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Larry Hill 12-03-2009 09:33 PM

Hp For Christmas
 
What combos will be hit and by how much?

X-TECH MAN 12-03-2009 09:43 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 154549)
What combos will be hit and by how much?

Lets leave the HP alone for now and just take a full second off of the indexes.....LOL.

283SS 12-03-2009 09:49 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
my bet is SS 283 gets 2 or 3 HP

Jeff Lee 12-04-2009 01:13 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
I heard the 426 Hemi NASCAR 400 HP just got a 2.25% hit or 80#'s...Now if NHRA implements a .500 reduction on all indexes...?

Chris1529 12-04-2009 07:58 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
I heard AMC's will be able to run indy aluminum heads next year with a 5 hp penalty

Jim Storms 12-04-2009 09:53 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 154584)
I heard the 426 Hemi NASCAR 400 HP just got a 2.25% hit or 80#'s...Now if NHRA implements a .500 reduction on all indexes...?

Jeff!! Do even race anymore??

stefan callender 12-04-2009 10:33 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 154553)
Lets leave the HP alone for now and just take a full second off of the indexes.....LOL.

What is the point of this???

S.E. Buchanan 12-04-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Stefan:

It is a joke. Merry Christmas to all.

S.E.

X-TECH MAN 12-04-2009 11:00 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stefan callender (Post 154627)
What is the point of this???

It was a joke.....most of you on this site take this thing called drag racing way to serious. Its not life and death....Its supposed to be fun and if it is not you should find something else to do with your money and time. Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Steve Hagberg 12-04-2009 11:24 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
You're right Jeff, the NASCAR Hemi will get 10 hp and 80 lbs. According to an NHRA official the new indexes and the second half HP review will be posted today on nhra.com.

Jeff Lee 12-04-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Storms (Post 154614)
Jeff!! Do even race anymore??

NO! I sometimes go for a visit and see my car at the shop. It's all apart. Sometimes I'll grab a part that's being replaced and put it up for sale. The block is actually getting decked today! Whoopee!

I better put a set of Indy heads on Santa's wish list!

Larry Hill 12-04-2009 09:32 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Steve,
All is not lost. If we do the math down South 2.25% of 400 is Nine or only 72 lbs. After looking 2.25% of 430 is 9.675 Hp. or 10 Hp.

Larry

283SS 12-04-2009 09:54 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
jeff Lee dont race anymore He just talks alot like Don K

The Hawk 12-05-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
What`s happening to the indexes?

7423 12-05-2009 04:49 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane M Weber (Post 154882)
What`s happening to the indexes?

$10 says the indexs do not change
$20 says lots of HP will change

Paul Hellenberg 12-05-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
[QUOTE=7423;154883]$10 says the indexs do not change

Better be careful on the index not happening.

http://classracer.com/classforum/ima...ons/icon10.gif

Don Kennedy 12-05-2009 06:21 PM

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Jeff Lee 12-05-2009 06:53 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 283SS (Post 154774)
jeff Lee dont race anymore He just talks alot like Don K

Your right! Funny that Don and I are friends. We have that in common. Just like we both use our names when slingin' ****!

Bub Whitaker 12-05-2009 08:41 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 154895)
Your right! Funny that Don and I are friends. We have that in common. Just like we both use our names when slingin' ****!

Never noticed any slingin' of ****!

Adger Smith 12-05-2009 10:00 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
I would suspect quite a few of us racers NEED Extra HP to pull the extra weight WE have picked up in this Holiday Season... Yum-Yum Good !!

Jim Storms 12-06-2009 12:26 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 154924)
I would suspect quite a few of us racers NEED Extra HP to pull the extra weight WE have picked up in this Holiday Season... Yum-Yum Good !!

so all of you thinking who or who needs to get H.P. then who should.???... all year long some of you sit here and worry about that... maybe if those of you who are so worried should protect your own and not worry about others..stop thinking about it and let it happen,,, who cares... we will find a way accomodate our selves to race at the next race anyway,,, how many years has this gone on........JUST DEAL WITH IT AND SHUT UP!!!!!

Jeff Teuton 12-06-2009 06:36 PM

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Charlie, I will take the $10 on index changes.

Bryan Worner 12-06-2009 07:54 PM

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I'm predicting indexes will be dropped by 3 tenths!!!

442OLDS 12-06-2009 08:02 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Maybe the indexes will be raised.The last thing that Stock and Super Stock Eliminator needs is a few less cars.Lowering the index more than two tenths will definately result in even smaller fields.Maybe only a few cars,but at some races,track owners need all of the participation that they can get.

I'll go $4.42 cents on two tenths.Any more than that and its just another nail in the coffin for SS/S.

Tony Janes 12-06-2009 08:05 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 155095)
I'm predicting indexes will be dropped by 3 tenths!!!

The rumor is 3 tenths. This has more to do with making AHFS easier to manage rather than a penalty to a few slow cars.

Dyno 12-06-2009 09:39 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
The SS/AH cars just got hit .15, no more for me please! Dyno

Michael Beard 12-07-2009 08:27 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 155103)
The rumor is 3 tenths. This has more to do with making AHFS easier to manage rather than a penalty to a few slow cars.

Heh? :confused: "Easier to manage"? It's all relative... it's just a barometer.

It sure is easier for them to move the index .30 than it is to pick the car up .30. I'd rather they hit my combination with 10HP than move the indexes!

Billy Nees 12-07-2009 09:19 AM

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[QUOTE=Michael Beard; I'd rather they hit my combination with 10HP than move the indexes![/QUOTE]

Michael, no you don't.
Well, now that I'm on the subject, I think that to "Drop the Indexes" correctly, the NHRA needs to look at its AHFS data and "drop" some indexes more than others. The upper classes (minus AA and A) seem to be "running away" from most of the lower class (or "no class" or "cheap *** sack of class" or maybe "lazy dirtbag no class")cars. If they are going to change them then maybe it's time to "bring things in line" a bit. Come to think of it, it would help the upper class (or "d**k swingers class" or "all I do is work on my car because I don't have a life class" or maybe "my accountant said that I have to spend a lot of money"class) cars stay away from the horsepower triggers without hurting the "bottom feeders" (lowlife scum that they are). Not to leave out SS, maybe look at the "hood scoop" cars vs. everyone else.
Hey, that felt good! Billy

Chad Rhodes 12-07-2009 09:36 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 155167)
Michael, no you don't.
Well, now that I'm on the subject, I think that to "Drop the Indexes" correctly, the NHRA needs to look at its AHFS data and "drop" some indexes more than others. The upper classes (minus AA and A) seem to be "running away" from most of the lower class (or "no class" or "cheap *** sack of class" or maybe "lazy dirtbag no class")cars. If they are going to change them then maybe it's time to "bring things in line" a bit. Come to think of it, it would help the upper class (or "d**k swingers class" or "all I do is work on my car because I don't have a life class" or maybe "my accountant said that I have to spend a lot of money"class) cars stay away from the horsepower triggers without hurting the "bottom feeders" (lowlife scum that they are). Not to leave out SS, maybe look at the "hood scoop" cars vs. everyone else.
Hey, that felt good! Billy

you know Billy, not all of us with an upper class car fit those descrptions, you shouldn't pait with such a broad brush. I for one would not like to see our indexes dropped as the Cobra Jets and Challengers will be able to run that much faster

art leong 12-07-2009 09:37 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 155167)
Michael, no you don't.
Well, now that I'm on the subject, I think that to "Drop the Indexes" correctly, the NHRA needs to look at its AHFS data and "drop" some indexes more than others. The upper classes (minus AA and A) seem to be "running away" from most of the lower class (or "no class" or "cheap *** sack of class" or maybe "lazy dirtbag no class")cars. If they are going to change them then maybe it's time to "bring things in line" a bit. Come to think of it, it would help the upper class (or "d**k swingers class" or "all I do is work on my car because I don't have a life class" or maybe "my accountant said that I have to spend a lot of money"class) cars stay away from the horsepower triggers without hurting the "bottom feeders" (lowlife scum that they are). Not to leave out SS, maybe look at the "hood scoop" cars vs. everyone else.
Hey, that felt good! Billy


Billy I "resemble" that remark. I have a hood scoop the doubles as a parachute. LOL

Billy Nees 12-07-2009 09:56 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Chad, I thought that I pretty well "Zinged" everybody! Well, maybe not those "low life rat bastard" Pro Tree slugs! We should hit their indexes at least a second!

Adger Smith 12-07-2009 10:33 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Billy..
Well, maybe not those "low life rat bastard" Pro Tree slugs! We should hit their indexes at least a second!

OH! Don's class

Billy Nees 12-07-2009 10:39 AM

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[QUOTE=Adger Smith;

OH! Don's class[/QUOTE]

Good one Adger!

Chad Rhodes 12-07-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 155173)
Chad, I thought that I pretty well "Zinged" everybody! Well, maybe not those "low life rat bastard" Pro Tree slugs! We should hit their indexes at least a second!

yea, you did. I just know a lot of people actually feel that way, both about the lower class cars and the upper class cars

Don Kennedy 12-07-2009 02:19 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
LOL a Adger a good one

Jim Kaekel 12-08-2009 11:11 AM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
We'll probably be waiting until Friday for any news from NHRA regarding horsepower or index changes. I think NHRA tends to follow the thinking of corporate America, like the way people are fired on Friday. The Friday announcements tend to cut down on those annoying, angry phone calls and e-mails.

Adger Smith 12-08-2009 11:28 AM

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Don,
I thought you would enjoy that one.. :~)
Now, If I can only come up with something smart A** about your
Hood Scoop thread... Aye!

X-TECH MAN 12-08-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 155412)
We'll probably be waiting until Friday for any news from NHRA regarding horsepower or index changes. I think NHRA tends to follow the thinking of corporate America, like the way people are fired on Friday. The Friday announcements tend to cut down on those annoying, angry phone calls and e-mails.

They will let everyone know on Christmas eve and they wont be back in the office untiil Jan 2nd.

davidhaag 12-11-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Hp For Christmas
 
My son Ryan drives ours SS/EA 68 Camaro and does a very good job. This year at Indy Nationals our car qualified #128 and we were very proud to make the field. The point that I want to make, I have many parts that are 29+ years old technology. I have ask NHRA for 5HP(not that I know we will get it) to make us more competitive without spending $15/20K to update these items just to go faster. Not every racing would agree with me about the Automatic HP Factoring System, but it sets the destiny of how much money the racer wants to spend. Stock and Super Stock is considered the sportsman category that was originally to be affordable to race. Changing Indexes by lowering as some would like just makes everything start over again. Other racers who feel that it is tough to be competitive with their combination email NHRA for HP. I know Stock and Super Stock takes a lot of time to control rule enforcement and with the cut backs NHRA have made on staff will make even more difficult. I just wish (me racing Super Stock since 1967) that the rules were not so flexible and products being accepted that Not what the category represents…
David Haag


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