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Check this out
http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/1/21/...-zmax-dragway/

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How long will it take to clean up four lanes at one time.???????

Hammer

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When I first heard about Charlotte and 4 lanes I said "Huh" then the person that told me, "Yeah think about it, run even with oildowns, keep it moving" Cleaning 1 running the other, or lapping and alternating....Cool....in that case Duh, its one of the best simple, stupid simple Ideas Ive heard in a long time...Keep the action moving,

BUT am I the only one (im sure Im not) that thinks if were talking about running 4 at the same time it has potential for a Nascar style Pile Up ?

I think this is going to end badly at some point, for 4 instead of 2.....

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After visiting there for the Z-MAXX inagural event, I feel that there's too much distance between 1 pr. of lanes and the other 2 to see 4 lane race action from a spectator's view, even if you're at the highest point in the stands--either side....maybe they're thinking of impressing the tv audiences :confused: I liked the 4 lane idea for 1 side clean-up operation to continue race action, (no down-time) but now, 4 cars racing at once just seems like another circus type notion being stuffed down the racers' and fans' throats. (by a NASCAR guy,??) Please, grass-roots, 2-at-a-time drag racing is best for everyone--racers and fans....my 2 cents. :) WJ

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Drooze, no possibility of a Nascar style pile up; you have to understand how Z-max is constructed. Think of it as 2 "complete" dragstrips side by side because you have a retaining wall between the 2 cars racing on the right and the 2 cars racing on the left. I attended both of the Nat. events that have been run there, so I saw the 4 wide TF and FC exhibitions last Sept.; and I will be there in March when they run all Pro qualifying and eliminations 4 wide; it should be interesting to say the least.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, CT

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As someone who attended the inaugural event and the second event last Sept.; I must disagree with you. I always sit 8 rows up, at the 330 ft. cone on the Pro pit side ( the John Force grandstand); my wife and I had absolutely no problem viewing the 4 wide TF and FC exhibitions last Sept. Also, judging by the reaction of the crowd; no one else had a problem either.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, CT

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Check....good to know, I only saw it briefly and didnt really pay attention at the time, that makes sense.

I was wondering how "safley" they could clean 2 when the other 2 are running.

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If they ran a sport compact race they could combine the first and final rounds LOL.

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Hell let yall run to 1/8th stop, run the 2nd 8th, point the other way Run, Stop , Run Stop, you could have like a Gymkata competition....lol

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can see the carnage now lane one on on button,on mat , or on mat with a stick car
lane 4 is revin it with just pre stage lit

hard to see one tree not 2 60-100' apart jim

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I'd hate to be the pour SOB that has to get out there and clean a lane while they're running T/F or F/C in the other two lanes.

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Quote* "Each final round will feature four drivers in each category, and the single driver to cross the finish line first in the final will be declared the winner of the race, the second runner-up and so on." Unquote-

I say that this will go over like a fart in church......The Pro Outcry hasn't been heard yet....

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I don't watch much of the 'pro' drag racing anymore, but I am sure the crew chiefs and tuners are brimming with enthusiasm with this announcement.

These guys will be setting up cars in eliminations for lanes that they don't have any qualifying runs and data from.

Maybe they should rename this race the 'Tiresmoke Nationals'.



Sad to see a sport that I have loved since I was in first grade be reduced to a circus show.

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Can you see 4 different ET's like in Stock or SuperStock ?
Image having to rub in 3 others, not just one guy ?? How the hell is this gonna work ??
4 Comp cars trying to save index ? Against who ?? Who you takin to the stripe ?? Now you have 3 different cars launching, so you get to try to keep your focus on your tree....

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As per the press release: Sportsman wil still run in pairs of two,alternating the use of both pairs of lanes.The problem is you have to dial for four lanes instead of two.That
should be fun.

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I do not care to watch the pro's at all but I'm going to make a point to check out this event on tv. Now if stock, superstock, s/c & s/g were running first to the finish 4 wide with break outs I think I'd have to go and race this thing.

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Artie,they are only running the pros four across.

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By racing the Pros (4) at a time,they are reducing the number of runs to cover on ESPN,so this should open up some time for coverage of Stock and Super Stock on prime time TV.

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It is not unheard of for a 330mph Digger or Funny Car to climb the guardrail and end up, whole hog, on the other side. Remember Bernsten's guardrail-climbing accident about 7 or 8 years ago thaf almost killed him?

It seems to me that the potential for a 3-car pileup at this 4-lane strip is not a matter of "how", but rather "when" it will happen...

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You're kidding right?

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You have a better chance of beating Drooze driving his Drag Pak in a heads up race with your T/SA,than Stock being shown on TV.

Of course I'm kidding.

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Can I use a 4 stage 400 shot? Like the sniper creed goes "One shot,One kill".

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You might have a bye run,who knows?

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Or how about this.
they are cleaning up/ prepping/ doing whatever to one set of lanes and racing in the other. One of the cars racing doesnt matter what class goes over the wall or throws some parts over and some poor person is standing there with a car/parts coming at him and all he has to protect himself with is a broom. I dont see how they can even pull that off without some extreme risk to the track workers. How would you like to be the guy driving the car that went over the wall not only do you have a severly damaged race car but for the rest of your life you get to goto bed with the thought of having killed or mamed someone. I had a drunk woman walk out onto the capitol beltway in front of me when I was 18. Over 20 years later and I still think about it everyday and it was not my fault.

NHRA raises prices and has insurance surcharges to cover the ever increasing costs of lawsuits. Can you imagine what the prices will be if someone gets hurt or killed doing this. I try to look at the bright side and if this comes off without a hitch it will be awesome for our sport but if someone gets killed or hurt it may set it back to the stone age as NHRA will really get hammered in the press.

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Dream On...............

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Qualifying is also going to be run 4 wide; each car will get 1 run in each of the 4 lanes. The bottom line is that instead of having data from 2 runs in each of 2 lanes, they will have data from 1 run in each of 4 lanes.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1
Bridgeport, CT

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That whole concept is retarded.

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It'll leave a lot more time for those cool interviews with the team chefs and neat game shows with Ashley. All the stuff thats real fans look forward to. Why show a bunch of stockers and superstockers dancing on the back bumper? Who want to see that sportsman crap? Just can't seem to figure that out.

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:D:D
Only if I can run my new dry top clinder lubricant injection system and latent oxidiser, that deposits pockets of a dry oxidiser/lubricant on the piston top in preperation for the intake and combustion cycle..... (injects through the open exhaust valve using an MCA jet valve at around 900mph :D

I think its legal, since its not in the intake air stream and the rules say nothing about shoving things BACK up the exhaust........

Cheers

Chris



(p.s. Im about as serious on that as you all are, note that one under "dry stupid" not just dry for sense of humor, and I have not yet begun to REALLY scare you ..... I actually tried the above "contraption" years ago...didnt end well.....)

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I can't imagine how f'ed up it's gonna be trying to stage a Pro Stocker like that.

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What's really interesting is that PRO has not been in on any discussions with NHRA concerning this---Most owners/members are against this debacle--NHRA has aparently donne this without consulting with the teams/owners/drivers---we shall see--
Comp 387

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What's next? Rick Stewart wearing a big red nose and playing circus music on the starting line? :rolleyes:

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I have heard that one before ,just dif names.

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I want some of what you're drinkin........

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Could be.

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Drag racing should be 2 lanes, quarter mile PERIOD. Not 1/8 mile not 1000 feet.

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Hasn't that been his routine all along,especially when the pro stocks are involved in a burndown?

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I think what they need to do is run the fuel cars and the alcohol classes on one set. Then run pro stock and the sportsmen on the other. The lane prep needs are different for those classes. May be less work for the crew in the long run.

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Byron Drag-way (Rockford IL.) did this (4 wide) back in the old, Gas, Coupe, and Sedan days(late 60's-early '70's)

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boy some of those no staging clowns in super classes could throw a whammy into the mix if super classes was raced 4 wide.