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The secod half adjustments are posted on the NHRA Lucas Oil site. No mention of the all encompassing index change.

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I must be confused again...I cant find it ?

Do you have a link ?

Cheers

Chris

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http://www.nhra.net/content/sportsma...9428&zoneid=85
http://www.nhra.net/content/sportsma...9429&zoneid=85

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Thanks.....ugh...a 5 horse hit as I expected.......QW#$%^&*(*@!)$ and all about 4 of the cars ran last year......nice.....

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I haven't been keeping numbers But the only Ford to get hit was 45 year old car.
Who would have thunk it.
As they used to say on SNL. "Isn't that special" LOL

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Yeah, how many Challengers broke indexes apart ? How many SCJ ? Or where the SCJ hit with a 1.4 over immediate ?

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...And who is even running a 64 Thunderbolt 427 with an automatic in S/S? Let alone running quick enough to get HP?

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The message to Ford Racers are clear : Spend your money on the new cars or we will make you! LoL

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Both auto/manual Fords are at 439hp now.

The LS1 flat hood F bodies got a 2.25% hit, now at 373hp, the LS1 (same motor) 2004 GTO is looking better all the time at 340hp.

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The 2004 GTO rated at 340 is an absolute joke.

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33hp difference for body style? Yet 68-69 Chevelle still gets adjusted the same as Camaro and Chevy II? Gee, thanks....

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Oh boy, the CJ's are at 439. The single-4 bbl "Nascar" Hemi got whacked with 10 hp and is actually rated higher than the CJ now. All this AFTER it was outrun at Indy. Guess that leaves the Drag Pak as the only non-CJ combo that has a prayer in AA/SA.

While I do feel that the AHFS can be effective, a little human input to correct the obvious HP rating flaws would be nice too.

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never mind.

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I was wondering the same thing. Must have missed that one.

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The 5 HP hit also means that 6.1 auto dragpak owners can only do AA or A, B gone.

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The general consensus among people I know is the Chevelle is at least .05 or more slower just in the body size, wheelbase, suspension, etc.
Just need to work harder or spend more money I guess?

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Mark, you are right on... I've been trying to tell the guys at NHRA exactly this for 2 years but they don't hear me. You can work harder and spend more money, I have (LOL) but at the end of it all you'll still be down that same .05. I can't tell you how many people have told me no matter how good I get my car working it's not going to run with the Camaro's. Your point is exactly why!

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You have to be kidding me? Really? I think most guys on here are concerned with the fact that that their combos may have been hit. Now they have to go spend more money to go as fast as they used to. Nothing to do with whatever you are talking about.

Ryan Horensky
C/SA 1273

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There hasn't been a 64 Thunderbolt automatic car make a pass during a national event since probably 1966. According to the latest (today) classification guide they (NHRA) must have intended to specifically hit just the T-bolts using the "Dove" aluminum heads and even then only the manual transmission cars. The iron head manual combination was not hit and the automatics with "Dove" heads or iron heads were not affected. Maybe Ford is paving the way for the CJ Mustang "Super Stock" 2010 version especially since the "display" car had SS/BA painted on it's windows at the press introduction.

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Dallas is right. The Class Guide has everything posted correctly reflecting the horsepower increase on the Thunderbolts using DOVE head Hi Riser 427 with manual transmission only. The mistake is only in the info posted on the NHRA.com list that shows horsepower changes. That list will be corrected as it has been pointed out to NHRA.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

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I think it was a typo concerning the thunderbolts getting horsepower as an automatic. Paul Adams was #1 qualifier at Reading and I think he may have infractioned somewhere else too. His combo is a SS/B Thunderbolt. That's the combo I would assume the horsepower was intended for.

Ryan Horensky
1273 C/SA

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I need to correct myself. At some point in the late seventies Harold Stout made a few trial runs in the Stout/Spain (Glidden) T-bolt utilizing an automatic; just testing the waters. However I don't recall that they ever competed at a national event with the automatic.

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Then the 12-1 compression, .580" lift, 300 cfm+, 5.7 Hemi must be the king of all jokers - rated at only 305hp? - wait 'till that one shows up in E/SA

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Travis there seems to be mulitple mistakes in NHRAs listings
I don't know the other cases. But if anyone else has a WTF moment contact them
It worked for me.

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There`s only one person responsible for the hit on the Firebird.Tell him I said Merry Christmas!

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Adam,
I will be happy to pass on your Christmas greeting to the party concerned.

And Daniel you don't have a clue!!

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NHRA must have made a mistake with my combo too. At Indy, running with everything I had I could only run a 10.05 against Holzman in the semi-final while I watched him lift about 4-5 times in front of me and he still ran a 9.92 @ 127.69. Running .04 slower in qualifying he ran 133.94 MPH. That was probably lifting too. What a joke.:mad: The new cars should be in a whole different class.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
595 Chad Holzman 1990 David Barton
C3 ****WINNER**** 0.104 9.927 127.69 0.067 10.057 130.23
A/SA Index: 11.30 (+/-): -1.373 A/SA Index: 11.30 (+/-): -1.243
Prior rounds:
Qualified: #1 9.968 133.94 #2 9.973 NS

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which car were u running david? the car i ran in virginia lifited at the 1000 foot and went 1.43 under that was fast 2

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You didn't know David??? You're just supposed to "work harder on your stuff." *rolls eyes*

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Ty, LOL

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Thank you Leo for laying it on the line. Run her out and let the rest catch up.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA ain't skeered of no AHFS

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I almost literally LOL'd

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No mistake....they just wanna make sure no others are really close..because then the CJ's could loose on driving errors or have to use up aut HP to win!

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sounds like i hit a nerve.
get a life jerk!

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Way to go Leo!!

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what is AT, is that auto, or all trans?
the only one on there I know is the T-bolt, thats a stick obviously.
cw

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Auto Trans

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David: The run at 10.04 against Holtzman wasn't the problem as you well know. When I talked to you following your first qualifying pass at Indy and you showed me your 9.97 timeslip, I said " you're not going to do that again are you?" and you replied "sure, why not?" And you did at least two times more, once against Les Norton. Don't act surprised. that you didn't know this was coming. This was intentional on your part and I'm sure you know it. Have fun with your new Drag Pak Callenger.