The fastest car by class your vote
 

It is going to be a long winter so just who has the fastest car in its class your vote.Lets start with the slowest to the fastest. V stick and auto then SS/p and auto and work are way up or a and up how everyou what to do it. Tom

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You should read your rule book Sir V/S, and SS/P are not the slowest classes in either eliminator.

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V/S Jack Larson's screamin' Ford.

V/SA Tight race. I think McNeal Freeman's 262 Caprice has the most potential, but
Jim Mantle's Pacer seems to be constistently fast as does Mike Jeffrey's
Dodge taxi cab, and Griffis Jr's 173 Pontiac is right there too. Gotta go
with Mantle Pac(er)ing the pack for now though.

Jerry

PS: Tom, Good idea to help pass the time through the coming Winter Storm.

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OK Art, we can take care of that in quick fashion.

W/S - no contest - Ellis Buth
W/SA Again, no contest. Gerald Nivens with the newer 140 Ford.

DF/S- No contest - Nicole Stephenson's 3.8 Olds

EF/S - Ron Scibenick's Topaz outran Polhill at the US Nats, although it's hard to tell
from day-to-day with those little engines.

Any disagreements on any of these slower than V stockers anyone? AF, BF, & CF are all faster than V. If not we're back to V/S & V/SA in stock.

Jerry

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should i bite on this game (looking in my book at who is really the fastest in class)

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This sounds like a "mine is bigger than yours thread" :~)
Can those of us who get Joe's Stats cheat and look the runs up?
I bet that would spoil the fun.
Is the next tread going to be about reacton times?

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Adger, It'll probably be a "my buddy's thing is bigger than yours" deal. "Nitro" doesn't have every run in NHRA for 2009, and everyone has a buddy whose been sandbaggin'. Wait until we get to the populated classes!

Jerry

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I don't think you would want to rely on Joe's specs here. You might have to use a little "inside baseball" for the correct answers.

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Mark....lol........your subtle humor made me laugh.. for those who dont catch the drift, ive seen what Mark`s mustang is capable of in V/SA

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Maybe just national event times

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I think I may know what kind of car is fastest in AA/SA....

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Mark, Jerry,
I feel you guys are right on.. The Sand baggers real performance don't show up in Joe's stats. Most of them don't expose themselves or show their potential, except in testing or an occasional Class Run. It might be interesting to see how this tread plays out in relation to Joe's stats. Mark... how about "Inside, not Curve"?

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Adger, Maybe we can keep this going until after the last weekend in January, and update it then. That was a change up.

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I know the fastest SS/IA car is sitting in my garage!!! The car is undefeated in heads up runs!!!

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Hey Mark, Wanna race title for title?

P.S My thing is definitely bigger than yours.

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My money is on Joe,Nitro's stats may not show everything but I'd say Joe has the incrementals he needs to estimate how fast some cars could go. It's not to hard to figure out when you look at MPH during elims. you've got higher classed cars running 10-20 mph slow for their ET.and it's not hard to figure out who dials soft when they run dead on to .01-.02 above and MPH varies 5-10MPH.over 5-6 rounds.I must stink at driving cause I only run consistent flat out,and I can't judge to tighten up to .003 at the stripe,maybe there is special brakes that scrub off all that MPH without changing ET,LOL
Mike Taylor3601

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Scroll down the U.S. Nationals Class Winner list to find the fastest in each class. Everybody else talks big with fish stories....

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Friendly racer,

That's a good theory but hardly true. With over 800 superstockers in the country and only 160-170 entered at Indy I'd be willing to bet that some of the 600+ not entered could easily give some of the class winners a run. I can think of of a few that weren't at Indy this year.

Rick

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Maybe . How about at the Mile High?

First you'll have to set the record and go through teardown, so we'll know what that thing is worth.

I'll try to leave you a few hundredths to work with.

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Gee wiz Mark, Denver? Nope, I was thinking the winter nats :-), And I have set the record and been thru teardown (aug @ Portland national open). It would be nice of you to let me have a tenth or so at the tree though. I assume you will be driving right? Should we go best two out of three? Any one wanna make a side bet?

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I don't think the Winters would be a good idea. Somebody would end up with two U/SA cars.
I didn't know you set the record. That might be news to several other people:

V/SA 14.51 09/26/09 Mike Jeffrey - Lexington, NE
'80 Dodge Pierre, SD
V/SA 92.21 04/19/08 Norman Griffis - Johnston, SC
'84 Pontiac Cecil, GA

How about an unofficial poll, right here:

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hey mark does your sled still fit v/s ??? if so he has the fastest v/s if not ...
wild bill andrews and the venerable "witch doctor" gets the nod... even though he hasnt run in last few years car is still there has gone over -1.15 on old indexes and has fresh motor.

u/s see above - yacavone
u/sa ... king kong... bob the caddy shaw hands down fastest car in class and in the country vs indexes including the new mustangs... ill bet $$$$ on a showdown :)

jack mccarthy

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OK Steve, thanks for the info. That's what this thread is all about; braggin' rights with a little honesty thrown in.

Jerry

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JRyan
Bragging rights, Ha I got braging rights. I hammered Bob Shaw at the tree (albiet he was having major ignition problems) by .900 His Caddy is the fastest under the index car in the country. I was so far ahead I could see his front bumper. Now thats some bragging rights.

Jack, now don't you go picking on these unknowledgeable individuals. Betting money on somebody while holding back a couple of seconds, I mean tenths.

Other than Bob, you have got some serious players for U/SA:
Myers, Remmington, Wright, Lacy, McCarthy, Tolson, Nees, Wong, Yacavone, I can't remember his name but the green Nova from FL, Koopman, Hardy, and anybody else that I am not aware of.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA oh! I forgot, Bob passed me in second gear and I watched his scoreboard light up.

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"Ron Ortiz
U/SA oh! I forgot, Bob passed me in second gear and I watched his scoreboard light up. "
__________________
Truth is you DIDN'T forget, only WANTED TO forget... HA!

Sorry Ron,
I just couldn't resist that one!!

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Jerry, btw, I Do have every run every person has made at a NHRA National event, divisional or National open in 2009, all you see in my stats book is everybody's best runs

BTW, No I'm not it was double the amount of work to try to figure out the system, I'm retired till end of Jan. lol

I put a lot of time and hours and think and try to do the best job i know how to.

And the sand bagging deal, i laugh when i look at the mph's at times when i get the stuff.

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No you don't Joe,
You don't have any from the National Open at Oahe Speedway. Monty Jones and Mike Jeffery both set records there. I don't know if it was their fastest runs of the year. But, I made my only runs of the year in SS/NA and I'm not listed in SS/NA and Kandra Vallani ran our SS/MA car and she's not in there either.

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Phillip set the 1/8th mile record.

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SS/PA is it Garza or Schmidt, Mans or Bogner in SS/CS both good match ups.

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shaw passed me twice on the same run... and i went -1.15

anyone top that... i crown him king !

jack

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Bob IS "The King" let me know where and when the coronation is please! I'd like to be there.

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Hold on Billy,Artie has/had a Caravan that might throw a fly in the ointment.How a bout it Artie?

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Artie had a Plymouth Acclaim (Dodge Spirit) that ran -2.04 under the index. He is the king!

BTW That is the same car I had until this year and after being hit no less that 4 times I still ran -1.73 under! Jim

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Hold on now.

This is from the Belle Rose CIC race last march
U/SA, 15.15 index>

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
5159 Robert Shaw 5600 Michael Mans
E3 0.251 13.030 99.03 ****WINNER**** 0.053 9.556 104.04
U/SA Index: 14.04 (+/-): -1.010 SS/CS Index: 10.50 (+/-): -0.944
Prior rounds:
E2 (C Downing ) 0.477 13.036 -1.514 (N Morris ) 0.041 9.492 -1.158
E1 (P Courts ) 0.235 13.549 -1.601 (M Alvey ) 0.040 9.905 -0.745
Qualified: #99 No Time

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Ed
Artie sold the van last I heard.

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I think Ed is refering to the CF/S Caravan that is owned by Bill Howell. He still owns it.

Yac, I know about that run, I was there, however it was not official. It was the CIC race. NHRA did not, and does not recognize that race. It's like a weekly bracket race. Jim

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I never raced the van at an NHRA event. I broke the trans and junked it. It was cool as a tow car though.

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Were you the guy with the Yellowish Turbo Caravan 5 speed years ago ?

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No. That might have been Cliff Sebring. the one I had was faded blue 2.5 turbo automatic, it was great to have a spare motor with me all the time LOL

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I hear that, the SRT8 isnt going with us for looks in the pit.....ok part of it is and food runs, but weve already talked and need be weve got a spare block and head castings......then well....as the other parts go back on the SRT8, I can just see the Service department of the Dodge Dealership when we take a mangled SRT8 in for warranty service with "race broken" bits.... now..."I dono my service manager, my wife was driving it and it just died".....lol