427 Cougar Eliminator?
 

I ran into a guy last week who told me he has an original 427 Cougar Eliminator, has anyone ever seen such a car? In the area I recall seeing Boss 302, 351 4V and 428CJ ones but never a 427.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that they made 2 or 3 but don't take that as proof.

Maybe some of the Ford guys can answer this one.

Jim

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As a Cougar engine, the 427 was 390 HP hydraulic cam and only available in the 1967 Cougar GT-E.
The Cougar "Eliminator" was 1969-1970 model year.

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67 or 68 Ford DID make 427/ 385 horse (1-4V, hyd cam) Cougars. I used to work on a triple black one.

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That's what I thought Jeff. [I did glance in the NHRA guide, but I've been told it is not always accurate:-)!]


Had a friend who owned a all black 428 convertible Cougar. He's still sorry he gave it away.

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Back in '68 or '69, HOT ROD magazine had a feature story (and the car was splashed all over the cover of the magazine) about a 428CJ Cougar Eliminator, and this particular car had a 2-speed rear end.
I'm not making this up... I couldn't.

I don't remember the details, but it was a Ford 9-inch carrier with some kind of spur-gear arrangement at the front of the pinion, that was sort of an like an old Halibrand Quick-Change, turned around, so the driveshaft input was driving this gear arrangement which could be 1;1, or 1.3:1, or something like that.

Anyway, it was a street/strip dream, or, seemed to be. Deep gears for the strip and a 2.75:1 for the hiway, all in one third member.

I never ever saw one in person, so they must have had problems of one kind or another, and didn't produce many.

Anyone else ever see one of these?

I think that it was called a "STREEP" rear end.... no kidding (street/strip = STREEP??)

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Interesting reading

http://www.fordmercurycougarxr7.com/...ator/index.htm

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Thanks for the link. For those interested, that link mentions the "Streep" rear end and says it was manufactured by the Dana-Spicer Corporation..

See; I waasn't kidding about this... LOL!

Sorry for the hijack...

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Cougar 427 + 390 hp hyd cam low riser heads Model was a GTE. Eliminator cam in 1969 as a Boss 302 or 428 CJ, very few GTE 427 built was later replaced by 428 CJ

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1968 Cougar GTE 427/390hp, low riser heads, hyd cam, 735 Holley, only produced in 1968. They don't bring near as much as a 68 CJ Mustang . Nice cars put not much in the way of performance.

RJ Sledge

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Fank Iaconio won a Cougar Eliminator for winning the Super Stock Nationals at York Dragway ....I don't reacll what year it was exactly. It was a race run over 2 or 3 days and the racer who got the most points for round wins took the title. The car was yellow with some black accents. I thought it was a 428 CJ engine. It sat out in front of Franks shop in Totowa for quite a while for sale......I always like the sequential tailights on those old Cougar's.....

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Just think what that car would bring today at the Barrett Jackson auction......Whew !

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I used to own a pair of 68 Cougar GT-E's with the 427 engine. I had an all original red one that I sold to a fellow in San Antonio, TX a few years ago.
The other one was the last 427 Ford product made. It was made in July, 68. The 427's were replaced by the 428CJ's in the GT-E starting in April, 68. However, my car was the only 427 made with ram air and it also had the two speed rear end. I think the rear end is what held the order up and let it go by with the 427 SO engine. I believe it was Alex (Moneymaker) that told me he knew a little history about my car and that it was a factory mule, maybe.
Anyway, I sold it a few years ago for enough to buy a 69 drag pack GT-500 and thought I did well. Now, I really regret selling the Cougar although it is having a restoration done to it by someone that really appreciates what it is.

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Yes, it is '68 only, not 1967 as I posted originally. Also, it was a 390 factory rating and the 427 Cougar had the small Holley. I assume it was the small car and hydraulic cam that hampered performance, although 390 HP in a mid-weight pony car can't be much to sneeze at. Here's the carb specs per NHRA:
428 CJ Holley - 1686x1686/1375x1437 14 – (735 CFM)
427 Holley – 1563x1563/1250x1313 (600 CFM?)

Interestingly, I see that NHRA lists this 427 as a Mustang option in 1968. While I do not believe that to be true, it is written. I would say the '68 427 Mustang / Cougar engine is due for some politickin' by some smart FOMOCO racers! How about something like the -75 HP drop the Pontiac 428 recently received? As I quickly review the specs, it looks like a 75 HP reduction is not out of line. Seriously....

Bill, how would you rate the performance of your Cougar GT-E against your GT-500? I would bet the GT500 is porkier and it shows.

The GT-E's restored bring close to $100K and are a rare sight. Some more discussion on that 2-speed GT-E would be interesting. Something like that at BJ or other venue? The sky's the limit. I could see a car like that with a 427 and special rear being well north of $150K.

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>>>"Interestingly, I see that NHRA lists this 427 as a Mustang option in 1968. While I do not believe that to be true, it is written."

Jeff,
II attended the 1971 NHRA Nationals at Indy, and took my camera (wonder of wonders.) The first car I took a picture of was a 1968 Mustang fastback Stocker that had a 427 (not a 428CJ) in it. Denny Reed was with me, and he raced a 428 '68 fastback at the time, and he wanted a copy of that picture because he said it was a rare option, and that was the only one he'd ever seen.

Now, I can't find that picture. $#@^&*@^%$!!!!!!

But, they DID exist.... a few, anyway. It was a hydraulic-lifter engine, according to Denny. Not a particularly good choice as a race car,, he said at the time.

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Ford guys,
I say 305 HP factor. This 427 compares favorably (I think) to the 1965 Dodge 426 street wedge. The 427 has a approximate .050" larger cam and a few CFM over the mopar.
So the question would be: is it worth 37 CI over a 390 / 315 with all of the inherent advantages a 390 has?
Obviously I'm bored...:rolleyes:

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Don't know how many of you guys have heard of Kevin Sudyam. Lives up Washington way and is a car collector. He is a crab fisherman like on TV, but not like on TV. He has a 1968 427 side oiler at http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gall...27+Side+Oiler/

The whole site is worth checking out. Some cars I remember reading about and drooling over when I was a kid.

http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gallery2/main.php

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Here is a link to a Cougar article in the new Muscle Machines. I realize it's a '70 but there's some good info in there:

http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/..._feature1.html

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The whole site is worth checking out. Some cars I remember reading about and drooling over when I was a kid.

http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gallery2/main.php[/QUOTE]

Guys, thanks for the links, very nice sites. I recall seeing Don's Cougar for sale while talking with my friend Ed north west of Chicago. Really a period paint job. Doesn't Bucky Hess have those designs on his car?

Not to stir the pot :-) but none of his BB 'Cudas have a glass hood? ;-)

I'm going to attempt to get some better info from the guy about his 427.