NHRA IS THE WAY" (die hard) racers that will follow along like loyal sheep. It will be sold to us so well that we just won't be able to help it.

Adger Smith

Sudsidize the sportman what the F is he talking about .

Adger Smith, your negative attitide shows that you are a disgruntled old drag racer who in fact doesn't even race NHRA. So don't talk your **** about "NHRA IS THE WAY" racers that you can't even compete with.
It's not are fault that you just aint good enough anymore. Stay home and bitch to someone who cares.

YEAH! Obviously written by somebody (?) who knows what he's talking about.

Guess all those records and #1 Qualifiers are for naught, Adger.

Someone attacking Adger's credibility is laughable - regardless of whether or not you agree with his opinion.



Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

Smokey?? whoever,
I love you too.
OH! Adger (face slap, face slap) now look what you have done.
I've gone and told a guy with no name I love him...... oh.. me....!!!


Adger Smith

Not getting into the discussion...but what does a name have to do with anything? I am going to post what I feel whether I use my birth name or another name alot of people know me by!!!

For nothing is correct Beard ! Lets not forget these were IHRA accomplishments.
If Mr. Adger is going to make off handed comments about NHRA racers he needs to come see how good he really is....or isn't. I think we know the answer.

Smokey,
I hate to be the one to inform you that you need to do a little checking around & do a little research about my accomplishments & what they are & what I stand for.
You might need to re read my post & look at how I placed my self in that group of NHRA racers. Why could that be? Because I'm one. I am only calling it as I see it. It's a free world you have the right to say what yo want. but when you say something about me & try to pass it off as a fact, Then you had better get your facts right. And on this one you are way off base.

Adger Smith

>> For nothing is correct Beard ! Lets not forget these were IHRA accomplishments.

-=yawn=- You used to almost sound like you knew what you were talking about.

Lessee... Adger Smith, #1 Qualifer at Rusk, Noble, Shreveport, and had set a record at Montgomery.

And Smokey's credentials are... -=yawn=- Yeah, pretty much. Wanna-be heckler.

I don't have a stance on Adger's opinions at this time, but for somebody(?) to try to tackle his racing background instead of his opinions is both laughable and pointless.

For myself, I'll take the wait and see stance at this point... Doesn't effect me directly.


Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

Question for Smokey.......who must have smoke in his eyes and can not read the Dragster. When has your picture been in the digger?? We see much smoke in the digger but not yours and never your face. I have seen Adger Smith's picture in the digger in the last 12 months along with his RecordS and # 1 or 2 at Div. races and National races. Also he knows more about running a drag strip than you ever will, seems he has owned a Few. Maybe you should listen when someone you dont know speaks before you put your foot in your mouth.

bp133 Bob Pagano

Smokey knows alot more about NHRA than you think boys.

Pls advise what issue(s) of the "digger" these pics are in.

Fred I will do that, first chance I get . The picture I believe it was at a Div. 4 race at Rusk, TX last year and Mr. Smith was holding the # 1 award check in his hand. Most of last year and the year before he held the SS/BX and DS records NHRA , once both at the same time. He has not run this season as his health and work at his shop have kept him from going but he will return and reset his records. You can count on it.
PS I am speaking about NHRA, this dose not count any of his IHRA racing which are about the same.

bp133 Bob Pagano

>> Smokey knows alot more about NHRA than you think boys.

That's why I expected some intelligent input from him... Maybe we can move past the playground BS and talk about how this will help Sportsman racers -- something concrete? I think that's all anyone's looking for. I understand that it's early and the deal isn't even done yet, but if someone is going to state 'what' it's going to accomplish, people are also interested in the 'how's and 'why's.


Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

Agder, your accomplishments are not that impressive and you do not stand for much when you make negative statements about current NHRA racers. I was at Rusk last year and there was no Adger Smith running.
Like I said, you are an old disgruntled racer that is not racing so he has no right to dis-respect NHRA racers that are out there running.
Michael Beard, I agree with you, but it is hard to sit by and listen to pesamistic fools such as Smith that got no idea of the facts.

Not sure whether to yawn or laugh...

Try again...
<u>http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsman_news.asp?articleid=13348&zoneid=85</u>

But congratulations on having made it to a race track.



Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

...and oh by the way... Sportsman racers all dare have opinions, regardless of whether or not they set records, qualify number one, win races, or even win rounds. There are far more racers who don't have these 'accomplishments' on their resumes than do -- but they ALL make up sportsman racing.

Where do you fit in?


Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

Smokey,
For someone that claims to know so much I'm surprised that you didn't look at the qualifying sheets when you were at Rusk. So YOU and the rest of this board can see you are uninformed & wrong about not seeing me at Rusk try (cut & paste) this link.
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2006#indextop
I don't mean to be one to toot my horn, but I also reset that NHRA National Record at that D-4 event, Under adverse conditions! I suffered 2 broken ribs in a fall while unloading my car at that event.
By your tone I have obviously written something you took as an insult. I ask you to re read that post & be open-minded. You see I pointed my finger at myself as well as all the other loyal NHRA Sportsmen racers. I'm sorry if you (or anyone else) took what ever you read as an insult. I could take the things you are saying about me as an insult, but you have the right to say what you want. I am just going to consider you as un-informed and forgive you for making those comments. I welcome a personal visit from you at any time. Maybe you could reconsider your opinion of me.
My posts on here are not intended to cause any hard feelings. I am not trying to be a problem for Len, NHRA or anyone. I agree, my 2 posts Sat night were a little terse & not my usual self. I have re read my posts several times & I'm not going to make any excuses, Like too much dinner wine. I intended my posts to be constructive & get racers motivated to express what should be improved for sportsmen racers while all this change is taking place. It looks like there have been some very good posts about improvements. In closing I will say I've already said too much & I will not be making posts on this forum or any other when I can't articulate correctly.
Just remember Len is the sportsmen racers friend. At this moment in time "Len can do more to shape the future of Sportsman racing than anyone else."


Adger Smith
NHRA SS # 4780
IHRA SS # 4780
Shop # 903-794-7223
adgersperf@aol.com
www.adgersperf.com

And to think Mr.Smith comes all the way from Alaska to race in D4......lol............as per NHRA info.Best to you sir.

SUPER STOCK
1) J. Adger Smith, Texarkana, Ark., '86 Camaro, SS/CX, 10.267 seconds, -1.133 (under
index)
2) James Caro, Houma, La., '03 Stratus, GT/CA, 9.690, -1.010
3) Tony Cowell, Weatherford, Texas, '81 Camaro, GT/JA, 10.667, -0.933
4) Byron Latino, Donaldsonville, La., '90 Pontiac, SS/DM, 9.303, -0.897
5) Ken Howell, Baytown, Texas, '82 Firebird, GT/D, 9.754, -0.896
6) Korey Mawhee, Frisco, Texas, '95 Achieva, GT/DA, 9.905, -0.895
7) Jerry Emmons, Pasadena, Texas, '91 Cutlass, GT/EA, 10.073, -0.877
8) Jerry Caro, Houma, La., '68 Dart, SS/AH, 8.950, -0.850
9) John Clegg, Victoria, Texas, '73 Firebird, SS/AM, 8.618, -0.832
10) Gary Emmons, Friendswood, Texas, '96 Firebird, SS/JA, 10.514, -0.786

This is from the link that Mike posted. I don't know Adger, nor have I ever met him. But, in the credibility war, I think Adger is winning...

Jason Oldfield
S/G & S/ST 1838

I thought Adger ran one of those "comp elmiinator" combos in SS. See why he was #1 qualifier.

Oh! You're right, let's keep talking about Adger instead of the future of NHRA. Glad y'all got your priorities straight.

In my opinion - lower entry fees (i.e., discard insurance surcharge, oildown fines), lower ticket prices at LODRS events to make it affordable for familes and MARKET the whole package (as some tracks have already done with success)



Michael Beard
<u>Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing</u>
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
H - I - J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum

You are so right about that Mr Beard, but it'll never happen. They will never lower any cost to th racer. They have more than enough and wanna weed out us poor folk... Funny even with my good job for the past year and a half, I'm still poor... Whats up with that George W? Jennifer Granholm?

Easy there Smokey...jeez, I can't hardly stand it when a MAN? makes a statement but isn't capable of signing his John Henry to it. It certainly makes me question his integrity. Maybe it's just my redneck Texas raising but I was taught if you make a stand you had better be able to sign your name to it. When you shake a person's hand you must look him or her in the eye and it must be firm. What happened to that quality of thinking??
You know Smokey I'm simply a racer's girlfriend who doesn't know beans about racing but I do know Adger and quite simply if he wasn't sooooo busy working on other racers' engines and such he would probably have time to go down the track. Adger does work on Kevin's engines and I think Kevin's wins are contributed by the work that Adger does. So, the next time you want to hide behind those "smokey glasses" do your homework on the man you're insulting. Adger is a good friend to Kevin and I so I felt the need to throw in my two cents for whatever it's worth.

Now, have a nice day "gents" and for God's sake get back to the issue at hand. I have learned one or two things about racing from the forum but the one bad thing about this forum is some of you don't play fair and it seems to be the ones who won't sign his/her real name.

Sincerely,
Sherrie Maloney

Adger, my apologies to you. I stand corrected on your current racing status. I thought you were a division 5 racer and didn't see your name at any of their events and I did not notice you at Rusk.
While I may not agree with Adger's negative comments about his fellow NHRA racers, at least he is one.
You, Michael Beard, on the other hand are a sand lot racer (read ihra).
If you do not race NHRA, your opinions on what the NHRA should do are meaningless. Your opinions need to be directed towards your pals at IHRA which have done NOTHING and will do nothing for sportsman racing since Mr. Bader jumped ship. Go ask the alcohol funny car racers how they got hosed by your IHRA punk sanctioning body this year. IHRA's focus....night of fire jets and circus side show ****. Funny how you never find fault with the IHRA which has only managed to shrink sportsman racing. By the way....how exactly was IHRA sportsman racing "enhanced" when its entire operation was sold to clear channel? You need to worry about the punk sanctioning body you race with before you bitch about the NHRA.
Ms. Maloney, my anonymity is my privilege as accepted by the rules of this website. Your "red neck" raising, as you say, and your way of thinking are your privilege and have no bearing on anything beyond your own personal opinion.

You're absoluted correct Mr. Smokey my post was exactly that...my personal opinion but you don't see me having to apologize for insulting a racer without doing my homework first. Your post was just like mine...a personal opinion that I found insulting and wrong concerning a friend so I called you on it! You're also correct when you stated that your anonymity is accepted by this website but that doesn't mean it's accepted by the majority on here. I was taught that the most valuable thing a person has is his or her name and once it's tarnished there's absolutely nothing you can do.

I will continue to stand up for the racers I personally know when a "no namer" tarnishes another racer's name. I read where your employment is motorsports marketing and if that is true then you of all people know the aggravation and damage that can be done by writing or speaking the ill truth of someone else. By the way, I am curious what kind of person would be more proud of the work he or her is involved in than his or her own name. Personally, (and yes, it is just my personal opinion and therefore I will not charge you a fee for it) I'm more likely to be prouder of my name than my flight attendant career.

Have a good day!
Sherrie