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Do any of the stock classes require diapers?

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No
And please dont give them any ideas......

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Don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I was buying new harnesses, window net, etc. all the new stuff that has to be replace every two years. The Representative/Owner of the safety equipment company had them already made for big block and small block and at a Racing Show I was at. He told me then that the work is in progress to adopt the rule for containing oil and parts.

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No but some of the drivers should because of all the whining.

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Anything 9.99 or faster needs a diaper for 2010 if you run IHRA.....someone correct me if I read it wrong...:) WJ

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Another $$$ solution to a non existent problem.This is the dilemma we face in a free society.Someone capitalizes on a situation (oil downs) and to ensure business a push is made to expand the amount of customers.All good and well for those with the $$ and know how but a financial addition for some.How many bad oil downs have S/SS cars
made,say compared to Pro Mod and up classes?

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I just received an email from our division director stating that 2011 10.99 and quicker will require a diaper.

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we'll see about that one......

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This is for ED ,Just to set the record straight I started DRE before there were any rules for sportsman cars.We are sportsman racers that developed a low cost and light weight diaper originaly forS/C and S/G racers that wanted some extra protection I will agree there have been some peolpe in the saftey industry that have pushed the rules,but I am not one of them.The racing industry is like any other it has insider trading.DRE has developed diapers that will work on any car for a fair price.

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I didn't single out anyone.Someone,somewhere saw the opportunity to expand the market to make it mandatory to use the diapers across the board,whether they are needed or not.Sportsman oil downs are not a major problem,especially in the lower classes.If the rule reads "optional" then fine.It's when it says mandatory that it becomes
a financially driven rule.

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Glad I bought a years supply of Depends before the price goes up.

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Were they regular or super absorbant?

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Floyd now we know what you have in your weight box....

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If it were "optional" would you pay the $250. fine for oiling down the track ?
Plus the damage to your car if you wrecked ? All for a $150.- $200 diaper...

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Is the rule in effect and are they enforcing it???????????????????????????????
I believe the last guy to get hosed was Mickey Whaley.That was quite a while ago.Correct me if i'm wrong.

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That didn't take long....:D
If they keep raising the ET requirement on having a diaper and make it optional and you oil down the track see if they (NHRA) don't start back with the fine. But that's my .02

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As far as I can tell STK/SS is not a major oildown problem. They can't hold a candle to the alcohol, Top, and "Super" categories. If they want to reduce overall oildowns then outlaw throttlestops and make 2000 HP engines a disadvantage. A mild big block can run 9.90s in a dragster no problem.

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I'm not sure the Super catogories are that much of a problem.I dont think it would be a bad idea for some of the high HP cars to have them,at their discretion.

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You think maybe like making the Drag-pak Challys use the diaper?? Just kidding.....:D WJ

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Diaperman do you make a diaper that fits a 68 camaro,correctly, with a sbc and moroso stock style motor mounts?If so how much?

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I heard the opposite from a division director. He said he had more down time for stock/superstock than any other class.

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I've got a leaky old big block so I got the super absorbent.

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Yes we make a diaper just for the Camaro,Nova and Chev The diaper you are talking about has factory motor mounts cut out and has 3000 degree heat cloth sew on the side for close headers.DRE is the only diaper company that makes these diapers.Check out my web site there is a u-tube video of one on there.Also we do the oil pans with drag link through the pan.We can build a diaper for any car, I will answer any questions you have just call me 217-454-5289 P.S. alot of stock/super stock guys are getting diapers even though they are not required to.They tell me they have too much in their car to take any chances.

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See,you make it and some people will use it.I dont think NHRA should make it mandetory
where it isn't a large problem.Democracy in action.

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Dumb question, really dumb....

Do you see oil temp increase with use of a diaper ?

Or engine temp in general ?

What does it take to "fit" or spec a diaper ? Im assuming engine in car/correct chassis ?

Something about wrapping the bottom end of an engine up makes me twitch, but I do understand the reason, and for more our own peace of mind, especially after our dyno issue.

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Is there a libility issue if a racer breaks a engine and the oil is in the diapher and then the headers start the oil on fire and the cars burns to the ground? just curious .next question My oil pan is about 3 inches from the ground ,this is the Min per NHRA now how will i put a diapher on my oil pan without vio;iting the NHRA rules ?? Just curious>

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I sure dono the answer to that, what I do know is that would lead to a very real and very sad sight of me doing my "Ricky Bobby" imperenations, including the complete breakdown......

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To answer the first question our diapers are thin and light weight you will not have heat issue,we all know you only get about 3 passes all day at NHRA events.DRE diapers are sized to fit your engine so they dont hang down .Don yes you can come up with all kinds of negatives to the diaper I have heard them all,but I have heard Hundreds of racers that we have saved thier car and maybe thier life.So if you blowed the motor with no diaper you would not have to worry about the fire,just hang on for the ride when the oil hits the tires and the sudden stop when you hit the wall or the racer in the other lane.I will agree some cars are going to be more trouble to run a diaper,but we are not the creator of the rules we are here to help thanks for ?

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I am building a new SS car and have the diaper in place. I got mine from Dennis. I wouldn't dream of not running one. I think they should be required, why not? The diapers are inexpensive, easy to install, and can save your life. What's not to like? Waiting for an oil down is not fun for anyone at the track. I remember being at a divisional one time and they had 3 oil downs in 6 pairs of cars. That made for 6 cars going down the track in 3 hours. That sucks no matter how you look at it. We as racers have to take some responsibility for a situation like that. Being my own engine builder I also like the mental freedom of not thinking about the engine once I am in the car. I like knowing that I can run it WFO and if it blows, oh well, I lost the engine but not the car. I have a friend who runs a comp eliminator dragster and had the belly pan in place last year when he kicked the rods out on top end. All of the oil was contained and he stopped the car without any problems. You can't tell me that if you are on top end and the engine blows that you are going to have some confidence to step on the brakes if you have a diaper in place, vs stepping on the brakes without a diaper in place. Not trying to argue but to me this is common sense.

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I've been using a DRE diaper for over a year with no oil temperature problems.

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Dennis, are the diapers available for the new Ford CJ and Dodge Challenger cars yet? Late model Corvettes? Thanks. WJ

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The reason some race cars need a diaper is because of the rules is a band aid for the real problem of oil down cleanup which should be the responsibility of the race track in my opinion .

The tracks are too cheap to buy a machine to clean up the oil downs

http://www.waynesindustrial.com/trackscrubber.html

this is one example of the machines ready to be used at a track. I have been at a lot of race tracks and they are still using the same brooms and butane torches that they used 25 years ago . Shame on them All the up dated rules have been made for the racers yet the tracks are still cleaning up their tracks the same way they did 25 or more years ago and I swear with the same tools . Every race track that runs under the NHRA banner should be required to have one of two power machines to clean up any oil downs this would make racing a lot quicker with the very simple solution buy the machines LOL

Now after saying that I would put one on my car maybe if it would fit but I don't think it would fit as my car sits very low in a 2005 Sun fire with a 455 SD Pontiac engine with headers right where any diaper would have to be bolted on . now if the diaper maker wants to make one and then fit it come on down . Remember my pan is very low so the diaper will have to be not hanging down at all

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"I heard the opposite from a division director. He said he had more down time for stock/superstock than any other class."


I'm afraid that I would have to see something from Mr. Division Director to back that up.

It makes you wonder how we ever made it without them for this past half century.

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Don I can't imagine your car sitting any lower than my '65 tube chassis GTO and I do not have a ground clearance problem. I've had the diaper on for over a year and have raced at four different tracks and so far it has not rubbed on the ground.

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Hello my fellow racers.

I am not a Class Racer but I do drive a low 9 sec bracket car. The talk about the diaper situation is the same at all tracks and in all classes. I am by no means trying to say anything against a drivers choice to put a diaper on your car or not. I had a pretty bad crash at my home track in mid august last year as a rod decided to leave my engine via the oil pan.. If i had a diaper on the car most likekly I would have simply had a damaged engine. With all the oil flowing from the giant hole in my pan I got way way out of shape and stuffed it into the wall at 140 mph.

This is just my two cents on the fact that a diaper would have saved me a lot of money and would have hopefully prented a pretty serious crash. Just remember that you can have the best engine builder in the world, but they didn't build all the parts in that engine. If a rod cap breaks you will be going for a very unpleasant ride.

Have a safe and fun season.

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C.P. That is a eye-opening post, w/very positive reasoning for diaper installations on these racecars.....WJ

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Don you call me we can build a diaper that will work.I am glad to see good post on this lets get peoples ideas

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this is waht i will do you show up install the diapher on My Super Stocker and make sure all is well with tech at a NHRA meet and i will pay you 1 and 1/2 times the orginal cost .

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Not going to share my opinion on this,but

I can see the writing on the wall in LARGE CAPITAL LETTERS.

" Diapers will soon be required in Stock."

Hopefully when they are,some of the diaper manufacturers will pay contingency.
(If they make one for a 1970 Olds 442)

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Don,just admit you don't want to put one on your car.You have more excuses than one of those crackheads on the Cops TV show for their bad behavior.