vp racing fuel
 

A little while back i posted a question about vp110 and if it was the same as the stock/super stock fuel listed in the accepted fuels list. I found out from vp it is indeed the same fuel just made in different places. They are changing the name of the stock/super stock fuel to sportsman. If you buy it at your local track it will probably be called vp110 and if you buy it off the truck at a race it will be called sportsman.

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I would research this a little more. I can buy VP 110 for less than $7/gallon compared to almost $11 for C-12. I doubt a fuel that cheap (?) will be NHRA accepted.

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I did research it. I talked to one of the main guys with vp on the phone about a month and a half ago. He was also at the richmond sportsman national. They also just came out with a press release. That was the whole point was to have a fuel that was more affordable. I running it all year and I get the same performance as I did with torco or sunoco.

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About 5 years ago,I tried running the VP 110 , which was also called "Motorsport Red" at the time, as my 8.4.1 compreession 302 certainly doesn`t need the pricy stuff. It ran fine, but out of 3 different attempts, from 2 different drums, it failed fuel check at a LODRS race twice. I was told it was not as stable as V12, so I switched to V12, and have never flunked a fuel check since.

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Sunoco Blue is just as fast and a ton cheaper.

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He did tell me that the vp 110 should pass but to check it first to make sure. It is made in various places throughout the country. The stuff they bring in on the truck is made in san antonio and it is made with tighter tolerances.

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The VP 110 isn't on the NHRA accepted fuels list. VP shows it as being purple and the list shows the Stock/Superstock fuel you referred to as light blue. There's also nothing called "Sportsman" on the list, but it hasn't been updated since May 2007.
I'd check this out before running it.

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I got tossed a couple of years ago with VP110. It is not on nhra's approved list

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The VP guy at richmond said you have to ask for the Sportsman fuel. I'm pretty sure he said the "110" is different. The Sportsman fuel is light blue.

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Sorry to thread dig, but I am a newb to class racing... I just want to be clear on something. I had just taken it for granted that if you wanted to run a lesser fuel.. Say pump gas , that this would be ok. From this I am gathering that is incorrect. You absolutely have to run accepted fuels? If the fuel you wanted to run would be a lower octane, lower specific energy etc, this is not acceptable?

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Thats right, you are required to run a fuel that is on NHRA`s "accepted fuel list", and that fuel WILL be tested against the specs that NHRA is given, by the manufacturer, for the particular brand & version of fuel that you are claiming. Since "normal" gas station pump gases are not on the NHRA fuel list, there are no specs provided, so they are ineligible. "Lesser" fuel or not, if it`s not on the list, you can`t run it, at least at a NHRA divisional or national event. On my particular low compression, smogger Ford combo, I have tried Chevron mid grade pump gas at a local track test or bracket race, and it ran just fine, and actually a tic faster than the VP C12 I normally run, the problem lies in ensuring that all the pump gas has been flushed/drained out, so as not to contaminate the specs of the approved fuel when the time comes to ran a NHRA race.

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I agree with Michael Beard. Sunoco is just as good as any compairable fuel in the VP line up. VP wants you to believe that they are providing you something special for the premium dollar. As I said before in another thead, if VP is better it isn't $6 more per gallon better.

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I might make it to the open @ Indy this weekend...

So looking at the accepted fuels list.. Under Sunoco they have Turbo Blue? Is that the brand Turbo Blue or are they calling Sunocos Supreme that is blue Turbo Blue?

Also so if I have some C16 that is fine in Stock? I didnt see anything specific about stock or s/stk only running a specific fuel on the list like other classes..

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Be careful what you listen to and who it's coming from.. VP told me that Q-16 was the best thing since vanilla ice cream.. just put it in and pick up .03 to .05 and up to 5 mph.. sounds great until you find that you have to change jets and sometimes timing.. drain your fuel bowls and lines, and to be safe, get it out of your tank and pumps between races.. needless to say, I didn't buy any..

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Oh I know what fuel I would like to run an how to tune for it. I'm just making sure what I want to run is legal. C16 is about my 2nd choice, VP Import is probably my 1st. However, honestly 92 octane would work just fine for me Hahah.

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I got Sunoco standard this year for 5.75 a gallon.My car runs the same on unleaded premium, wish they'd let me run that at about 3.15 a gal. Rory, the place that sells the sunoco is in Longview washington.

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Tim, do you buy the Sunoco by the gallon, or by the drum? I have been buying VP by the drum, as it is the only commonly available race fuel in this area. Like yours, my Mustang runs just as good (if not a tick better), on pump gas, 89 octane Chevron in my case. Kinda sucks pouring $$$ fuel in a 8.4-1 compression engine!

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Rory..........FYI....Glenn Ingulden at Corvette Specialties sells Sonoco by the drum. We've been buying it from him all season, so much cheaper than VP.

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Rory, the place has a pump out front that you pump into your own jugs. I don't think by the drum was any different price except maybe for the drum deposit. Next time I'm gonna get a drum so I don't have to worry as much about the fuel passing fuel check over a few months{hopefully}

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It's been said many times , but bears repeating . The IHRA / NHRA fuel checks are deadly . Go to the web site of whichever of the two you're planning to race in , and read the accepted fuels list very carefully . If the race fuel you're using isn't there , it isn't legal . Doesn't matter what the race fuel salesman told you , doesn't matter what another racer told you . If you don't find the exact name , the exact octane , the exact color of race fuel you use on that list , you're not legal .
I f the race fuel you're looking at buying is made in several different places across the country , you are probably going to have a problem with consistency . Be carefull .
Check the specs on race fuel to be sure you're getting value for your money . Race fuel isn't always overpriced .
Here are the Motor Octane numbers of several 110 race fuels .
Sunoco 110 is 105 Motor Octane
VP 110 is 107 Motor Octane
Competition Race Fuels 110 is 108.5 Motor Octane

Mike Croley
Master dist . for Competition Race Fuels

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Jimi don't waste your money on VP just run the Sunoco, you can get it at Columbia Oil up on route 4.

P.S.
Are you related to Jim and Jack?