AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn
 

WOODBURN, Ore. - Order after 2 rounds of qualifying in Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, Northwest Division, event at Woodburn Dragstrip:

Weather conditions: air temperature 69 degrees, relative humidity 56 percent, barometer 29.78 inches, adjusted altitude 1,065 feet, track temperature 95 degrees.


Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 6633 AA/SA Joe Sorensen, Woodburn OR, '69 Camaro 9.613 10.90 -1.287

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Now that the teardown is complete and recorded, congratulations to Hal and Joe! That's a stout record for a baaad hot rod.

c

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Hal and Joe GREAT JOB, On your new record.

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Good to see that radiator fixed. Very impressive run, congratulations on your record in AA/SA. I still can't figure out how you could not back up the B/SA record.

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Wow Larry....I cant believe you arent bitching about that combo now !!!!!! :)

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...fast, very fast.....hum, if only..

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What a pathetic fool. The run and the back up run were stunning achievements for the Sorenson boys yet some nobody keyboard whiner who can’t do anything with his own garbage has to try and soil the achievement.
I know… have a nice day. Is that an L on your forehead Ed?

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Hey Ed.......what DOES that "L" stand for anyway???? Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Later RJ

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If NHRA didn't pull the rod, piston, crank, cam, then this record doesn't mean a whole lot and this guy will keep blowing smoke up everyone's..... there's something fishy with this car. If NHRA pulls the rod, piston, crank, cam, etc. and I inspect them and it's legal, then I'll give the guy $2500!

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Well said Alan, These guys are no country bumpkins, they have been around a long time and do things the old fashion way........they thrash and have been at it a long time with this car. Give credit to a hard working team when due. They earned it.

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Alan-what happened to the words on your post? It was accurate, sincere, to the point and not unkind-why remove them?

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Does he still run the 427-425?

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Same engine he had in Boise. The 427/425 HP

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I wouldn't allow fredjohnston to inspect my oil filter........

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Isnt stock eliminator about getting through tech???? If your stuff gets through tech inspection than its legal enough to set a record. Arent we always trying to get better stuff done and get it through tech? Give these guys credit, they got it through tech and who is this other guy hating on these people who have worked their butts off on their combo to say the record doesnt stand because he didnt inspect it??? Who the heck is Fred Johnston????Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Guys "Go work on your cars"!!!! Maybe you should ask these guys about doing you a set of heads.

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I wouldnt recommend stock to any beginner, it lost that status along time ago. Its hard, expensive and you have to be a great cheater. You know it and so does everyone else.

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I bet Hal and Joe are reading this thread and thinking ( what a bunch of fools ) and just loving it.

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Anybody want to vote WHO is the "Stupid One" in this Thread...............Have A Nice Day!!

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Someone should offer to give them a set of factory stock closed chamber heads and stock out of the box intake and then see what the camaro runs.

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My, My Ed you sure seem to have pissed in their Wheaties Pal. Let me grab a beer,this is gonna be great!

RJ

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Almost anyone with half a brain could build and race a Stocker today that runs about .5 under the index without to much effort. Some classes it is easy to run closer to 1 second under with some good parts and nothing bogus....So when a guy who shows up and runs maybe .2 or .3 tenths under at the few races he goes to and shoots his mouth off about some real fast cars and if they are legal...consider the source. If they passed tech and pulled it apart for the record they are legal by todays standards. The same as years ago...they passed so they are good.

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Now Mr. Ed there actually is a lot of black magic involved in high seal low drag rings do you know how much power is in the new 0.7mmand 0.8mm ring packages? How about hot honing? How about gas ported spacers? I do but I spend a lot less time on line than you do. Do you actually know anything other than your incompetent gibberish on this forum?
My apologies to the real Mr. Ed, a talking horse must be intelligent this guy is just a horses behind

But Mr Ed I will give you a chance for redemption;

seems you think anyone that works hard on their stuff and is fast is all cheated up.
I will be in Sonoma why don’t you show up if you actually have anything to race and protest me? We can even have a side bet of a couple grand if you like? They find anything illegal you walk away with some cash and pride. In fact if you like at the end of the race you can have my heads for 3 grand and I will go get two sets done for the $3k.

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To stir the pot some more, think about this.

Joe never goes this fast at Nationals where there is class. At Vegas in A/SA he went 10.28 in class, McClanahan also went 10.28 running someone else. Does this mean McClanahan can go 9.60's in AA also. Isn't class supposed to be the place to show what you have. Vegas is a factored track, so getting hp is most likely not going to happen.

I noticed that he went a 10.41 in the eliminator at Woodburn, wow 8 tenths slower, I guess he is running on a two barrel for the eliminator or he put a ton of weight in the car, must have a welder with him, because we all know that much weight has to be permanent. I know Joe would not do anything against the rules.

Joe can pick his car up at will, any time any place. Not the usual 1 to 2 tenths or the usual 3 to 4 tenths the top drivers do at a race, he can pick up 8 tenths.

Were is the naysayer on here when it comes to running your car all out, and people are worried about the new CJ's sandbagging. No one should be crying now, the Chevy's can run what they want at will.

I think Joe has two engines, one for the nats and one for div, opens and records. We all know how easy it is to get through tech for records, and how tough it can be at nationals sometimes. I think if he went to Indy, and I have seen him run Indy in the past. If Joe went out and put a number down it would give more clout to the record.

With all this being said, I will give him credit for getting that 9.61 in AA through tech, he is the master.

Anybody know what his mph was?

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I met Hal and Joe Sorensen a couple years ago because I used to be a stock racer myself. These are two of the greatest guys you'll ever meet and they work incrediby hard together to reach their goals. I was there during the NHRA tech, which they passed with flying colors.
Congratulations guys--on your new AA/SA National record!

This is my first post on this site, and I would like to share a few pictures I took today of their Camaro.

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Tom;

136.96MPH

Mr.Ed BIG MAN your not going to reply to my last post?

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I've been around and watched these guys race for years. To say they are hard core racers who live to race is an understatement. Congratulations...you guys deserve it!

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My car has been torn down at Indy and DIV 6&7 and the tear downs were all on the same level. Give up on your conspiracy theory. Or do you think the US Natioanls are part of the conspiracy?

I would also like to point out that ALL the tech guys I have encountered in divisions 3, 6, and 7 work their butts off. They are knowledgeable and have the utmost integrity.
It’s incredible you insult people like Dave Schaffel and crew from Division 6 and the Division 7 tech crew the way you do with your baseless accusations.
they are no ones pupets.

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David, thanks for the pictures! Joe and Hal, congrats on the great record! Jim

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Wonder how long those Mustangs will let him keep it???

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I would like to start by getting a couple things out in the open. 1. Yes I am close friends with Joe and Hal. 2. Yes Hal builds and maintains my engines. With that being said I have been asked by both Joe and Hal to respond to these allegations as they have limited internet access over the weekend and quite frankly don't like to waste their time arguing on the internet.

In response to "fredjohnston" and Tom Dolan Joe took the following steps this afternoon at the Woodburn division 6 race today. After the tear down was complete the engine was sealed by a tech official, along with the motor mount bolts and the carburetor, it is sealed as a complete unit. At this same time the tech official took digital pictures of the engine being sealed. So "fredjohnston" and Tom Dolan this is the time you can really prove your point! Joe has made arrangements with national tech officials to inspect any and all components in the engine that you see fit on Thursday of the Seattle National. The fee will be $2500.00 cash or certified check. So like I said this is the time you truly have to put up or shut up! If you are a men of your words please contact me directly by P.M. or email and we will make arrangements. If you can not back up what you boasted about earlier I understand, some time your mouth writes checks your *** can't cash! I await your quick response so travel arrangements can be made for an early Thursday tear down party. At this point we will consider this matter complete until your response has been received.


Thank you,
Tommy Gaynor
tommy@gaynors.com

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Why the $2,500.00?

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GO READ fredjohnston's POST......he offered $2,500.......

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I read it. The question is still the same. If all is good why do the dollars matter?

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It seems awful fast to me but it was torn down and declared legal....and that my friends is that!

It doesn't matter if they are cheating, it doesn't matter if the officals are crooked, and it doesn't matter what you think.....under the current NHRA system it's legal and the record stands.......period!

Stop the bitchin'!

Jim Rountree

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Bill,
I'm not sure where some of the comments on this subject are coming from but they have moved from usual internet banter to something close to slander.
I have less experience that most people here in Stock but here are a couple things I have experienced. We nudged the record in G/S in 2005 when it was sitting at a minimum. Dave Shaffel and crew went through the car and engine with a fine tooth comb. We were not fast but Dave checked EVERYTHING by the book. Being my first time through a teardown he spent a lot of time explaining the process. It was smoking hot that weekend but there were no shortcuts taken. We saw the charactor of the D6 tech department from first hand experience.
Second, we parked beside the Sorensen's at Mission a couple years ago. One thing I observed first hand was these two guys spent a lot of time WORKING on their car and not much time wandering around looking at other peoples stuff. They seemed to be very serious about making their car run fast.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I like to keep it fact based.
Cam

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"In response to "fredjohnston" and Tom Dolan Joe took the following steps this afternoon at the Woodburn division 6 race today. After the tear down was complete the engine was sealed by a tech official, along with the motor mount bolts and the carburetor, it is sealed as a complete unit. At this same time the tech official took digital pictures of the engine being sealed."

Mr. Gaynor, the sealing of this motor at the D-6 race means absolutely nothing. I, like everyone else, can buy the sealer at any store and re-seal the motor. Put down a fast number at a National Event and take it completely apart the same day--immediately after the run. Do that and we've got a deal.

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Sooooo, you're not gonna take them up on their offer?

Looks to me like you've been owned.

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Would this be described as 'spirited debate'?

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Jeff, that is funny!
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, Ct.