Bad track at Pomona
 

The left lane is garbage and nothing is being done about it. While sitting in the burnout box for 1st round I saw the racer in front of me go straight for the wall. The starting line crew brought their track prep mop out and brushed off the lane. I was motioned to the starting line where I lost a tenth in 60' costing me any shot at winning 1st round.
Second round, watching in the stands, Super Gas cars repeatedly got loose in the left lane culminating in a crash and nothing was done to the lane. Then came the 2nd round of super stock. One spins, the next crosses the center line, then another spins. Nothing is done to the lane.
Ladies and Gentlemen if we say nothing and let this continue it will do just that continue. This is a national event where the track is supposed to be the BEST. Clearly it is NOT and nothing is being done about it!!!!!!

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Byron
What did NHRA say when you went to the tower to complain?

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It comes down to $$ they dont want to spend, I have seen the NMCA doing the same, no prep, guys bitch no prep. Slip & Slide Nationals everywhere you go, mite as well stay home.

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Is it my imagination or does this seem to be the norm this year? Are they just not willing to spend the money for track prep? Is this another cost cutting idea from Glendora? Maybe if everyone shut their car off and refused to run until the track was prepped correctly. they can't throw everyone out! Just a thought. Jim

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Multiple complaints were made to the starter and the comment "we drug it and scraped it this morning" was made.

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5 post wow. If it was an IHRA race the keyboards would be smokin.

I'll bet they are using that summer time VHT.
Chip

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Byron,

As I've stated in the past on this forum, the same thing happened in Brainerd five years ago. I have not been to a National Event since, and didn't renew my NHRA Membership. They probably don't think they miss me, but my membership over the years could have bought them that barrel of traction compound they apparently need this weekend.

Jerry

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This is why I will run a slow automatic stocker if I ever start racing, lol.

Seriously though, sad to hear they're not making the lanes equally good. Makes up for some very unfair racing.

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It's nothing new at Pomona. Repeated every year! They run Sportsman late when the track is too cold and the new traction compound (cannot think of it but JP something comes to mind) is not Sportsman friendly. Hopefully they did not hurt any cars.

Jim Wahl, shoot me an email, Lost your new one.
BP

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Byron,
I was the lucky guy in front of you. My car is powered by a 318 Dodge and runs GT/HA, so definately not a real powerful ride. And I was carrying an extra 75 lbs for a couple of reasons including trying to hook up on the line. It must have looked wild from your seat. It got my attention. Guess I need to add more weight for the Winters....
Wayne

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Wonder if this had any thing to do with the bad track. At least in one of the lanes......
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r=100#indextop

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Is there a difference between "VHT track bite" and "VHT PJ1"? We have seen what we belive is a difference since our local tracks started using the barrells that say PJ1 on them. If its re-formulated, is this NHRA's idea to slow cars down? Just wondering, not saying that there is a difference, just asking. Maybe its nothing more than how its mixed. Thanks.


A another note, sure looks like it a great time for the AHRA! When NHRA cant do things right or treat the racers right, its time for something new!

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[QUOTE=nopwradders


A another note, sure looks like it a great time for the AHRA! When NHRA cant do things right or treat the racers right, its time for something new![/QUOTE]

LOL.....Dont hold your breath !

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Pat,

Byron's complaint stems from Friday's elimination run. Apparently, Doug Holder hooked well enough in the right lane to wheelie and crush the pan to cause the delay you mentioned. But that was the right lane, and it happened today.

Jerry

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From what we have been told NHRA does not use VHT anymore due to the pro's. The pro's do not want
VHT it is for some reason now after 50 years not usefull for there setup's, I for one was really taken back
by a actual bad traction issue at Vegas, We never in the past had traction issue's at Vegas it is one of the
reason's we love going there, Well one less reason now, running out of reason's real fast!!!

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It was even that way at Bakersfield at the Hot Rod Reunion. Usually the track is good in the morning and this year the exhibition cars and AFX cars that ran first all had huge problems. Almost every pass was an aborted run. Eventually it "came in" or maybe the faster dragsters were happier with that but three or four classes were skating around and a couple met the wall spectacularly.

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Same deal at Rockingham. The Rod classes were skating but T/S & T/D were O.K. Go figure.
I think what has happened is IHRA and NHRA got a deal on some traction compound and it's not working.
Chip

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Can't say if it was another problem or the lane, but............

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...97041#indextop
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...97010#indextop

That is a "dedicated" photographer!

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Is it me or does photographer # 21 have the biggest set of "nutz" for not moving during this crash?? I guess he takes the journalism thing to the next level. lol

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We were at the reunion with the White/Vangordon A/gas corvette. I watched 2 pairs of Jr fuelers go down the lanes just before our semi final run. They went straight. We took the right lane and went sideways at about 900 ft. Rob Patten drove around. Chris Beane put Patten in the right lane for the final and he went sideways too at about 900 ft. We had run the right lane all weekend and it had been good but it sure went to crap Sunday aftrnoon.

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Which lane was Keri Angeles in? Was the left lane the reason for her crash?

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I'll bet there will be a new rule about where photographers can stand after that.
that looks to be a little more dangerous that joyriding on a golf cart!

no way I would have stood there!

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No, Kari did not crash the car is not damaged. There was a problem with radial tire walk.

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Oh that's good to hear. I was listening on the 'net at work and didn't get the whole story. thanks for the correction Tony.

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Keri spun out due to "radial walk" but did a great job keeping it off the wall and upright. At least 2 360 spins and 2 flat front tires, but no other damage. I had a perfect view from the water box.

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YIKE!!! Great job of not crashing!!! Wish I'd have been there to see it. Thanks!

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Maybe SFI could come to the track and certify its safety before we run. I am sure NHRA would agree. Safety concerns about a racing surface should never fall on deaf ears.

I guess it might be time to strike "Safety First" from the NHRA logo and replace it with:

"Safety First, As Long As We Get Our Piece"

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Bob, From what I heard. The Pro's complained to NHRA that there was too much bite and NHRA decided to change thier traction compound. The complaint was that they were all having clutch issues. I heard that Jim Cowan had crashed also. I don't know if it was track or other problems. How many other cars had problems?


Barry

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I believe NHRA is using VP traction compound now instead of VHT. The Vp seems to work all right in the heat but when the track gets cold it's dangerous. This is just another reason to stay away from national events. The top people at NHRA don't care about sportsman racers and until there are wholesale changes in the management of NHRA nothing is going to change. If you believe this, why support them by attending National events?

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Can't really verify it from the different camera angles,,,but photographer #21 looks alot like div.6 photographer Rich Carlson,,whose hair was pretty white before that run almost ended up in his lap!
Danny Durham

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Chad Langdon also crashed his S/gas Henry J.

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We've all read about it on the internet for months now, that personnel
cuts were happening at the NHRA and they were going to get deeper...

Wasn't that Danny Gracia sweeping the water box during Stock / Super Stock
on Friday and Sat.?

Just curious.

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Barry, I do not know if you are talking about the Vegas race but I know in the later part of the day there were
multiple cars with traction issues, So the cold track issue with the new compound I think is a real issue, For
example I watched Leo Glassbrener with the same car as our's who I know rarely has traction issue's just blow the tires off the car in the late race for the number one quail tire race. Also talking with Steve Wann he
was saying his 60ft was all over the place as was our's. I firmly belive something has changed with the track prep and I noticed it at the Div 7 Bakersfield race also. BTW my uncle Rich said to say Hi and is
wondering when you are coming out again. Bob.

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Pomona is what I was refering to Bob but I heard the same thing from Vegas. That just sucks! Looks like a one lane raceway now at Pomona.
Tell Rich and Bob hello for me. I have tested 3 times now. Had some issues with front shocks and other doo doo but on Wed night here it ran 78 under with mufflers and 100 heavy. Tyler, Jeff, Darren and I are working on it and see if we can get it better. Where is the Impala/Caprice? That car is cool! I will send you a pm.


Barry

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That's Englishman Andy Wilsheer, a good foot taller than Rich.

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Thanks Tom,,,, I could have a lot of fun here about Rich and a one foot difference,, but I'd better be nice. He'd probably thump me upside my head with his lens next time he sees me, even though hes' truly one of the nicest guys around.................................... Danny Durham

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your not alone byron.
http://www.competitionplus.com/index...ona-right-lane

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here is what Greg Anderson had to say

http://www.competitionplus.com/index...ona-right-lane

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Hasn't NHRA been using VP Lane Choice ever since VP became their official fuel, etc.?

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Yes.