Why is there NO '09 IHRA Stock & S/S World Points Champion ???
 

I've looked everywhere there is to look on the IHRA website and for the life of me I can't even find the Top-50 point standings for Stock/S/s much less who ended up being crowned the '09 World points Champion in IHRA Stock & S/s??? Does IHRA now only have World Points Champions in the Pro catagorys or what's the deal anyone know???

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Myron...a IHRA Tournament of Champions your kidding right??? That's gotta be the dumbest thing IHRA has come up with yet to date isn't it?? The only way to crown or determine the World Champion is by points...the driver who has the most points at the end of the season in both Stock/S/s is crowned the IHRA '09 World Champion right ?? That's the way it's been done since the begining of time seems like it's always worked out pretty good that way why on earth would they change it now??? No wonder IHRA only gets 1/3 the amount of cars at a event compaired to NHRA lol !!!

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NHRA used to do it the same way.

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That was announced and continued to be promoted since about a year ago! It has its plusses & minuses. But I believe the main idea was to keep more people showing up through the end of the season by providing an opportunity for a shot at the World Championship for everyone through the end of the season without having to travel as much. With the bad economy, it's difficult to say how much it help or hurt car counts. But it was enough to IHRA Sportsman racing going.

http://ihra.com/article/4143.html

You need to keep up with the IHRA news.

NHRA use to do something similar many years ago with their World Finals being an "invitational" for the championship. It may have been like that in 1980 when I went to NHRA's FIRST ET Bracket World Championship race at the World Finals in Ontario, CA! Both bracket programs are similar now also.

Pay attention class i'm going to ask questions later lol
 

Guys pay attention & don't shoot the messenger because he speaks the truth.....the key thing to remember here is that NHRA "use to do it"....THEY DON'T DO IT THAT WAY NOW !!! Want to know why?? IT DIDN'T WORK that's why hello!!!! Myron are you telling me that if your in 1st place in Stock World points most of the entire season and got the next closest guy beat by 8 rounds points going into the last event of the year...then went to this Tourament of Champions deal & lost 1st rd. you'ed be happy NOT BEING THE WORLD CHAMPION??? Come on I don't buy that why on earth doesn't everyone complain to the IHRA brass big wigs & explain to them how stupid this is????

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I think by the current way, a racer could run one race and win it, and win the tournament at the end of the year and be champion, right?

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IHRA is FAR (VERY FAR) from being a "perfect organization",but how else could they crown a "World Champ"?
If they went to a format where you take your best 3 of 6 Nationals like NHRA,there probably wouldn't be more than 10 total people in the running for the "World Championship".
They don't have races any where near over half of the United States.
I know this isn't the best way to do it,but lets hear some better ideas.

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For starters, the racers that support the divisions should be the only one's to have a shot at the "world championship" and not a one -shot wonder. Secondly, w/ all of the sports nationals they've set up now it's much easier to get national event points...still they could drop back to the best 2 of 3 nationals or something along those lines plus your divisonal points. Just my .02

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I did say that the concept had its plusses and minuses. The examples you and mbrace5 gave would naturally be very frustrating, especially after doing it the other way ever since I started. But everyone is in the same boat. I don't make the rules, just follow them if I want to race. But "right now" IHRA feels that this will help keep sportsman racing viable for them and 2010 should give the final answer. As others have brought up, the geographic locations and economy make it difficult for more than the same dozen or dozen & a 1/2 people to be able to race for it. So it does provide more opportunities.

I also like Tracy's suggestion to minimize "one shot wonders".

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What defines a "one shot wonder"?


If the "Tournament of Champions" were finished to completion,my pick would have been Scotty Richardson.

If he had won,would he be known as a "one shot wonder"?

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By "one shot wonder" I mean a racer who goes to one "qualifying" race all year, basically not supporting the series at all otherwise, winning, then potentially winning the World Championship. It doesn't matter if its a hitter, veteran or beginner. I think that's the biggest complaint. But on the other hand, this format does provide opportunities to those who can't afford to travel enough under the old format. Just having some type of minimum attendance requirement, something between the current "one" and the old div. and nat. minimums, might be better. (Just my opinion.)

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I have to agree here. A racer who wins less than a ten rounds whould not be World Champ. I do not know how many rounds there is at the TOC, but there were 3 rounds in Tulsa in Stock and the winner qualifyed. I do not remember who won, but I would not think there would be more than 7 rounds in the TOC so *if* the winner was this guy thats all he would have to win. Thats not right I don't care how good the guy is. I can understand the folks wanting to make it more exciting, but world champs should be more than that.

btw Mike Cotton was the winner with 6 cars there in stock. I know the guy is a great driver and has a great car, but less then a dozen rounds does not deserve a world championship.

Steve Prado
Rudy, AR

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" If " , ,just " if" Scotty was to win he would be a one shot wonder because in records shown he was the only qualifier that only went to only one race and qualified and never went again til the TOC final race,.Bet ya'll didn't know that did you ? I agree there should be a minimum participent requirments to be in the TOC. I don't make the rules either ,just try to enforce them.

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Sid,
Have you been under a Rock the last year.DDUUUHHHH.

At first I did'nt like the new format, but now I love it. How awesome would it be to be crowned WORLD CHAMP after defeating the top 20 or so drivers in a head to head 1 race shootout.
I do think there needs to be a minimum number of races participated in to qualify.

I would'nt call Scotty a one hit wonder. Was'nt he T/D world champ last year?

What a Joke
 

Danny are you saying that it's possible that Scotty Richardson might end up being the 2009 IHRA World Champion and he only raced at one IHRA event the whole season ???

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Yep ,except for the sportsnational on friday at the TOC race in which he was running stock and could have possibly won that and qualified for a stock TOC that weekend.

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If a guy from Minnesota were to attend the Byron,IL Sportsnationals and win it in his only race of the year,he then could be World Champ by winning the Tournament.If he only races twice a year and wins both races,I think he did pretty good.Maybe not a World Champ to some,but those are the current rules.

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I think IHRA did that so people like Sid would have something to bitch about!!!

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I do think this was all explained in the beginning of 2009 before the season started ? I agree with Chip and others that it gave others who couldn't afford to attend 6-8 races a chance to win... Do you think NHRA
and Nascar shootout's had anything to do with IHRA using it... Yes, and it has made things very interesting .... I think it will get even better this year if Scotty Wins.... Why should you have to travel thousands of miles if you don't have too... I do think they should look at a min. of 2/3 races for the year going forward........... Time will tell, but those are the RULES ...

Merry Xmas & Happy New Year to all....

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I had a little chat with Skooter about this and he kinda made me feel like if you don't like it....too bad :rolleyes:

Ok....if you don't attend four divisionals'; you loose your points at the end of the year, but you can theoretically race two races and be a national champion....Sorry, doesn't work for me :confused:

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Bret Kepner would probably know.