Spark Plug Adapters
 

Boy am I glad I did not buy the angle plug adapters, NHRA just said they are not legal, another 300 bucks saved. Tom

Re: Spark Plug Adapters
 

This is interesting. I saw a letter from the National tech department In California signed by Danny Gracias that stated that the spark plug adaptors were legal. In the order of full disclosure let it be known that i have a set of them.

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Tom, is that reversal posted or communicated anywhere official? How were you informed specifically? I saw the letter also so I would guess if they actually made a decision there would be an an official posting somewhere. Jim

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Jim. it's on the Lucas site.

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Could/ would you provide the link??
Thanks
Ralph

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Thanks for the link. I have a set and as things go it happens, I understand that, but it is a rather arrogant way to post it. If they would not have specifically allowed them, the "reminder" would have been appropriate. Since NHRA actually approved them and then rescinded the ruling, it would be more appropriate to note the change from their previous ruling. At least they are easy to take out. :)

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To all concerned, I did the best that I could to do things by the book. It's just that there are more powerful people involved. This did prove what I found by wet flowing and there is still more to come. They were not a mistake, it was a planned effort.
I was misled, Conway Witten
3711 SS/BA, SS/HA, SS/IA GT/AA, GT/BA, GT/FA, 307 B/ED

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I didn't see any wording about angled spark plug seats. Adapters to me means going from one size plug to another. (I am aware that these used a "smaller plug") However, an "adapter" has many meanings. Isn't an indexing washer a device that "adapts" plug electrode placement to be in a more favorable location for flame propagation? These weren't installed at the factory. So are those "spark plug indexing adapters" now illegal? I'm sure that Conway knows what he is talking about considering that he engineered them. I guess if you are going to toss Conway's innovation you might as well take a look at all the SS heads that have been welded up and redrilled to optimum plug location. At least we all know that operation is supposedly against the rules and to my knowledge, (inside information limited) never had a letter approving it. For what its worth,(very little) I have several "letters" that aren't worth the paper they are printed on. In my opinion, Conway engineered and got "approved" a device that made some hp.
With that "reminder" I would be very suspicious that someone is trying to get a patent on some similar device under a different name. Not like it hasn't happened before.

Shouldn't the reminder read?: Any device or procedure that causes relocation of the spark plug from its original factory placement or angle is prohibited.
At least it sounds more like someone was indicating a rule and not creating another "grey area".

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Hey Conway,

Nhra removed the adapter post from the Lucas site.

Jim Marshall

http://sportsman.nhra.com/

Thanks Jim, Conway

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Total BS to outlaw these, if they did . Plug in, plug out , long tip ,short tip, big, small. What's the difference? Unmachined plug hole. Get it?
These are the same people that ALLOWED Shubeck lifters in Stockers.

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This gets stranger and stranger. I wonder what's going on?? I just took these out of my car yesterday and put my other plugs in.

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Greg, why did you take the adapters out?:confused:

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It looked like they weren't going to be legal. May have to re-install.

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It looks like this rule is beinng over turned just heared it today waiting to see the posting

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I did get a reply from Glendora thanks to Ritch Bowers. Jim.






From: Pat Cvengros <pcvengros@nhra.com> [Add to Address Book]
To: Ritch Bowers <rbowers@nhra.com>, Bruce Bachelder <BruceBa@nhra.com>
Cc: "jimschaechter@earthlink.net" <jimschaechter@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: spark plug adapters?
Date: Jul 14, 2009 10:23 AM
Jim,

You are correct; there was a miscommunication, which caused the Tech reminder to be posted. When additional information was provided the reminder was removed from the web-site. With that said it is currently legal to run/use the spark plug adapters.

Pat Cvengros

Technical Services Representative

(626) 250-2295

-----Original Message-----
From: Ritch Bowers
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:10 AM
To: Pat Cvengros; Bruce Bachelder
Cc: jimschaechter@earthlink.net
Subject: FW: spark plug adapters?

Pat or Bruce,

Would you answer Jim Schaechter on his email about spark plug adaptors being legal. And also copy me as we have a LODRS at Columbus, OH next week.

Thanks,

Ritch

________________________________________
From: Jim Schaechter [jimschaechter@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:57 AM
To: Ritch Bowers
Subject: RE: spark plug adapters?

Maybe a miscommunication. If you hear anything please let me know. Am I safe in running these still? I have a letter stating that they are legal and nothing else to go on. Jim

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ritch Bowers <rbowers@nhra.com>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 9:29 AM
>To: 'Jim Schaechter' <jimschaechter@earthlink.net>
>Subject: RE: spark plug adapters?
>
>Don't have a clue why they posted and took it off of website. That would be something Glendora would need to finalize and post.
>
>
>Ritch Bowers
>NHRA North Central Div. Service Coordinator/Tech Director
>5 West State Route 218
>Bunker Hill, IN 46914
>(765) 689-8727
>(765) 689-7956 Fax Line
>(765) 689-8377 Tech Line
>RBowers@nhra.com
>
>
>
>Are you an NHRA member yet? JOIN NOW!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Schaechter [mailto:jimschaechter@earthlink.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:25 AM
>To: Ritch Bowers
>Subject: RE: spark plug adapters?
>
>Ritch, any response yet? I thought this was already approved and yet, there seems to be some contorversy. I jut am planning ahead for the next race and I don't want any issues that would cause me delays or worse at the track. Thanks, Jim.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ritch Bowers <rbowers@nhra.com>
>>Sent: Jul 9, 2009 7:55 AM
>>To: 'Jim Schaechter' <jimschaechter@earthlink.net>
>>Cc: Bruce Bachelder <BruceBa@nhra.com>, "Travis Miller
>>(TWM1940@aol.com)" <TWM1940@aol.com>
>>Subject: RE: spark plug adapters?
>>
>>
>>Jim,
>>
>>I forwarded this on to Bruce and Travis. Let's get a ruling back from them.
>>
>>
>>Ritch Bowers
>>NHRA North Central Div. Service Coordinator/Tech Director
>>5 West State Route 218
>>Bunker Hill, IN 46914
>>(765) 689-8727
>>(765) 689-7956 Fax Line
>>(765) 689-8377 Tech Line
>>RBowers@nhra.com
>>
>>
>>
>>Are you an NHRA member yet? JOIN NOW!
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Schaechter [mailto:jimschaechter@earthlink.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:50 AM
>>To: Ritch Bowers
>>Subject: spark plug adapters?
>>
>>Ritch, what is the story with the spark plug adapters? I saw the letter
>>from Bruce that allowed them, which everyone acknowledged. I just saw that someone posted a "reminder" that spark plug adapters are not legal. If we are talking about the same thing here, that would not be a reminder, but rather a reversal of a prior decision made by NHRA. I am confused. Did Bruce change his mind? Is it possible that no one in NHRA Tech in Glendora knoew that these were already approved. It is difficult to follow. Plese fill me in. I understand the right of NHRA tech to make a change, but they don't acknowledge it, so I wanted to be sure. It was pretty clear to me that Conway asked and received permission in advance here. Thanks, Jim
>

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What exactly do these adapters do?

Anyone have a picture of one?

Where do you get them?

Thanks for any information.

Jeff

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They really help 283 and 265s the most!!! They have a more primitive chamber.
Conway

http://stores.kaizen-ms.com/Categori...C%3ACombustion