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voltdr 01-23-2010 11:58 PM

Srac
 
I noticed that NHRA is seeking new volunteers for the newest version of the Sportsman Racer Advisory Council. Here's the big questions.
1. Was anythings accomplished by the last SRAC?
2. What could be accomplished by by the new SRAC?

Just curious.

CBS 01-24-2010 07:54 AM

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We were more active the first year than last year....I think we accompolished a number of things....but we could have done much more....but they are trying.....you see the classes at almost all of the events.....I think I answered a bunch of questions.....I would do it again.....

Lets hear everybody's issues....for 2010....

Rock Haas

Bryan Gillespie 01-24-2010 09:03 AM

Re: Srac
 
lower the index's
s/c 8.00
s/g 9.00
s/st 10.00

B CHILLIK 01-24-2010 09:27 AM

Re: Srac
 
leave the indexs alone......not everyone has the budget to have a mid seven sec dragster to run 8.90.........if anything put a mph limit on the cars maybe that will help...

John DiBartolomeo 01-24-2010 09:45 AM

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Things were accomplished, but like everything else, we'd all like to see more done. In truth, a lot of input from the SRAC influenced rule changes in the Super Stock/Stock and Comp classes, more so than in the super categories. There really isn't a lot of rule/policy issues in the super classes, but anytime we're able to have "their" ears, we need to take advantage of it.

luckydog 01-24-2010 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 164766)
Lets hear everybody's issues....for 2010....

Rock Haas

More national events for SST with a national points structure!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know, I'm dreaming :mad:

Bob Verwold 01-24-2010 10:39 AM

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I know it's been hashed over about a million times, but an MPH limit would be nice.........;)

d1hitter 01-24-2010 11:21 AM

Re: Srac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Verwold (Post 164789)
I know it's been hashed over about a million times, but an MPH limit would be nice.........;)

Just because you have a slow piece dont **** it up for the rest of us.

SST 3728 01-24-2010 12:14 PM

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Get rid of the rule that if you run S/St you can't run any other class. What is the difference between running SG and SC or SG and SST? Stupid rule...and don't give the "its an entry level class" line.

Nitro Joe Jackson 01-24-2010 12:49 PM

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I agree with Alex, time to lift the rule, look how many IHRA racers will come over to race then.
Plus i still feel there will be many that have 8.90 & 9.90 cars that will go to 9.90-10.90 (ones that don't really like driving TV antennas towers,lol)

CBS 01-24-2010 01:35 PM

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I agree with Johnny D.....the super classes don't have many issues....and nhra is happy about that.....(make sure we wear a helmet let us race)lol

that's why this section of class racer is about making jokes and having fun ....and a few issues.....and the stock/super section is about every issue under the sun.....

Maybe it's time to lift the super street rule....for those of you that don't know how it originated...here's my recollection.....way back when.....when Scotty and Edmond began racing NHRA nationals....they were so dominant in super street that nhra felt (and many others I'm sure) that S/ST should be protected from touring pro's like the Richardsons. NHRA made the Scotty rule....

I don't have a problem with lifting the rule....seems like the S/ST guys are staying in that class and we need all the participation we can get....I think we all would agree...but no bitchin if Bill Webb or Damien or Alex or Ricky...(don't forget Mike Ruff is a S/ST guy..you might get him back) or some 16 year old kid wins 3 races...lol

So If I happen to get voted in again.....I will make it an issue....

Let em run 2 cars.....but no roadsters right....(my vette would fit right in)...lol

Rock

CBS 01-24-2010 01:47 PM

Re: Srac
 
On a couple more issues....

The speed limit thing doesn't seem too popular.....its self governing....you can only go so fast....

lowering the indexes is unlikely also....guys with slow stuff would be out....

More nationals and a points structure for S/ST is unlikely....look how long its taking for top dragster and sportsman......the people to deal with it just aren't there...along with the contingency....the participation is still light overall....maybe if they lift the 2 class rule it will improve....

one step at a time....


Rock

Dave Steltz 01-24-2010 02:54 PM

Re: Srac
 
One thing that always bugged me...SST is an entry level class..what a bunch of crap..

Either make it an REAL entry level class with no Top Sportsman 6.0 cert 600 cu in 150 mph cars, or take that ridiculous title off it and make it a real class, where you can enter another class just like everyone else, and work towards making it a class at more National events...And get rid of the 2800 lbs weight..if you're gonna allow Top Sportsman cars run, who cares what the weight limit is...or at leact get it down to 2600 like IHRA for cripes sake...

At any other venue of racing, entry level is the trophy cars, real street type cars, or real low level cars, with guys getting their feet wet...which couldnt be any further from reality, especially in D1, where SST, with the exception of a very few, is real full on race cars with a pretty good size budget....

Bryan Gillespie 01-24-2010 03:57 PM

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lowering the indexes is unlikely also....guys with slow stuff would be out.... Not true, lowering the s/st to 10.00 and (back 1/2 only) will give the bracket racers (footbrake) another place to race since (pro, heavy, footbrack) has a et. limit @ 9.00 already,
and the 10.30's and slower would have to spend some money which would be good for the industry, Your never gona make everybody happy. But we also need to keep up the times, and FYI this is 2010.

Bob Verwold 01-24-2010 04:51 PM

Re: Srac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d1hitter (Post 164794)
Just because you have a slow piece dont **** it up for the rest of us.

That's intelligent, why don't you run S/G are ya scared.................

R&S Motorsports 01-25-2010 06:51 AM

Re: Srac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Steltz (Post 164820)
One thing that always bugged me...SST is an entry level class..what a bunch of crap..

Either make it an REAL entry level class with no Top Sportsman 6.0 cert 600 cu in 150 mph cars, or take that ridiculous title off it and make it a real class, where you can enter another class just like everyone else, and work towards making it a class at more National events...And get rid of the 2800 lbs weight..if you're gonna allow Top Sportsman cars run, who cares what the weight limit is...or at leact get it down to 2600 like IHRA for cripes sake...

At any other venue of racing, entry level is the trophy cars, real street type cars, or real low level cars, with guys getting their feet wet...which couldnt be any further from reality, especially in D1, where SST, with the exception of a very few, is real full on race cars with a pretty good size budget....


I agree lower the minumium weight in S/ST I know of a few people that would go over and run to NHRA if the weight were the same as IHRA. And the no double entry thing is BULL......

voltdr 01-25-2010 11:09 AM

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I agree with lowering the indexes. Maybe to 10.50, 9.50, 8.50. Change the weight rule for SST to 2600#. DO NOT mess with any issues with "back-half" only. What a can of worms. Any class that has tried that created such a headache for interpretation of where to stop. I agree with a MPH limit but it is probably impractical.
Finally, another impractical solution is to remove ALL electronics, delay boxes, timers, etc. This would really hurt the aftermarket industry. There would no longer be a need for 600+ in motors and all that stuff. It would make the racing more driver friendly and reduce the top-end braking issues.

Jason Oldfield 01-29-2010 12:18 AM

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OR, we could just get rid of ALL the electronics! Problem solved...

:D

Jeff Beckman 01-29-2010 09:52 PM

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Jason, there is no way you wrote that short of a post. Who stole your pass word? Rock would you wake Ruth up, no ones picked on a hitter since last year about this time.

Jason Oldfield 01-30-2010 12:03 PM

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Jeff,

Keeping my post short was my "out" in case everybody jumped down my throat for writing such a thing. If people started getting belligerent, I would have just said, "I didn't write that! Do I EVER post with ONLY ONE SENTENCE?" Everybody would have bought it.

Now, my cover is blown.

Bob Verwold 02-04-2010 09:30 PM

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Now is the time to vote for who you want to represent us, I went on line and voted for Div 3 rep..........now it's your turn......

Jason Oldfield 02-08-2010 10:38 PM

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???

Supposedly you can't vote until tomorrow. Did you use the "Kurt Busch Rule" to vote early, Bob?

Jason Oldfield 02-08-2010 10:41 PM

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Nevermind - I'm brain dead tonight - I'm a week behind! lol...

Bob Verwold 02-08-2010 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Oldfield (Post 167994)
???

Supposedly you can't vote until tomorrow. Did you use the "Kurt Busch Rule" to vote early, Bob?

The "Kurt Busch rule" was good........:D

I thought we got the results tomorrow ?

Bob Verwold 02-10-2010 11:46 AM

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Congratulations to Rock ..........I think:..:D

Jeff Beckman 02-10-2010 05:05 PM

Re: Srac
 
I heard they were counting the ballet in Floridah!


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