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Rick Bailey 04-08-2009 05:43 PM

Cha-Ching........$150.00 Please
 
In an un-confirmed rumor.........as of tomorrow the chassis cert. fee will be a cool $150.00


God Bless the Sportsman Racer, we'll save NHRA. lol



Rick

SG1809 04-08-2009 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Bailey (Post 113884)
In an un-confirmed rumor.........as of tomorrow the chassis cert. fee will be a cool $150.00


God Bless the Sportsman Racer, we'll save NHRA. lol



Rick

So the fee will be doubled in these hard times? That's great

BKSG1198 04-08-2009 06:37 PM

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NHRA announces changes to competition fees
Wednesday, April 08, 2009
Effective immediately, NHRA is increasing all competition fees, including license, permanent numbers, and chassis inspection. The new fees for these services are reflected in the forms available online at www.nhra.com/competition/forms.aspx.

NHRA has not raised fees in more than a decade, and, given the current economic environment, NHRA needs to adjust fees to help offset some of the increased costs for these services. In addition, and at national events, NHRA will increase the insurance surcharge.

It should be noted that these fees, even as increased, do not cover the costs for sportsman programs. NHRA will continue to subsidize costs to provide these programs. NHRA remains committed to sportsman racing, and these increases will assist us in being able to continue to provide premier racing programs at the national, divisional, and local level.


AND THE HITS JUST KEEP ON COMING!!!!!

Carl Juliano 04-08-2009 09:03 PM

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What a RIP!

SSTHottie1236 04-09-2009 06:25 AM

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I love that they didn't give any warning. Isn't it usually customary in business to give a warning on an increase? I just saw the increased the price of the new Camaro but gave a week notice (may have even gotten a few more sales that week from people on the fence). If I would have know that I would have found a way to get the car to Maple Grove when they were certing last month. Thanks guys for making it even tougher for us all.

BKSG1198 04-09-2009 07:01 AM

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This is what I love.....

NHRA has not raised fees in more than a decade, and, given the current economic environment, NHRA needs to adjust fees to help offset some of the increased costs for these services. In addition, and at national events, NHRA will increase the insurance surcharge.


I GUESS WE ARE ALL PAYING FOR THAT NEW BMW THAT MR. COMPTON BOUGHT.....

EVENTUALLY NHRA WILL FIGURE OUT THAT THE SPORTSMAN RACER IS THE BACKBONE OF THE ASSOCIATION AND WHEN MORE AND MORE RACERS START GOING BRACKET RACING AND RUNNING OTHER ASSOCIATIONS (IHRA, EAST COAST S/SS, MASGA) IT WILL BE TOO LATE TO GET THEM BACK BECAUSE THESE ARE ASSOCIATIONS THAT TREAT RACERS AS THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AND DON'T HIKE PRICES UP WHEN THE ECONOMY IS ALREADY IN THE TOILET. I MEAN ATLANTA IS LESS THEN 2 WEEKS AWAY AND THERE IS 55 S/G CARS ENTERED, ONLY 1 D-1 CAR WHICH USUALLY DRAWS 10-15 CARS, AND BRISTOL WHICH A LOT OF D-1 S/G CARS GO TO ONLY HAS 8 CARS ENTERED....

Bob Phillips 04-09-2009 07:30 AM

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Thing is you still need chassis cert to race at tracks so it won't hurt them a bit. They did raise national event fees before as they dropped the free crew member of $75.00 i'm lucky as i just recieved my new licence last week.
Bob Phillips

Lynn Hoosigian 04-09-2009 08:04 AM

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Well, due to events in our life, we're not racing much this year. We'll be able to take advantage of the discount offered to the spectators!!!!
Not sure if that is good or bad.

BKSG1198 04-09-2009 08:17 AM

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My Girl Lynn always putting a positive spin on things...haha. I think a lot of Sportsman racers will be enjoying the discounts offered to spectators because they can't afford to put gas in their race cars or get there cars through cert.

SSTHottie1236 04-09-2009 08:28 AM

Re: Cha-Ching........$150.00 Please
 
With the "enhanced" sportsman schedule still screwing some of us and my dad not being able to run SG at Englishtown, I'm seriously considering skipping that weekend and just running the Keystone's in SG as my National Event for the year...I actually did better in SG last year than SST anyway. Plus, that's three vacation days I can save. So how much is it with the increased Insurance Fee now to run a National Event?
(Eh, we'll see how we do in AC tomorrow night :P )

Carl Juliano 04-09-2009 02:37 PM

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We wont even consider National events at this point, the expense is ridiculous, almost need a week off to attend, and if you are not chasing "World Points" (which we are not) it does not help your division points. So for us it makes no sense, and the "novelty" of being at a National has worn off a long time ago.

R&S Motorsports 04-09-2009 03:56 PM

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Just Curious do all of these fee increases apply to the "PRO" racers? Or does the sportsman racer only have to take it up the shorts!

Tom Goldman 04-09-2009 04:46 PM

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The other insult ,besides the cert fee increase ,is as I was told, the chassis inspectors are being paid less per cert than in the past.......Nhra has no regard for whom it screws! ......Tom

Bryan Gillespie 04-10-2009 08:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by R&S Motorsports (Post 114146)
Just Curious do all of these fee increases apply to the "PRO" racers? Or does the sportsman racer only have to take it up the shorts!

They get in 4 free if they pre enter

Tim Charlet 04-10-2009 09:38 AM

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[quote=BKSG1198;113999]

I GUESS WE ARE ALL PAYING FOR THAT NEW BMW THAT MR. COMPTON BOUGHT.....

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Well after poor Tom took that 10% pay cut from his NHRA President Salary of $545,000- and his NHRA Board of Directors Salary of $250,000 the poor boy could not afford the Bentley he bought....Cut the poor guy some slack!:rolleyes:

R Bailey 66 Mustang 04-10-2009 09:46 AM

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Lucky NHRA, digging into our pockets again. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it. Our car runs 8.80's so we are due for an inspection next week plus Rick just got his physical on Wednesday so dig into our pockets a little farther for the increase in license fees. But it will not stop us from going to the track. My family has had a rough year so far, so we are ready to get back out and race with our friends. My dad took a nasty fall in January and is now confined to a wheel chair and we had to put our 17 year old cocker spaniel, Clyde down in February. So this distraction of the smell of fuel and the noise might help us all.

Take care guys. See you in a couple weeks, I hope.

Ruthie Bailey

TBR151J 04-10-2009 09:51 AM

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Aww c'mon guys...we all know his DUI court case is coming up and he can't pay the lawyers fees!

Dad and I talked about this and I feel bad for the chassis cert guys who maybe got a little extra for taking time out of their schedule. Not anymore...and as for national and divisional events, the words "been there, done that" come to mind. I am happier (and coming home with more money in my pocket, and not only from winnings!) running my Nova in Street and Heavy and the dragster occasionally in Super...

Thanks to these "economic times" I am having more fun that I have had in the past...go figure!

Frankie Cicerale
Tax Bracket Racing
Piscataway, NJ
SC 151J
SG 151J
SST 151J
Stock 1510
www.taxbracketracing.com

luckydog 04-10-2009 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 113999)
EVENTUALLY NHRA WILL FIGURE OUT THAT THE SPORTSMAN RACER IS THE BACKBONE OF THE ASSOCIATION

No they won't cause ya'll just keep on goin!! I really feel bad for the guys on the west coast!! As I stated in another forum, I'm done with them!! Hey Rick, the fuel smells just as good at IHRA events and they are just as loud! Alot friendlier too!!!!!! I don't get it

IHRA and DAMN Proud of it!!!

R&S Motorsports 04-10-2009 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by luckydog (Post 114354)
No they won't cause ya'll just keep on goin!! I really feel bad for the guys on the west coast!! As I stated in another forum, I'm done with them!! Hey Rick, the fuel smells just as good at IHRA events and they are just as loud! Alot friendlier too!!!!!! I don't get it

Please refer to at least someone still cares thread!!!! :)
In fact if my local track waasnt NHRA I wouldnt even Tag my cars NHRA nor would I have a NHRA License.

SG1809 04-10-2009 04:54 PM

Re: Cha-Ching........$150.00 Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Juliano (Post 114128)
We wont even consider National events at this point, the expense is ridiculous, almost need a week off to attend, and if you are not chasing "World Points" (which we are not) it does not help your division points. So for us it makes no sense, and the "novelty" of being at a National has worn off a long time ago.

Carl,

Remember when we were hangin out and Dad & I both said " it ain't as much fun as it used to be" Well here are some more reasons why.

Regards to all,

Pat I.

Michael Pliska 04-11-2009 10:02 AM

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As mentioned above, this sucks even more that they gave no notice about this. I could have had my chassis recertified at any time, but was waiting until I was closer to having the car on the track (having paid for 2 certs over the last several years which expired before the car ever saw the outside of the trailer). I was planning to get mine recertified next week. I think I'm just going to bracket race my S/G car, and keep it in the 10's and below 135 mph (and skip the recertification). I've got my license renewal and NHRA membership renewal coming up, so it all adds up to a pretty big amount (especially given that I'm at 60% of my normal salary). I wish I still lived in North Carolina, where I wouldn't be hostage to NHRA...

Carl Juliano 04-11-2009 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SG1809 (Post 114377)
Carl,

Remember when we were hangin out and Dad & I both said " it ain't as much fun as it used to be" Well here are some more reasons why.

Regards to all,

Pat I.

Yes, Pat I remember, all the nonsense mentioned above makes the Nationals more of a headache than an enjoyable event. We dont miss them. We'll stick to the division and open series, I might even try an IHRA double race weekend to see how that is. We are skipping the Va. race, I cant justify a 9hr ride for a D1 race. I'd rather go 4.5 hrs to IHRA Skyview Drags 1/8, and run 2 div in 1 weekend, or go to Epping 5.5hrs and do the same. If it wasnt for an engine issue, I'd be going to MIR for a double dip next weekend.

BKSG1198 04-11-2009 09:27 PM

Re: Cha-Ching........$150.00 Please
 
Originally Posted by BKSG1198
EVENTUALLY NHRA WILL FIGURE OUT THAT THE SPORTSMAN RACER IS THE BACKBONE OF THE ASSOCIATION

No they won't cause ya'll just keep on goin!! I really feel bad for the guys on the west coast!! As I stated in another forum, I'm done with them!! Hey Rick, the fuel smells just as good at IHRA events and they are just as loud! Alot friendlier too!!!!!! I don't get it

IHRA and DAMN Proud of it!!!

Hey D,
Hate to say it, no we won't. We have a great little S/G association that runs 5 weekends out of the year, you get 32 cars it pays 1,000.00 to win per day, we have a great BBQ on Sat. night and everyone gets along. I'm going to run Pinks Arm Drop, and the President Cup Nationals at Budds Creek and focus more on Bracket racing. I may attend the Atco, MG or Cecil D-1 races but only because they are close by. If IHRA had more tracks around this area we would be there in a heart beat and say screw the NHRA races.

Hey Carl,
As I said before you guys ever want to come down and try MASGA with the Studabaker just PM me and I'll give you all the info. Just ask a few people who have run it (Pat, Tom Goldman, Iggie, Myself) It's a great association and you have lots of fun and it's layed back.

Rob K

mannymen 04-11-2009 10:12 PM

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Rumor has it that 10.00 to 10.99 will also need a cert and a license in the upcoming future. This is not true, but DON'T put it past the NHRA.

sg5492 04-12-2009 09:23 AM

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Well it is true, I pull my car to the track for a chassis re-cert yesterday and it cost $150.00 I wounder how much it is if they come to you to do a chassis cert?

voltdr 04-12-2009 09:56 AM

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When they talked about about the Insurance increase not paying for the sportsman portion, I note that we only have to pay the ins. surcharge a when the Fuel Cars are there. We don't pay ins. at the Sportsnationals. So its not a sportsman issue. Maybe the problem is with the Pro cars.
Maybe the reason everyone gets out of their seats after the fuel cars run is because they are tired of watching the clean up trucks go up and down the track.

slow dragster 04-12-2009 06:38 PM

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I have asked this question several times from NHRA officials and have never received an answer. What does the insurance cover? I have auto insurance and I know my coverage. Homeowners and I know my coverage. Why can't we get an answer? Tell me why I am paying it and I might feel better about shelling it out, probably not! In my opinion it is to cover the pro catagory not the sportsman.

T Hall 04-12-2009 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slow dragster (Post 114854)
I have asked this question several times from NHRA officials and have never received an answer. What does the insurance cover? I have auto insurance and I know my coverage. Homeowners and I know my coverage. Why can't we get an answer? Tell me why I am paying it and I might feel better about shelling it out, probably not! In my opinion it is to cover the pro catagory not the sportsman.

This would be a great topic for John Debartimalao ( sorry John if I miss spelled your name) in Drag Racer mag. Maybe he is reading this and could look into it,

RjmPro 04-14-2009 07:37 PM

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Hey Folks

Dont usally say much in this forum, I just thought I would put in my thoughts
I liked the comment about no Sports Nationals Insurance surcharge so that got me digging in my paper work to see if we can figure out what we are really paying for.

In 2008 The Pro teams needed these minimuns and others to compete
Comprehensive general liability 2mil general aggregate 1mil each occurance
1 mil products and completed operations liability
1mil personal and advertising injury
Auto liability
500k hired/nonowned
500k owned auto liability
Employers liability
1mil injury by accident
1 mil injury by diease each employee

Looks pretty heavy to me

Not being real knowlegeable about insurance, I guess the teams insurance always is primary in event something happens, NHRA kicks in after that.

So we as competitors all sign the waviers at the gate, like any other race track we race at, and have the same insurance all the time.

My only thought is what group of people dont sign a wavier when they come to see the races?

jim1761 04-15-2009 07:34 AM

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NHRA = Government
Racer = Middleclass
They both do what ever they want with no regards to the people.
Just bend over cause it's coming


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