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MEMORIES 10-17-2009 06:48 PM

Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
I'd love to have a stick car as a "for fun" race car.

Wayne.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHXjTQWxwM&NR=1

danny waters sr 10-17-2009 07:09 PM

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Now that was cool . Rider needs neck brace and tighten seat belts.lol. Need a stick in my ole 4-door chevy ll stocker.

CycloneFE 10-17-2009 07:25 PM

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Great in car!!

Joe Schaechter 10-17-2009 08:27 PM

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http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/Traction.jpg

Casper68 10-17-2009 08:59 PM

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awesome video !!!!

Ronnie Hamlin 10-18-2009 05:07 AM

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Great Video....anyone else notice the drivers left leg when he changes gears?

Mike Delahanty 10-18-2009 07:04 AM

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Yes - I noticed how quickly that left leg got the clutch in and out on the gear changes - in fact it was so quick you didn't even see the leg move!

Z28-69 10-18-2009 09:46 AM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Watch the ride along video from outside the car! Wild sounding little thing.

jeff coyne 10-18-2009 09:55 AM

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Joe, now i know how to properly stage a stick car....tks...great ride. jeff

B Aceves 10-18-2009 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Schaechter (Post 146631)

Now Thats Funny I dont care who you are!!!

Greg Barsamian 10-18-2009 07:13 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Joe, You & Jim have WAY too much fun with that car!
Greg

mr305 10-19-2009 06:55 PM

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This has got to be funniest damn thing I have ever seen!!!!!

SuperStockDodge 10-19-2009 10:26 PM

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Good video :) As far as the left leg, i swear i remember reading this somewhere :confused: "Clutch must be used to change gears in a conventional manner" :rolleyes: LOL

rayfin 10-20-2009 12:40 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Mbm...eature=related

Outside view. SWEET !

mtkawboy 10-20-2009 01:17 PM

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Im sure all the stick racers just love that video as will NHRA tech dept. Nice move ! Its probably the only one like that though.

Ed Carpenter 10-20-2009 01:51 PM

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C'mon now NHRA tech guys know we all use the clutch on gear changes!!! If you don't believe us call Jerico

Harry 6674 10-20-2009 02:01 PM

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Just grind and file a few synco rings and start yankin. You don't need no stinkin $4000.00 transmission. Not for a little while anyway.

Craig Dawson 10-20-2009 03:35 PM

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Very cool video Joe. Sorry I missed the last race at Cordova. See ya next year, Craig (79 dodge aspen I/SA)

Troy Henderson 10-20-2009 03:43 PM

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I dig the dry hop :cool:

Mike Taylor 3601 10-21-2009 06:17 AM

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If you watch very carefully in super super slow mo you can see clutch being used on gear changes.
I miss dry hops I'll do one every know and then testing.

Mike Taylor3601

SuperStockDodge 10-21-2009 07:39 PM

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I have slowed the video down to the point that my computer almost crashes and i fail to see much movement on the left leg after the clutch is dropped on the starting line...:confused: LOL

Mike Taylor 3601 10-22-2009 06:02 AM

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Maybe you blinked on gear changes and missed leg movement it's really quick even in slow mo.
Mike Taylor3601

Mike Voth 10-27-2009 10:47 AM

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Of course he's moving his leg on the gear changes. The good ones move so fast, it's hard to see!!

Evan Smith 10-27-2009 11:15 AM

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I've posted this before, but here it is again. In-car from my stocker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yjFknIOgNk

Larry Hill 10-27-2009 09:49 PM

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I have looked at all these videos and I can't see anyones left leg move, thats real "Slick" shifted.

Jeff Lee 10-27-2009 11:36 PM

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Old men would use their entire leg to pound a 3400# clutch that's a dinosaur of days gone by. Today's clutches, especially like the Advanced Clutch used by James in his Chevy II here, only require a light tap on the pedal; a flick of the foot or even a tap with his big toe is adequate. Interrupting the clutch for a micro-second and very little movement is all that is required.
You would probably be able to see that action in the video if not for his right leg being in the way.
Now all of you Stock racers that rely on e-shift, compressed air or other means of shifting up a gear, you can relax now...:p

Strittan 10-28-2009 05:55 AM

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I may have got things wrong, but I thought drag racers did not use the clutch while shifting. I thought that's why it seems they're pulling the stick so damn hard, and as mentioned it doesn't look like the guy in that Nova (or any other guy I've watched for that matter) moves his leg at all.

I get what you're saying Jeff, but I think you should see at least a trace of movement if he used the clutch.

I may still be wrong though... :D

Harry 6674 10-28-2009 09:41 AM

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I know its not recommened but some people still shift against the rev limiter.

Aaron Keown 10-28-2009 09:51 AM

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Very cool video,5 stars.

Jeff Lee 10-28-2009 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strittan (Post 148342)
I may have got things wrong, but I thought drag racers did not use the clutch while shifting. I thought that's why it seems they're pulling the stick so damn hard, and as mentioned it doesn't look like the guy in that Nova (or any other guy I've watched for that matter) moves his leg at all.

I get what you're saying Jeff, but I think you should see at least a trace of movement if he used the clutch.

I may still be wrong though... :D

James is amazingly quick with that heel / toe movement. Aren't any of you guys old enough to remember "Kung-**" with David Caradine? "Snatch the pebble from my hand and you may go" That took years of persistently hard work but finally little grasshopper was ready to leave.
The life long dedication and refinement of the art of shifting is demonstrated here for all the world to view. James has elevated his art to such a higher standard that many may not even recognize what they are witnessing. It's sad but it's just a fact of life that many can't appreciate what they are witnessing.

Ken Haase 10-28-2009 01:07 PM

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Jeff, I was able to appreciate Jim's more conventional(ie.pre-historic) operation of the clutch pedal as he shifted coming back on the return road. Undoubtedly due to the lower RPM. And concern for his passenger,LOL. Of course, my 60+ year old eyes don't catch everything. These video's definitely make me lust for that additional pedal in my car.

I was curious about one thing though. What is the purpose of the repeated clutch action as he is staging? Or am I just a confused old man?

Greg Barsamian 10-28-2009 02:06 PM

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So thats why those guys had so many women at the end of the pits at Indy!

"Chicks dig Sticks"

Mike Voth 10-28-2009 03:05 PM

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Ken,
After pre-stage, a stick racer sets the brake pressure and uses the linelock to hold the pressure. "Bumping" the clutch allows the driving to stage the car under light brake pressure. I'm assuming this is what you're referring to???

Ken Haase 10-28-2009 11:10 PM

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Yep. Thanks Mike. I thought that was probably it, but it seemed a little 'exagerrated' or something. I better go watch it again. I might learn something.

Jeff Lee 10-28-2009 11:27 PM

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If you have to REALLY bump it in, you might have the brake pressure too high. 50-75 pounds is plenty to keep the car from moving forward as long as you have adequate air-gap. If you have a really tight air-gap it may require more brake pressure to hold the car on the line as you go WOT.

Dinsdale 10-29-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 148385)
James is amazingly quick with that heel / toe movement. Aren't any of you guys old enough to remember "Kung-**" with David Caradine? "Snatch the pebble from my hand and you may go" That took years of persistently hard work but finally little grasshopper was ready to leave.
The life long dedication and refinement of the art of shifting is demonstrated here for all the world to view. James has elevated his art to such a higher standard that many may not even recognize what they are witnessing. It's sad but it's just a fact of life that many can't appreciate what they are witnessing.

This is the first (and maybe last) time I call B.S. on Jeff's comments! I hope no one is buying this since almost all the stock and S/S guys I know don't clutch. It is against the rules BTW but everyone does it. Most race trans may not like not using the clutch but it will go into gear just fine. I've heard it's good for a tenth. I stab my clutch because I can't help myself. Can't say if it's actually releasing or not but my trans is relatively happy. The hemi stick car runs a G-Force and I have a Jerico. McLeod's in both.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/973-137_709593.htm

Mike Taylor 3601 10-29-2009 06:21 AM

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Any you old stick guys remember Hay's Mark XII pressure plates 3200 lbs static press, had to have seat
belts to hold you down in seat while pushed clutch pedal down. MarkXII w/Ram 6 bronze paddle disc
when you launched them it felt like your're car got rearended by a truck.We were ignorant
(hope I spelled that right,that would be ironic to spell ignorant wrong)didn't want clutch to slip or have fancy
smancy rev limiters or line locs but we liked'ddd thaaat waaay.LOL
Mike Taylor 3601
BTW anyone that thinks automatics are still cheaper needs to do some price checking.
auto or stick now almost same money.

Tom keedle 10-29-2009 07:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 148518)
Any you old stick guys remember Hay's Mark XII pressure plates 3200 lbs static press, had to have seat
belts to hold you down in seat while pushed clutch pedal down. MarkXII w/Ram 6 bronze paddle disc
when you launched them it felt like your're car got rearended by a truck.We were ignorant
(hope I spelled that right,that would be ironic to spell ignorant wrong)didn't want clutch to slip or have fancy
smancy rev limiters or line locs but we liked'ddd thaaat waaay.LOL
Mike Taylor 3601
BTW anyone that thinks automatics are still cheaper needs to do some price checking.
auto or stick now almost same money.



my left leg STILL shakes just thinking about it....

Jeff Lee 10-29-2009 09:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinsdale (Post 148508)
This is the first (and maybe last) time I call B.S. on Jeff's comments! I hope no one is buying this since almost all the stock and S/S guys I know don't clutch. It is against the rules BTW but everyone does it. Most race trans may not like not using the clutch but it will go into gear just fine. I've heard it's good for a tenth. I stab my clutch because I can't help myself. Can't say if it's actually releasing or not but my trans is relatively happy. The hemi stick car runs a G-Force and I have a Jerico. McLeod's in both.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/973-137_709593.htm

WHAT! I should try that someday! :)

TOSTO RACING 10-29-2009 04:24 PM

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Cool Video!


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