Looking for input
 

I am looking for opinions and inputs and thoughts about an incident that happend at at a Divisional Race.

A track promoter and a racer had a disagreement based on some comments from the previous night on improvements that could make it easier for racers to find the location.

The next day the track promoter threatend to remove the racer from the property if the racer made one more comment or asked him a question.

The track promoter cussed the racer out inside the tower in front of 3 racing association officals and nothing was done by the racing body.

The facts:
racer pays money to attend a race and is threatened.

The racer in question never cussed, acted disrespectful or anything, the racer is know to be level headed and liked throughout the community.


What should be done about the incident?


looking for input

Concerned Racer

I see a lot of people reading, but not making comments.

Most businesses recognize some employees have some behavior issues that show up under stress. They wish they could document them to identify a trend which would render the person a liability and not an asset regardless how "good" they perform at the basic job.
That said the company in this case NHRA depends on signed notes from individuals to place in the employee file. Then if there is a trend developing they can address the issues.
Send the info on the incident stating only facts not opinions or color comments to NHRA or Len Imbrogno or .... for their attention. I know they should appreciate the documentation. I think the racer in question should sign it and have a person who witnessed the incident also report it.

Dick Butler 3529

What should be done for the racer? They were disrespected and called out in front of their peers. This is no way to treat anyone...


I understand filing, but thats all??

At best being an adult maybe the racer will accept an apology if offered. Beyond that ..... That would be the best result.

Dick Butler 3529

Don't be so thin-skinned, get over it!
If the racer was in the tower and was not called there he was plainly trying to make more of the incident then was called for!




Later, Bill Koski

What if the racer was directed to the tower by personnel to get an answer for the question...

Thin skinned...interesting...

What question?
Wasn't he the one that was complaining, if he was from the community he should know how to get to the track so it would appear he was trying to create a problem when it did not pertain to him!

Later, Bill Koski

No it was an out of state racer, he was directed to the tower to ask a race question to the track manager... That's when the blow up insued....

Time for an old fashioned *** kickin ?

I'll 2nd that T HALL

Bryan
s/g & s/p 120
s/st & s/c 1219

WAY TO SLIM ON THE INFO TO EXPECT A RESPONCE OR OPINION!!! WHAT ARE YOU NOT TELLING US?? I SEE YOU JUST REGISTERED UNDER A DOUBLE SECRET NAME OF CONCERNED!! LOL SPILL IT OR ZIP IT !!!

What info is slim, other the track, the racing body and the name of the individual involved...

Remember in a court, it is the simple facts......

Move man... Some people have to be kept quite to protect the innocent....

Does anyone really give a ****?

Asta

Would hate for it to happen to you?

But then again maybe your girlfriend, wife or even better yet your daughter, and then we will see...

Were you happy the last time the drive thru screwed up your food, you did something about it right..... Why? cause you paid and you want what you paid for....


ASTA--you by far had the worst input... thanks for writing..

Would you like cheese with that whine?

Asta

ASTA, can you please send some time reviewing other one liners, so that you might be more original than the late 90's....


Note to self... watch some more old movies to copy lines to try and be cleaver...

Ever heard of Mapquest????????
If I want to find out how to get somewhere it is at my fingertips!
In fact last Thursday I stopped on the shouder of I-15 and checked the directions to California Speedway because I forgot which exit to use!
It appears to me somebody got a bee in their bonnet over nothing and ended up making an *** of themselves!

Later, Bill Koski

ASTA, can you please send some time reviewing other one liners, so that you might be more original than the late 90's....


Note to self... watch some more old movies to copy lines to try and be cleaver...

Bill, totally agree, directions and Dept of Trans signs were off....

at 11 at night on a country road, with no road lights ... the circumstances far weigh out the bee in the bonnet... No *** was made....

i appreciate the inquiry...

this is not a case of self inflicted wounds..

concerned,

i'm concerned too. i'm concerned that this thread got any responses at all. i'm with asta ,i don't give a **** either.

I can't believe this CRAP, either spill the beans on the track, officials,sanctioning body. Just please dont ask for input if your not ready for any and all results. JDEE&ASTA I'm with you guys who gives a -----.

HEY THUMBPRINT, GIVE ME SOME CREDIT TOO FOR TELLING MR. CONCERNED THAT HE NEEDS TO **** THE BEANS OR WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT HIS BELLYACHE!! I WAS CONCERNED THIS WEEKEND TOO!! 300+ MILES FROM HOME "VMP" , CALLING 2ND RND WHILE OTHERS ARE RUNNING FINALS "DIV 1" ABOUT 7:00 P.M. YEAH, CONCERNED IF I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT HOME FROM THE TRACK ! BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A FEDERAL CASE OUT OF IT!! DIDN'T MAKE IT BACK TILL NEXT MORNING LIKE ALOT OF RACERS! HOPE EVERYONE ARRIVED SAFE !

MOVEMAN you got it, I'm gonna sit back and see if MR.CONCERNED is gonna spill. We all need to know.

i got home from vmp at 5:30 in the morning and went to work . what incident is this guy talking about?[:-confused2-:]

s/g 1620

TANK "YOU" ARE THE MAN !!! I WOULD HAVE BEEN 3:30 OR SO BUT I STOPPED AND SLEPT ABOUT 5 HRS. OF COURSE, I DIDN'T HAVE THE ADRENALINE YOU HAD AFTER SLAYING THE WORLD CHAMP !!! LOL ALL I HAD WAS A BIG ? OF WTF IS WRONG WITH MY RIDE !! TALKED TO ET TRANSMISSIONS, GOT TO TALK TO THE BIG CHEESE-YOU KNOW "E"- SEEMS TRANS AND CONVERTER ARE OK !! .005 & .013 MADE ME THINK THEY WERE!! THINK I KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED! WILL TALK TO YOU BOUT IT, IF YOU GET DONE ON SAT. AT M/D COME TO A BIG PARTY AT MY PLACE ON SUN. !!! MIDDLE DAUGHTER "LISA" GRAD. FROM ST. JOE'S !! I KNOW IT'S MOM'S DAY BUT IF JEN IS WITH YOU COME ON DOWN OR UP ?? THE HOT TUB IS 104*, PLENTY OF BEER, AND THE BOYS CAN DO MARSHMALLOWS ON THE FIRE PIT! GOOD LUCK AT M/D !!! TAKE EM ALL OUT DOWN THERE !!

AND OJ GOT KICKED OUT OF A STEAKHOUSE! EVERYONE IS GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK NOWADAYS!

Not knowing all the facts it hard to say who was out of line, but the race track manager is a little like an umpire in baseball it doesn't matter he wrong or wright what he says goes. The unhappy racer only has two choices, tolernce or take his race car and his monies elseware.

hey rich , i decided not to go to md because the weather didnt look so good for saturday. i have plans for sunday , so i know they would have finished the race on sunday.

s/g 1620

Just because a guy owns a track, is a track manager, or he is a promoter doesn't mean he cares about how a racer is treated (or disrespected). There are a few lousy ones out there.

I could picture this scenario happening at Maple Grove???

Just my two cents......


Larry Geddes