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House of Darts 04-29-2009 11:03 PM

Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Any thoughts on using Mopars' aluminum housing w/billet caps in a 440 Dart Stocker? Will the 742 hold the torque?

Jeremy 04-30-2009 10:51 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
I don't think NHRA would like that in Stock.

Dusty Lowell 04-30-2009 11:14 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
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Chuck Beach 04-30-2009 12:32 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Dusty,
You can use one in stock and MOPAR (if they are still in business) pays contingency. The problem is when you break a rear end it will usually break the aluminum housing. Been there done that. I asked several manufacturers if they can fix it and they said no ... they are about 11 lbs. lighter than the cast one and are not suppose to flex as much, but they are expensive and won't take the impact of a rear end breakage ...

Jeremy 04-30-2009 01:47 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Chuck, I asked NHRA about this a couple of year ago and they said no. I think I still have the letter some place. Maybe this has changed, but are you sure as I would like to use one.
Thanks Jerry

Chuck Beach 04-30-2009 01:50 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
I ran one for over 3 years before I broke it ...

Myron Piatek 04-30-2009 05:05 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
If the aluminum center section is listed as a Stock class contingency item, it should indicate that it is legal for use in Stock. It is legal in IHRA and I've been using it for almost 2 seasons. I thought I would be hearing some noise and possibly replacing the ring & pinion by now, but it seems to be holding up rather well. I've only had high 1.40 60' times, usually 1.50-1.51, but I have to weigh 3,530+ lbs.

On a similar note, the Moser 8 3/4 housing has been approved by NHRA for Stock!

http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...0-xi_4-56.html

Paul Precht 04-30-2009 10:32 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Are we talking about carriers or housings

Jeff Lee 04-30-2009 10:51 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Regarding NHRA, maybe Evan Smith could chime in on the illegality of aluminum center sections.

Bob Mulry 05-01-2009 12:46 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Jeff,

That's a Ford and he is a technical expert who is a published author in National Dragster.

Now my plan is to put a Ford 9" housing with a Strange Aluminum 12 bolt center section in our stocker and see if we can sell that to NHRA.

Bob

bill dedman 05-01-2009 02:40 PM

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Bob,

That'll happen when Ford buys G.M. and resurrects/exhumes Pontiac. :)

Bill

Bob Mulry 05-01-2009 09:32 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Bill,

I guess that's like the AMC / MOPAR shotgun wedding that put Dana 60's in the AMX.

Just to set the record straight, the last Pontiac rolled off the assembly line 28 yeras ago in 1981.

Bob

herbjr 05-01-2009 10:06 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
According to the GURU's a Dana is .2 slower anway. Thats why I just put one in my 3745lb stocker.

Herb Jr

I'm not a GURU

Jeff Lee 05-02-2009 12:46 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Bob,
FYI, NHRA told Evans to take out his aluminum 9" center section. Even after it appeared in ND as a tech article. It falls under "no light-weight components unless otherwise specified" in the rulebook. Obviously there are many loop holes under that category.

Please email me at the address below. I want to discuss something else with you.
Thanks,
Jeff

bill dedman 05-02-2009 07:36 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Jeff,
Thanks for that information.

Bill

RJ 05-02-2009 07:44 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 118397)
According to the GURU's a Dana is .2 slower anyway. Thats why I just put one in my 3745lb stocker.

Herb Jr

I'm not a GURU

I heard "Bocephus" is getting a promotion to SS, what combo you going with?

p.s. - coolest car I've seen in years.

340Cuda 05-02-2009 10:13 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 118397)
According to the GURU's a Dana is .2 slower anway. Thats why I just put one in my 3745lb stocker.

Herb Jr

I'm not a GURU

I am no GURU but my personal experience has been that the better pinion placement on the Dana made up for the extra weight. I switched from an 8.75 with a spool to a Dana 60 with a spool (same axles) and the only real change was I quit breaking gears. The car seemed to run exactly the same.

I saw a post from Larry Hill earlier that switching to a Dana did not slow him down, although I assume he was able to maintain the same weight by removing ballast.

Maybe you are saying the same thing but being more subtle :-)

Bill Lamb

George Mirza 05-02-2009 11:35 AM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
I have heard of Max Wedge cars going faster with the Dana's. Just look under John Shaul's car, if it will make it faster it's on John's car.

Jeff Lee 05-02-2009 08:33 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
Years ago Car Craft did a back to back at the track test of an 8 3/4 to a Dana 60 in an A-Body. No difference.

herbjr 05-03-2009 09:42 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
I have done this to two different cars and the A body car worked better with the Dana. The wagon we changed alot of stuff at once but its .07 quicker in 60 now than it was 2 weeks ago.

Herb jr

Tom Goldman 05-04-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Aluminum 8 3/4 Housing
 
I won't speculate on weather it's legal for Stock, but I built an aluminum 8 3/4 for a friend 3 years ago for a dragster that runs lo 7's and it 's holding up very well. .....As to the Dana , we used to take the Dana out of my Uncles SS/AA Baracuda and put in a 12 bolt for heads up and record runs. It was a whopping .03 quicker than the Dana... The car slowed by .03 when a 9" was installed!. ....Tom


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