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Mike Delahanty 03-17-2009 07:40 PM

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This is cool. Check out this 56 Chevy Junior Stocker recreation on EBAY - Item number 260378630632

Of course - you have to be over 55 to remember and appreciate these "antique" race cars.

Bob Bender 03-17-2009 08:26 PM

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TELLING YOUR AGE MIKE...........:eek:

Chuck Norton 03-17-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Delahanty (Post 110481)
This is cool. Check out this 56 Chevy Junior Stocker recreation on EBAY - Item number 260378630632

Of course - you have to be over 55 to remember and appreciate these "antique" race cars.

I'm not sure that's a "re-creation." I think that may be a survivor. I need to do some research but that looks like the real thing that's been trapped in a time warp for 40 years.

c

bill dedman 03-17-2009 11:20 PM

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All I get when I past that number (260378630632) into the ebay search engine is an ad for a '56 SBC dual quad intake manifold.

Did they sell the car already?

Chuck Norton 03-17-2009 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 110515)
All I get when I past that number (260378630632) into the ebay search engine is an ad for a '56 SBC dual quad intake manifold.

Did they sell the car already?


Bill, that's not the right number. Take a look at (180335830797). The car is still on the market.

c

bill dedman 03-18-2009 12:43 AM

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Thanks, Chuck. Dunno where that other number came from...

I think you'd have to examine that car first-hand to detemine its history as regards whether it's a re-creation or a survivor, and even that wouldn't be easy.

I'm not sure it matters... The 4-speed and Olds rear give us a clue that it wasn't a Stocker all its life, but everything else looks pretty legit.


Bill

Jimmy R Parker 03-18-2009 04:45 AM

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Forrest Shropshire's name is on the side of this car, he was a racer from Cartersville, Georgia that passed away a few years ago. He had a large collection of fifties Chevies and I think most were sold at auction. He ran stock eliminator in the 60's and 70's and was mainly known for his "Milk Crate"'56 225HP wagon. Forrest was very competitive and he and Bruce Wilkinson had the fastest wagons in this part of the country. In later years he ran alot of Super Chevy events and also competed at Bonneville with a '57 Vette. Forrest was a great guy and if I remember correctly he and Linda Vaughn were from the same area and knew each other well.

Jimmy

FrankChastain 03-18-2009 05:39 AM

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Jimmy, if im not mistaken his place is off 411 going to interstate 75 coming from Rome, GA. I go that way to Atlanta. There are still a few rusty cars sitting there when we went by Friday going to Atlanta. Probably been sitting there for a while. Reason I noticed this place is one thing the cars, but he took a house next to his and made a shop in the basement...Never stop to meet the guy, but have been by there for a lot of years...Jimmy, wonder, is this the same guy you are talking about?

Frank


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Originally Posted by Jimmy R Parker (Post 110526)
Forrest Shropshire's name is on the side of this car, he was a racer from Cartersville, Georgia that passed away a few years ago. He had a large collection of fifties Chevies and I think most were sold at auction. He ran stock eliminator in the 60's and 70's and was mainly known for his "Milk Crate"'56 225HP wagon. Forrest was very competitive and he and Bruce Wilkinson had the fastest wagons in this part of the country. In later years he ran alot of Super Chevy events and also competed at Bonneville with a '57 Vette. Forrest was a great guy and if I remember correctly he and Linda Vaughn were from the same area and knew each other well.

Jimmy


Chuck Norton 03-18-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 110520)
I think you'd have to examine that car first-hand to detemine its history as regards whether it's a re-creation or a survivor, and even that wouldn't be easy.

I'm not sure it matters... The 4-speed and Olds rear give us a clue that it wasn't a Stocker all its life, but everything else looks pretty legit.

I would think that a thorough inspection would be essential for someone who intended to bid on this car. Jimmy, I'm glad that the name held meaning for someone. I thought it sounded familiar but I couldn't place it from this part of the country.

There are a couple of things that ring true about the car, based on the pictures. That engine combination wasn't just put together for the show circuit last week. I remember the style of those valve covers (They're probably 40+ years old) and they were originally polished, the generator has been swapped out for an alternator, the battery still located on the firewall, the rusty headers, the vintage interior, and the rest. That would have been a pretty sporty stocker back in the mid sixties. As far as the "Olds" rear end is concerned, over the last twenty years or so, I've noticed that a lot of the younger guys have difficulty distinguishing between '50's Olds/Pontiac housing and an original 50's Chevy. The one thing that doesn't ring true is the 4-speed, that is, if it is really a 4-speed and not a Hurst shifter on a 3-speed box. There are relatively few people who sell this kind of stuff on E-bay who have a clear understanding of what they're peddling.

I would put the possibility of this being a real Junior Stocker at something better than 50-50.

c

ss wannabee 03-18-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Norton (Post 110548)
I would think that a thorough inspection would be essential for someone who intended to bid on this car. Jimmy, I'm glad that the name held meaning for someone. I thought it sounded familiar but I couldn't place it from this part of the country.

There are a couple of things that ring true about the car, based on the pictures. That engine combination wasn't just put together for the show circuit last week. I remember the style of those valve covers (They're probably 40+ years old) and they were originally polished, the generator has been swapped out for an alternator, the battery still located on the firewall, the rusty headers, the vintage interior, and the rest. That would have been a pretty sporty stocker back in the mid sixties. As far as the "Olds" rear end is concerned, over the last twenty years or so, I've noticed that a lot of the younger guys have difficulty distinguishing between '50's Olds/Pontiac housing and an original 50's Chevy. The one thing that doesn't ring true is the 4-speed, that is, if it is really a 4-speed and not a Hurst shifter on a 3-speed box. There are relatively few people who sell this kind of stuff on E-bay who have a clear understanding of what they're peddling.

I would put the possibility of this being a real Junior Stocker at something better than 50-50.

c

A friend of mine had stored away some Alex Jarrell 3-speeds left over from the old days.....I wonder if he still has 'em?

55 Chevy 03-18-2009 09:40 AM

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If one looks closely it appears that the firewall has been cut up giving me the impression it once had a big block in it.

Chuck Norton 03-18-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 55 Chevy (Post 110557)
If one looks closely it appears that the firewall has been cut up giving me the impression it once had a big block in it.

Either that or a tunnel ram on the small block. Tunnel ram manifolds were pretty common on Super Stock versions of that combination after Junior Stock was pushed into Super Stock.

c

Daniel Ashlock 03-20-2009 10:54 PM

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for some good old school junior stock photos try this link... start going back through the pages i think it gets pretty good
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=201085

Ed Wright 03-23-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Norton (Post 110558)
Either that or a tunnel ram on the small block. Tunnel ram manifolds were pretty common on Super Stock versions of that combination after Junior Stock was pushed into Super Stock.

c


When we had to move to Super Stock, I got an Edelbrock tunnel ram, and the "mini-plenum: Edelbrock sent to Carroll Caudle for testing. It was the only thing I knew of that would fit under the hood. Carroll was fast enough at that time he wasn't interested in changing his manifold top. I think he had filled his old one with resin and was happy with it like that. One Div 4 pro Stock racer i won't name called Edelbrock raising heck wanting to know why "that kid with a Super Stock '56 Chevy had the manifold top he wanted but was told they weren't available yet?" Edelbrock called Carroll, asking if that was his plenum. :D

X-TECH MAN 03-23-2009 10:50 AM

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Ed....the pictures of your old car on that site looked GREAT. I do believe that was the best time in drag racings history.

Ed Wright 03-23-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 111138)
Ed....the pictures of your old car on that site looked GREAT. I do believe that was the best time in drag racings history.


That's the only race car I ever had that made money. Purses were about what they are now, but parts, fuel, hotels, entrys, etc, was all much cheaper then.

X-TECH MAN 03-23-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 111173)
That's the only race car I ever had that made money. Purses were about what they are now, but parts, fuel, hotels, entrys, etc, was all much cheaper then.

Sad isnt it ! The last NHRA National event I entered was the Gatornationals in 78 and it was $40 (Forty) for a 68 Camaro SS/IA. The engine cost me right at $6000 total from the Lingenfelter carb to one of his "Bread Box" oil pans. Ran 10.90's at that time. The Bowling Green Sports Nationals was the same entry fee.

Ed Wright 03-23-2009 04:50 PM

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Used to be no break-out in the finals at national events, but you set a new record if you ran under. If you had to kill your record (not bogus-soft indexes) in the final, you won enough money to build another car. You could have a nice car for $10,000. None of mine cost near that. Good ol' Bob Rice emailed me a National Dragster record page he had scanned from the last year of Stock Eliminator (everybody called it Jr Stock), before we had to move to Super Stock. I don't know where Bob find the things he does. I wish I had kept things like that. Last time Jeanie looked, she could not find any of my national record certificates. Carroll Caudle used to "file" his on one of those spikes on his wife's desk, He had quite a stack of them with holes poked in the middle. I always thought to my self "I won't mutilate mine like that", now we can't even find them. About all the proof I have now of ever setting one is the record page Bob scanned and emailed to me. Had it at 13.10 when they killed off Stock. The Ronca Brothers (from Div 1 I believe) had the MPH record a long time. I never could run the MPH they did. Sonny Bryant set the ET record in that (Stock) class a couple of times before he built his Pro Stocker. Sonny was a very good racer. Great guy too. I set it twice after moving to SS, second time Jimmie Bridges or one of his cohorts set it lower the same weekend with a 220 HP Malibu. I tore it down for nothing.

I've never forgiven those guys for that. :D

bill dedman 03-23-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 111177)
Sad isnt it ! The last NHRA National event I entered was the Gatornationals in 78 and it was $40 (Forty) for a 68 Camaro SS/IA. The engine cost me right at $6000 total from the Lingenfelter carb to one of his "Bread Box" oil pans. Ran 10.90's at that time. The Bowling Green Sports Nationals was the same entry fee.

$6,000.00 in 1978 is equal to $19,887.00 in 2008.
$40.00 in 1978 is equal to $132.58 in 2008.


NHRA isn't looking too good in this one...

That's according to the online cost-of-living calculator I use; dunno how accurate it is......


Bill

ss3011 03-23-2009 04:56 PM

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Car must have sold. The auction has been pulled.

X-TECH MAN 03-23-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 111182)
$6,000.00 in 1978 is equal to $19,887.00 in 2008.
$40.00 in 1978 is equal to $132.58 in 2008.


NHRA isn't looking too good in this one...

That's according to the online cost-of-living calculator I use; dunno how accurate it is......


Bill

OUCH ! It didnt seem so bad back in 78. That was with UN-Ported heads, BRC pistons with .017 top rings. Comp cam roller, etc.


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