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treessavoy 07-22-2009 11:59 PM

New Camaro ET's
 
Took the PT Cruiser to test and tune at Gainesville and ran a new Camaro SS twice. Automatic car that ran 13.74 and 14.05 then he parked it.

The interesting thing is that there was a guy there with a Chrysler Crossfire SRT6 (6 cyl) and he ran 13.4's and .5's all night. That's right chevy guys, a Chrysler 6 cylinder out ran the new Camaro!

Just trying to stir things up, please no threats, mail bombs or IED's; if you decide to invade me, remember that Max the Wonder Dog will slobber all over you!

Jim R

bigshow2966 07-23-2009 04:26 AM

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The main difference is that Chevy will sell a bazillion Camaros. Chrysler couldn't give the Crossfires away. SRT 6 is supercharged too.

W J 07-23-2009 06:51 AM

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Bringing a '010 SS automatic coupe up to New England Dragway on Sat. to test (weather permitting). 1st track outing w/car.....so far he's done 3600 stall, headers, and e.f.i. live tuning. The only tire he could get ahold of for the rear brake clearance was a 20" Nitto drag radial....we'll see what this car does w/very low mileage, and stock except for what's mentioned....A little skeptical of the IRS and stock rear axles on this car, but have to start somewhere...:D WJ

jimi 07-23-2009 06:07 PM

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[QUOTE=treessavoy;131148]Took the PT Cruiser to test and tune at Gainesville and ran a new Camaro SS twice. Automatic car that ran 13.74 and 14.05 then he parked it.

that is pathetic! i hope that the driver of the camaro really sucked, i took my 4300# 09 challenger 5.7 6speed and went 13.62 @ 104.00 bone stock!!!! i was told the camaro's only weigh 3600 with driver.it should be a lot quicker.

dartman 07-23-2009 06:38 PM

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my 09 challenger 5.7 auto went 13.59 with my wife at the wheel

W J 07-23-2009 07:32 PM

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[quote=jimi;131273]
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 131148)
Took the PT Cruiser to test and tune at Gainesville and ran a new Camaro SS twice. Automatic car that ran 13.74 and 14.05 then he parked it.

that is pathetic! i hope that the driver of the camaro really sucked, i took my 4300# 09 challenger 5.7 6speed and went 13.62 @ 104.00 bone stock!!!! i was told the camaro's only weigh 3600 with driver.it should be a lot quicker.

'010 Camaro coupe = 3860 LESS driver.:confused: WJ

TOSTO RACING 07-23-2009 08:04 PM

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I've seen numerous 6spd 2010 camaro's run 13.0's some are running high 12's at 110 mph with good drivers bone stock.

treessavoy 07-23-2009 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshow2966 (Post 131153)
The main difference is that Chevy will sell a bazillion Camaros. Chrysler couldn't give the Crossfires away. SRT 6 is supercharged too.

So, what you're saying is that because the Crossfire will be out sold by a bankrupt company, it shouldn't be faster than a new Camaro...great logic!

Yes, the 3.2 SIX cyl is supercharged and put out 330hp and weighs 3220lbs, the Camaro is a fuel injected, multiple valve 425hp V8 and weighs about 400lbs more SO, you feel the 6cyl should be faster....not much faith in the camaro!

bill dedman 07-24-2009 12:11 AM

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>>>"Camaro is a fuel injected, multiple valve 425hp"<<<

Multiple-valve???

You were expecting, maybe, ONE???

LOL!

I have no clue what this ("multiple valve") means....

treessavoy 07-24-2009 12:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 131324)
>>>"Camaro is a fuel injected, multiple valve 425hp"<<<

Multiple-valve???

You were expecting, maybe, ONE???

LOL!

I have no clue what this ("multiple valve") means....

My apologies, my uni-valve brain misfired...but, actually two is more multi than one! LOL!

Think how simple your valve train would be if you only had one valve....who cares about exhaust...?

bill dedman 07-24-2009 03:28 AM

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I tried that, but it kept blowing head gaskets.... :(

Ken Haase 07-24-2009 11:18 AM

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Think how simple your valve train would be if you only had one valve....who cares about exhaust...?

Well Jim, I've got just the thing for ya' to stuff in that Mopar. Getcha a blown 3-53 Detroit diesel. Transfer port(like a 2-stroke) on the intake and a conventional valve on the exhaust. Their unique sound earned them the nickname 'Yamaha'.

Ken

treessavoy 07-24-2009 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Haase (Post 131385)
Think how simple your valve train would be if you only had one valve....who cares about exhaust...?

Well Jim, I've got just the thing for ya' to stuff in that Mopar. Getcha a blown 3-53 Detroit diesel. Transfer port(like a 2-stroke) on the intake and a conventional valve on the exhaust. Their unique sound earned them the nickname 'Yamaha'.

Ken


Ken,

Will it mate up to front wheel drive? The PT needs all the help it can get....where can I but headers for that set-up? LOL!

Jim

keith ohanesian 07-24-2009 05:46 PM

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[QUOTE=jimi;131273]
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 131148)
Took the PT Cruiser to test and tune at Gainesville and ran a new Camaro SS twice. Automatic car that ran 13.74 and 14.05 then he parked it.

that is pathetic! i hope that the driver of the camaro really sucked, i took my 4300# 09 challenger 5.7 6speed and went 13.62 @ 104.00 bone stock!!!! i was told the camaro's only weigh 3600 with driver.it should be a lot quicker.

This is funny. "that's pathetic".... Jimi my tow vehicle goes 13.50 with two people in it. Oh that's @ 8000 pounds... Its almost as fast as the car its pulling.

BLAZER 07-25-2009 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING (Post 131294)
I've seen numerous 6spd 2010 camaro's run 13.0's some are running high 12's at 110 mph with good drivers bone stock.

Your right on--they weigh alittle over 4,000 lbs with 150 pd. driver--the C6 corvette 6 speed runs 12.50s @ 116 mph--same motor but 600 pds. lighter--

MikeFicacci 07-25-2009 04:01 PM

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We took a bone stock 2010 Camaro with an automatic transmission to E-Town last month and ran a 13.2 at 108. With just a tune, we went 12.89 at 109.5. With a set of American Racing Headers (1 3/4") and a larger camshaft, we went 12.21 at 114 mph in 3500-feet.

On another note, we put a P-1SC-1 Procharger on a Pontiac G8 (almost identical to the Camaro) and went 11.42 at 124 mph with a 2.08 60-foot and stock converter. Both cars are still averaging 30 mph on the highway, idle quietly at 550 rpm, and are on 93 octane. We now have a Pontiac G8 with an LS7 (Z06 engine) and a D-1SC Procharger that makes 880 horsepower.

The independent rear has consistently been launched in recent testing with the new Camaro and a Vigilante 3200-stall torque converter with sub 1.55 60-foot times completely stock. The 6L60E automatic transmission is absolutely bulletproof.

denny harvey 07-25-2009 05:34 PM

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saw a new back camaro at test and tune on wednesday night,went13.17 and a 13.29 on the two runs i seen.it was an auto...

Biscayne 07-26-2009 09:40 AM

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Treessavoy- That cross fire 3.2 motor is a Mercedes Benz motor. The same one used in the older AMG cars. It has a 3 valve head.

GeorgeInNePa 07-26-2009 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 131531)
We took a bone stock 2010 Camaro with an automatic transmission to E-Town last month and ran a 13.2 at 108. With just a tune, we went 12.89 at 109.5. With a set of American Racing Headers (1 3/4") and a larger camshaft, we went 12.21 at 114 mph in 3500-feet.

On another note, we put a P-1SC-1 Procharger on a Pontiac G8 (almost identical to the Camaro) and went 11.42 at 124 mph with a 2.08 60-foot and stock converter. Both cars are still averaging 30 mph on the highway, idle quietly at 550 rpm, and are on 93 octane. We now have a Pontiac G8 with an LS7 (Z06 engine) and a D-1SC Procharger that makes 880 horsepower.

The independent rear has consistently been launched in recent testing with the new Camaro and a Vigilante 3200-stall torque converter with sub 1.55 60-foot times completely stock. The 6L60E automatic transmission is absolutely bulletproof.



I have a '08 G8GT, I've gone a best of 12.560 @ 109.64 on borrowed 18" drag radials with a 1.78 - 60'. ECM/TCM tune, 1.75" ARH headers, 3200 Yank converter and a Roto-Fab CAI, stock cam (.472 lift).

I have a new set of MT ET Street drag tires to try this year.

What tires did you use to get your 1.55 60' in that cammed Camaro? Did you brake stall it or leave from idle?

George Cottell Jr.

goinbroke2 07-27-2009 11:37 AM

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Haven't heard it being THAT fast. Many have spewed either tranny/output or axle on the ground when launching with street tires let alone slick. The camaro stopped shipping to dealers for a bit to get the tranny issue sorted out. In fact, check out the camaro forums and you will be sickened by the quality issues being reported.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Also, here's a list they made up (from various people) for things to watch out for;
- BATTERY CABLE(MOSTLY V8's)
- OIL LEAK
- DIGITAL SPEEDO INACCURATE
- PULLY SHAKING
- BROKEN TRANNY
- IGNITION MECHANISM ISSUE WITH KEY GETTING STUCK IN CAR
- RS tail lights installed (all 4 of them).
- Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly
- A pillar trim not loose and falling off.
- Bumper rub with body.
- Trunk opens with switch and remote
- Correct speedo/tach gauge ring color
- Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger door
- Doors gaps /alignment
- Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes
- Halo's work correctly and match in brightness.
- Door panel not scratched from seat belt.
- Door sill trim not loose or coming up.
- Rear spoiler not loose.
- shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be faulty material
- AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, most likely blockage in AC drainage
- clunking noise in changing gears
- trunk opens with remote and laser cut key
- USB/aux work
- rear spoiler is installed correctly
- pillars are snapped on right
- breaks don't squeek
- GFX installed correctly
- wheels are tires in good condition
- check for damage in the interior, basic procedure
- check the locking mechanism of both doors


I hope it turns out ok as competition is good, but man, they had what, two years to sort it out before it was actually intro'd?? WTF?
First year on any vehicle used to be poison, now pretty much EVERY car maker is building higher quality than even just a few years ago. No excuse for some of this crap though.

cambria 07-27-2009 12:02 PM

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I will run mine wednesday and let you know

MikeFicacci 07-27-2009 01:06 PM

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With both the Camaro and G8 you can leave from idle or 1000 to 1500 rpm. The converter we use is a Vigilante 2800-stall triple-disc lock-up from Precision Industries. The problem isn't getting the car to hook, the problem is the 1/2 shift that spins with just about every tire we put under it. We put the car in manual mode and shift at 5500 instead of 6400 which tends to take care of the problem.

The Camaro is going to be a very quick car with a few modifications. One of the biggest advantages with the 6L80E cars is the L99 engine with variable valve timing technology. The problem we are now having with out 850 horsepower G8 is that no one will let us run 10's at over 140 without a roll bar, jacket, driveshaft loop, etc... Although we will be running it next week.

GeorgeInNePa 07-27-2009 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 131818)
With both the Camaro and G8 you can leave from idle or 1000 to 1500 rpm. The converter we use is a Vigilante 2800-stall triple-disc lock-up from Precision Industries. The problem isn't getting the car to hook, the problem is the 1/2 shift that spins with just about every tire we put under it. We put the car in manual mode and shift at 5500 instead of 6400 which tends to take care of the problem.

The Camaro is going to be a very quick car with a few modifications. One of the biggest advantages with the 6L80E cars is the L99 engine with variable valve timing technology. The problem we are now having with out 850 horsepower G8 is that no one will let us run 10's at over 140 without a roll bar, jacket, driveshaft loop, etc... Although we will be running it next week.

I haven't tried leaving from idle yet, I've been foot-braking it to 2000.

Sean Haning 07-27-2009 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 131818)
The problem we are now having with out 850 horsepower G8 is that no one will let us run 10's at over 140 without a roll bar, jacket, driveshaft loop, etc... Although we will be running it next week.

Every track will let you do it once, lol. Some twice if you tell them the first time was an accident.

jarn05 07-29-2009 10:08 AM

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[QUOTE=keith ohanesian;131432]
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimi (Post 131273)

This is funny. "that's pathetic".... Jimi my tow vehicle goes 13.50 with two people in it. Oh that's @ 8000 pounds... Its almost as fast as the car its pulling.

hey **** and balls! how have you been? i saw you at lebanon valley did not have the time to stop by, you probably have three times as much invested into your truck just in the turbo and head studs then you have spent on the old camaro!!!!!! hahaha, stop by some time to shoot the *****.


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