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art leong 11-22-2009 04:21 PM

Compression ratio calculators??
 
I've used a few different sites that come up with 3 different numbers.
Specs are 3.484 bore, 3.976 stroke, 10.2 cc dome, deck height 0, gasket thickness .074
gasket bore 3.51. Cylinder head volume 48 cc's
The sites I've found vary by as much as 2 full points (13 to 1 up to 15 to 1) Using the same input data (some of the sites don't ask gasket bore size) I would think it shoulkd be within half a point.

Adger Smith 11-22-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
You have a PM
You have more than enough

jmcarter 11-22-2009 06:08 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Art, did you try Wallace Racing calc?

http://www.wallaceracing.com/cr_test2.php

Jeff Lee 11-22-2009 08:39 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
I find this site is real simple for numerous race calculations:
http://users.erols.com/srweiss/index.html

art leong 11-22-2009 10:26 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
What gets me is I get 15.70 on one site 14.62, 16.30 on another
This is with putting the same numbers in Some take in to account the head gasket bore others don't. But it shouldn't come to 2 full points. I think there is a formula in an old rule book I can do on paper.

Ed Fernandez 11-22-2009 10:44 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 152701)
What gets me is I get 15.70 on one site 14.62, 16.30 on another
This is with putting the same numbers in Some take in to account the head gasket bore others don't. But it shouldn't come to 2 full points. I think there is a formula in an old rule book I can do on paper.

Artie,make sure you bolt that hood down good and tight.............................................

art leong 11-22-2009 11:00 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 152702)
Artie,make sure you bolt that hood down good and tight.............................................

Ed I have my front mounted parachute on that hood

Adger Smith 11-22-2009 11:23 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Art,
I think there is a formula in both the How to Build Books. Both Small Block and Big Block. I have it on my shop computer and will PM it to you tomorrow. It will come out with in a .00 of what I sent you.
Adger

NORMAN BARNARD 11-22-2009 11:36 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Useing your info. Above i got 13.540:1, normally aspirated at sea level........this is an older computer program i use with sprint car
motors.

art leong 11-23-2009 09:05 AM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
I'm going to run the motor the way it is. But I was perplexed at the variation in the different programs. I wonder if the calibations are done by nhra in different divisions LOL.

Dave Casey 11-23-2009 11:17 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
13.54 to 1

I look at as the volume with the piston at bdc divided by the volume with the piston at tdc

convert all values to cc's is easiest for me

16.387 cc's per cu inch

bore and stroke volume + deck volume + chamber volume +gasket volume-dome volume
divided by
deck volume + gasket volume + chamber volume - dome volume

art leong 11-23-2009 11:27 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Casey (Post 152889)
13.54 to 1

I look at as the volume with the piston at bdc divided by the volume with the piston at tdc

convert all values to cc's is easiest for me

16.387 cc's per cu inch

bore and stroke volume + deck volume + chamber volume +gasket volume-dome volume
divided by
deck volume + gasket volume + chamber volume - dome volume


Thats the way i thought it was calculated. But why are the calculators on line so far off? It seems like simple math to me. I just wasn't sure of the formula.

Adger Smith 11-25-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
In doing a little number movement with most of the on line calculators I think they are not figuring the dome vol. + or - properly in the formulas.
Art,
Daves formula was the one I had at the shop that I said I would PM to you.

NORMAN BARNARD 11-25-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Mine also converts everything to cc's so i can do a "pour check" with a burette thru the spark plug hole as a double check before the motor is sealed. At least we've found some consistency in a couple of programs.... Everybody have a good thanksgiving.

Chris Hardy 12-01-2009 09:19 AM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
I have a compression ratio calculator on my website that seems to be very accurate. www.racingenginetechnologies.com/services
Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Chris Hardy

Dave Gantz 12-01-2009 01:03 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
A couple of the ones that I tried consider piston dome as a positve number, some consider it a negative number.

art leong 12-01-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Compression ratio calculators??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 154054)
A couple of the ones that I tried consider piston dome as a positve number, some consider it a negative number.

Yes but even when entered correctly they vary by a lot. The one thing I have figured out is my new motor has about 1 more in the compression ratio.


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