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A/SA Fairlane 10-09-2009 09:24 AM

1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
The bow tie boys should be happier now LOL

Superfan1 10-09-2009 11:47 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A/SA Fairlane (Post 145131)
The bow tie boys should be happier now LOL

Bruce should have quite a bit to say.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, Ct.

denny harvey 10-09-2009 12:56 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
thats a nice pass,but i dont see too many a/stockers for sale just yet..

Schenck 10-11-2009 12:06 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Please explain the second round loss to me. 9.81 off on the top end?

Greg

Tom Meyer 10-11-2009 12:11 PM

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Does that mean he gets his combo hit twice???? It sure does not help the average.

Ed Fernandez 10-11-2009 01:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denny harvey (Post 145169)
thats a nice pass,but i dont see too many a/stockers for sale just yet..

This guy is a one man AHFS wrecking crew.Maybe Ford will pay to send him to the Jim Harrington drag
school.I'm sure Harry can teach him how to save the HP factor.
He goes 80s in qualifying and dials 10.0s today.Duhhhhhh.

hadtobethere 10-11-2009 03:07 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schenck (Post 145446)
Please explain the second round loss to me. 9.81 off on the top end?

Greg

...he lifted at the 1000'

Billy Nees 10-11-2009 03:22 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
From what I hear he had better have a rollCAGE in the car before he shows up again.

Dave Casey 10-11-2009 04:17 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Tom and Ed,
He went 1.42 under, soooo doesn't that make the average irrelevant, as he will get factored monday anyway ?

Billy,
You gotta be kidding me , he made those runs without a cage ? I figured if you did that, you went straight to jail. We aren't talking about squeching into the 9's here

Schenck 10-11-2009 04:33 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 145468)
From what I hear he had better have a rollCAGE in the car before he shows up again.

thanks Billy, that explains the 10:00 dail in. I didn't hadtobethere to know that he lifted. So NHRA told him that 10:00 was the limit with no cage so he showed them. Why not just detuned that thing like the rest of the stangs.

Greg

hadtobethere 10-11-2009 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schenck (Post 145494)
I didn't hadtobethere to know that he lifted.

..., but shouldhavebeenthere, then you would have known for sure, a 10.00 flat at the 1000'

Mickey Whaley 10-11-2009 10:32 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
6.11.0 @112.00 in the 1/8 he went 9.81 @ 118 in the 1/4 had a good light though 025

RJ 10-12-2009 05:18 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schenck (Post 145494)
Why not just detuned that thing like the rest of the stangs.Greg

It is detuned, this combo can be milked for decades, just wait til a stocker engine builder digs into one of these things.

Tom Goldman 10-12-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hadtobethere (Post 145498)
..., but shouldhavebeenthere, then you would have known for sure, a 10.00 flat at the 1000'

And he granny shifted it thru 3 gears and sounded to me like he skipped 4th and went right to 5th. .....Still , most of us at the starting line were amazed when he ran on the 10.00 dial with a 1.....Tom

John Kelley 10-12-2009 12:21 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Using the Wallace Calculator his 1/8 mile times (6.11/118) equate to a 9.66 ET at 139 MPH.......

junior barns 10-12-2009 01:53 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
With this run is'nt it now a AA car only???

Superfan1 10-12-2009 03:15 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by junior barns (Post 145730)
With this run is'nt it now a AA car only???

Yes, using the AHFS formula for runs of 1.40 or more under, (3.25% x 425 HP); the stick CJs will get 14 HP effective 10/12/09. At 439 HP, their factor changes from 7.62 to 7.38 which restricts them to AA/S.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, Ct.

tpoh815 10-12-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 145709)
Using the Wallace Calculator his 1/8 mile times (6.11/118) equate to a 9.66 ET at 139 MPH.......

Wow f#@%&n amazing isn't it? No cage either.

427stella 10-12-2009 04:59 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Hello, yes this is amazing. I know the man and the car. This car has not had a valve cover pulled. The Tremec 6 speed was changed to a G-force custom built 4 spd, McCloud clutch, a rear gear change and changing the suspension just a bit moving the weight around. Go to the major video posting site an you can see the car on the dyno making 620 hp. Type don fezell in the search bar and you will find the video. These cars were approved by NHRA for A/S so that is was we have been running. The problem is the car keeps getting quicker and quicker and the cage that came in the car from Ford/Roush is only good till 10.00. NHRA said no lower dial than that. So now trying to get some good seat time in the car to learn the cars feel. 5,000 launch run it as hard as can and hope to get on the brakes as hard as can at the end to make the next round. Will be adding more bars to the factory cage this winter, and most likely be in AA/S. Will see what happens with NHRA and these cars for next year with the rule changes.

X-TECH MAN 10-12-2009 07:20 PM

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LOL.....I just love it.....This is better than a soap opera !

hadtobethere 10-12-2009 07:34 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
...must have been teched as a 2009 Cobra Jet, I wonder how that works as it is not in the book?

...also as it made runs that went into the 9's and without a cage etc, maybe NHRA will say the car was illegal and therefor will not, did you hear that, will not get the 'automatic 1.40 under' HP hit.

...could happen, a 2009, not in the book and no cage, huh?

Michael Beard 10-12-2009 07:42 PM

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I thought I had heard about a racer being told last year that if he went in the 9's without a full cage, he was DQ'd from the event, no questions asked. :confused:

Ed Fernandez 10-12-2009 08:32 PM

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So now trying to get some good seat time in the car to learn the cars feel.


I would think you would get a feel for the cars potential during test and tune sessions,not during events.Unless you could care less about speeding up the process of getting this combination factored into Super Stock,where it belongs anyway.Maybe not a bad idea,Ford has milked these cars for enough publicity.

Mopar Steve 10-12-2009 09:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 145817)
So now trying to get some good seat time in the car to learn the cars feel.


I would think you would get a feel for the cars potential during test and tune sessions,not during events.Unless you could care less about speeding up the process of getting this combination factored into Super Stock,where it belongs anyway.Maybe not a bad idea,Ford has milked these cars for enough publicity.

I know the car was at an all day Test and Tune at Quaker City Raceway on August 9th. I saw it going through tech, but didn't watch it make any passes. I was tending to transmission problems with my own vehicle.

Ed Carpenter 10-13-2009 02:29 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
I was told in Houston that my cage didn't meet spec. Wesley said put a 4gc carb on it and put 200lbs in it and run GT/H or load it up and go home period. Also was told don't come back without a new cage in your car. ED

Mack Reeves 10-13-2009 07:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 145844)
I was told in Houston that my cage didn't meet spec. Wesley said put a 4gc carb on it and put 200lbs in it and run GT/H or load it up and go home period. Also was told don't come back without a new cage in your car. ED



The first time I ran my car at Gainesville was a Test N Tune night. First 1/4 mile full pass 9.95. You would have thought I had committed the un pardonable sin... At the ticket booth I was told to go straight to tech. Not back to my trailer first just straight to tech... Track manager and I believe even Don came to tech. They wanted to see my chassis cert. I didn't have one... The cage was there but just not certified.. I was told if I made another pass under 10 seconds I would be banned from the track for one year. I packed up my game and went home. Got the car certified and all was well..... this is a NHRA owned track and I understand the rules and don't have a problem with them as long as we ALL play by the same rules....... Just my 2 cents worth........

Billy Nees 10-13-2009 07:37 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Ah yes! The rules that we all have to play by. Depending, of course, on who your friends are, who your sponsors are, how much you're willing to spend and how much you're willing to bitch.

Chris Kilraine 10-13-2009 12:23 PM

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Ed F.........Didnt you watch Don run the match race at the S/SS meet at Beaver this year??? Don was able to get 10.0's out if it.....with like a 1.90 60ft :)

Ed Wright 10-13-2009 03:07 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 145844)
I was told in Houston that my cage didn't meet spec. Wesley said put a 4gc carb on it and put 200lbs in it and run GT/H or load it up and go home period. Also was told don't come back without a new cage in your car. ED

Didn't do that in Div 4, did he Ed?

Greg Hill 10-13-2009 03:43 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Did this combination get hp? If so where is it?

Ed Fernandez 10-13-2009 04:19 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Kilraine (Post 145906)
Ed F.........Didnt you watch Don run the match race at the S/SS meet at Beaver this year??? Don was able to get 10.0's out if it.....with like a 1.90 60ft :)

I didn't see him running at Beaver but if he did go 10.0s there he could have gone .4 faster almost anywhere else.Beaver is slower than a snail on heroin compared to other tracks.
This isn't the first time he dialed 10.0 and went way faster.I was at Concord and he did it there.
I guess he has no respect for authority.LOL
I'm guessing he'll finish out the year and put the car in his collection and move on to something else,like a lot of guys with money often do.
America is a wonderful place.

Ken Miele 10-13-2009 05:02 PM

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Greg,

The '08 CJ Coupe is now rated at 439 for manual only, with a weight break of 7.38. It is now a AA car only.

X-TECH MAN 10-13-2009 05:16 PM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 145956)
Greg,

The '08 CJ Coupe is now rated at 439 for manual only, with a weight break of 7.38. It is now a AA car only.

Ken....Do you mean AA/GS ? Just kidding. Not bad for an almost untouched engine and maybe almost another year before the automatics get some HP. How is your piece doing. Was it the track or did you lose a little HP lately? Playing it safe? Its better to run fast without the "hair dryer". Just keeping my eye on you...LOL. See you at the Dutch? Take care.

Ken Miele 10-13-2009 06:46 PM

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Hey Terry,

Car is running good, no need to let it all hang out until I needed it. Not that I can run close to the CJ's, I'm very happy with the HP we are making.

Dutch is up in the air right now.

lstanford 10-13-2009 10:20 PM

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OK, you technical guys. What about the 2010 CJ's. Same factory rated horsepower on the small motor. 2010 should be legal for A/Stock. All in favor say aye, all opposed say nay. Legal until someone blows up the index. Maybe someone with no money but just doesn"t give a sh**. By the way did Jimmy Ronzello kidnap Bruce, he has not been celebrating the re factoring of the CJ. Strangely quiet.

BlueOval Ralph 10-14-2009 06:03 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Do you mean AA/GS!! WHY NOT????????? REALLY

Quote:

Originally Posted by FECARMAN (Post 146015)
OK, you technical guys. What about the 2010 CJ's. Same factory rated horsepower on the small motor. 2010 should be legal for A/Stock. All in favor say aye, all opposed say nay. Legal until someone blows up the index. Maybe someone with no money but just doesn"t give a sh**. By the way did Jimmy Ronzello kidnap Bruce, he has not been celebrating the re factoring of the CJ. Strangely quiet.


bill dedman 10-14-2009 09:35 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Mot that far, performance-wise, from Ohio George's Malco Mustang AA/GS car... LOL!

Bruce Noland 10-15-2009 04:40 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FECARMAN (Post 146015)
OK, you technical guys. What about the 2010 CJ's. Same factory rated horsepower on the small motor. 2010 should be legal for A/Stock. All in favor say aye, all opposed say nay. Legal until someone blows up the index. Maybe someone with no money but just doesn"t give a sh**. By the way did Jimmy Ronzello kidnap Bruce, he has not been celebrating the re factoring of the CJ. Strangely quiet.

Jimmy can't make it to the Dutch so you can be sure there will be no attempted kidnapping.

There is nothing to celebrate about these cars or the Mopars being placed in regular Stock classes - not even the horsepower hits. But since you bring up the 2010 CJ's they will probably start off with the current horsepower figure as the 2008 CJ's if they have the same equipment.

Evan Smith 10-15-2009 07:19 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
I believe the 2010 CJ is Super Stock only.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 10-15-2009 07:38 AM

Re: 1 1587 A/S Don Fezell, DuBois PA, '09 Mustang 9.830 11.25 -1.420
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 146187)
I believe the 2010 CJ is Super Stock only.

there are making a stock and a super stock version


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