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RJ Zenzen 05-28-2007 11:42 AM

TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Anyone have a better tire . I run Goodyears, G614, LT235-85R16, LRG on our stacker. The tread flew off on one on the way home. Any Ideas??? RJ Zenzen


Robert Pare Racing 05-28-2007 11:48 AM

Titan Load Range E


Angelo DiTocco 05-28-2007 11:56 AM

"Micheline XPS Rib" they make 16" and 16.5"
Its a commercial truck tire....
They lasted almost 10 years on my old trailer, and never had a flat or any other trouble with them. I spent the extra $$$ and had them installed on my new trailer.


Angelo DiTocco 05-28-2007 11:57 AM

you want the Load Range E


Charlie Ford 05-28-2007 02:08 PM

Michelin, no doubt. I had new Goodyears on my 50' 2-car when I got it. After 5 blow outs in 9 mos., my tire guy put all new Michelins on, FREE! That was 4 yrs. ago!!

Stick Racing 05-28-2007 06:33 PM

On my trailor:

Goodyear 5 flats.

Michelin 0.


I believe Goodyear makes Titan.

Andy Stone B/S 1102



10 Seconds Flat 05-28-2007 09:04 PM

What size Michilen tire was that Charlie?


Robert Pare Racing 05-28-2007 09:18 PM

Titan makes Titan..I had 4 tires come apart , all marathon goodyears, in a span of 3 months, and off they went. They have a killer warranty, and a 1-800 number on the tire itself, and when you call it, a person answers..Personally, I like them almost as much as I like Iron Maiden.


Charlie Ford 05-28-2007 10:33 PM

Tires are Michelin - LT225/75RT-16E. I have a 50' triple axle trailer, hauling 2 cars.

Bret Schlichtig 05-28-2007 11:07 PM

Quote:

Personally, I like them almost as much as I like Iron Maiden.

I guess that's a lot?? Its time for trailer tires for me.

Bryan Worner 05-29-2007 10:12 AM

Galaxy makes a 12 ply tire that I have been using the last two years with out a failure. I understand they make large equipment tires. I got them through my local firestone dealer. They make 16 & 16.5 radials. My sons use the Mich. XPS 16" radial with great success. I use the Galaxy because I use a 16.5" tire.


10 Seconds Flat 05-29-2007 11:44 AM

I have a 28 foot enclosed trailer and just ordered 16 inch rims for it. I hope that cures my tire worries.

Thanks for the info Charlie.


Painter 05-29-2007 08:15 PM

For anyone blessed with Goodyear Marithon trailer tires I found a factory bulliten that we all should be aware of. It states that if we are going to drive over 65 mph that the tires should be inflated 10 pounds more than the sidewall says. I got this bullitin after blowing two tires each on two back to back trips. I was able to not completely distroy 3 of the 4 tires by catching them very hot at fuel and rest stops. They had what looked like blowouts on the innner sidewall. When we took them off of the rim the inside of the tire was perfect. The number of the bullitin is 2006-06.
Painter


Mike Pearson 05-29-2007 08:55 PM

Goodyear G159 commercial truck tire will do the job flawlessly. Do not purchase the Marathon trailer tire under any circumstances. They will not hold up. I blew out 30 of the marathons on my 40 ft goose. Then converted to the 16 inch wheels and the G159 tire and have no tire problems since. LT 215/85/ 16 is the tire that I use. good luck.

Mike


Kenny Wigington 05-29-2007 09:13 PM

I am very glad you guys brought this up again. I am trying to get my stuff together to order a trailer. This is good info ! Thanks !





I hope they will replace that win light , on my side ! It looks like yours still works ?!

STK 2894

Tim Kish 07-27-2007 12:56 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Any recommendations of tires for 15" wheels. Lost my first Goodyear Marathon last weekend, which sounds like I did good since the trailer is a 2001 but there is another that looks like it is failing.

Local tire dealer quoted me a set of Carlisle 225/75/15 load range E. I've been reading a few bad reviews on Carlisle tires on epinoins.com but looking for racer feedback.

Trailer is a 24ft Pace Shadow GT.

Myron Piatek 07-27-2007 02:44 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Kish (Post 36230)
Any recommendations of tires for 15" wheels. Lost my first Goodyear Marathon last weekend, which sounds like I did good since the trailer is a 2001 but there is another that looks like it is failing.

Local tire dealer quoted me a set of Carlisle 225/75/15 load range E. I've been reading a few bad reviews on Carlisle tires on epinoins.com but looking for racer feedback.

Trailer is a 24ft Pace Shadow GT.

I didn't know Carlisle made a load range "E" in 15", but I wouldn't trust them anyway.
I was blowing a few a year of the "D" on my open trailer! Not with other brands. That opinion is shared with a pretty good majority on all forums I've seen trailer tires discussed. But I went with 6,000lb axles and 16" radials when I ordered my 26' Pace for extra insurance.

drace69 07-27-2007 04:00 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
I was having trouble with 15" tire blowouts on my 28' enclosed. After quite a few blowouts with Carlisle, Titan, Tuff-tow, Heritage and any other brand I could find I finally got this info.

Denman Tire co makes a 15" 10 ply tire that I finally bought a year or so ago and so far no problems. seems to be a btter tire and I swear I can even tell the rolling resistance of the trailer is less with the extra air pressure that goes with the load range 'E' items.

These are a ST225/75R15

I found these at a local Pomp's tire store but they have a web site that might help you find a dealer near you.

http://www.denmantire.com/

Hope this helps

Fred Suiter 07-27-2007 05:49 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
I have had trailer tire problems with many blowouts on my 28 ft trailer. I made the mistake of getting 15 in. rims. I also tried the Goodyear (8ply), Carlisle (10ply), Titan (10ply) , etc. The local tire dealer recommended the Denman 10 ply which I switched to lasy year. So far no problems.
The dealer indicated that the other tires have weak side walls while the Denman were stronger. I also recommend you get the steel valve stems.

Bud Lefevre 07-27-2007 09:20 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Kish (Post 36230)
Any recommendations of tires for 15" wheels. Lost my first Goodyear Marathon last weekend, which sounds like I did good since the trailer is a 2001 but there is another that looks like it is failing.

Local tire dealer quoted me a set of Carlisle 225/75/15 load range E. I've been reading a few bad reviews on Carlisle tires on epinoins.com but looking for racer feedback.

Trailer is a 24ft Pace Shadow GT.

After having the Goodyear problem, Ken went to the "E" Carlisle's and no more problems.

John Duzac 07-28-2007 04:19 AM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Guys, I just have to ask this: Will my Goodyear Marithon 225x75Rx16 tires hold up on my 30 foot trailer? My trailer is NOT a stacker and weighs 16,000 lbs. loaded. When the weight of a stacker trailer is considered, verses a NON stacker, does anyone think my tires will hold up? I will not hesitate to change out the tires to a more safer brand/type of tire. currently I have about 5000 to 6000 miles on the tires. During refueling and rest stops I check the tires for over heating and so far they seem normal. But, from what I have read on some of the posts, the tire issue is sure a concern.

Any feed back will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

gymracer01 07-28-2007 10:55 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Tires are always a concern. I put a set of the Goodyears on my 24' trailer 4 years ago and have not had any trouble. I watch the pressure and temperature closely. I also don't run over 65 mph. Friends that run stackers and run fast(80+) are always having trouble. I think I'm ok since I run a small trailer and not too fast. A 28'-30' trailer loaded heavy and running fast needs the best tire money can buy. I was told to buy the Goodyears by a friend and then started hearing horror stories. The next set I put on will be the best. I don't want tire troubles. I fought motorhome and trailer tire problems when I first started traveling nationaly.
Jim N.

Jeff Teuton 07-29-2007 06:40 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
For three axle stackers the Goodyears 14 ply just don't seem to take the scuffing going around the corners. I laughed at Bobby Brannon for carrying two spares. He went to 17.5 wheel/tire combo and I bought all his rims and tires. I now carry three spares unless I am racing local, then two. I had the Goodyear factory rep over and he was no help. He showed me one of mine that was going to go on my next long trip. He offered help if I converted to 17.5 or 19.5 combo. The old G159 Goodyear seems better than the the 614. We use quite a few of the 14 ply on trucks and commercial trailers, and the three axle seems to be the trouble. Most of the newer stackers are going to 17.5 and 19.5 wheel/tire combo without any trouble. The two axle trailers (single or dual) seem to do ok with those tires. There are some Chinese tires in 14 ply that are available. Sell about $125. Not as strong in the sidewall, but seem to do ok so far in our commercial trailers. They can't possibly be any worse than the Goodyears. I have a pile of American Racing 8 X 16 wheels if anyone needs them for a trailer, and some G159 and G614 Goodyears also in 14 ply (235/85). The Marathons are junk. My stacker weighs 18k on the axles when loaded with two cars, cart, parts etc. I am going to either convert to other tires or just get a new stacker with the other tires. Hope this helps.

donald j raiser 07-30-2007 07:17 AM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
the best way to do it is converting to a 235/75R17.5 18ply trailer tire. they will last forever. rickson wheel can supply the wheels. 410-771-9501.

dj raiser

Greg Barsamian 07-30-2007 10:38 AM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 2146)
For anyone blessed with Goodyear Marithon trailer tires I found a factory bulliten that we all should be aware of. It states that if we are going to drive over 65 mph that the tires should be inflated 10 pounds more than the sidewall says. I got this bullitin after blowing two tires each on two back to back trips. I was able to not completely distroy 3 of the 4 tires by catching them very hot at fuel and rest stops. They had what looked like blowouts on the innner sidewall. When we took them off of the rim the inside of the tire was perfect. The number of the bullitin is 2006-06.
Painter

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...r_Applications.

SSDiv6 07-30-2007 10:49 AM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Try these links:

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...plications.pdf

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pdf/marat...nfo_032806.pdf

Phil Veldheer Racing 07-31-2007 10:31 AM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
thanks for all the info.

Phil

Floyd Staggs 07-31-2007 03:46 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Damn, now I'm going to have to go home and check tires. We've got a new 28' Pace Shadow GT with the Daytona package. I confess I don't know what kind of tires or what size. All I know is the wheels are pretty, but I don't want to tear off one of those expensive fenders when a tire let's go.

Dave Casey 07-31-2007 04:57 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
The goodyear marathons will work for the rating on them, but YOU GOTTA PUT A LOT OF AIR IN THEM.

Ran my 24' pace across the desert in July 2001 on marathons 115 plus temps and no problems. 8400 miles 3 1/2 weeks, use at least 60 if not 70 lbs. pressure.

These tires are not for use on overloaded trailers, my trailer was around 8-9000 for that trip.

I think on any application you are always better to use at least the sidewall pressure if not 5-10 more.

Wore out 2 sets of marathons in 8 years on that trailer with no failures.

In 2002 i bought a new 26' goldrush and it has goodyear g 159 tires which have been flawless, but my trailer only weighs 8-9000 lbs loaded.

Phil Veldheer Racing 07-31-2007 06:23 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
trailer tires and expensive fenders-----An Original equipment trailer tire on my Four Winns Boat trailer blew out at 75 MPH about two months ago...The tire was a Carlisle (?) brand...was looking out the side mirror when I saw large chunks flying off....pulled over right away....only to see my fender completely torn apart and the side of my white boat covered with black rubber. It is hard to believe how much destruction can happen so quickly...Luckily I had a spare as I was in the middle of no where...New trailer tires the following Monday...Cheaper than a new fender...
Phil

Joe Martens 07-31-2007 08:25 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
John, I do not know how the 16 in. Marathons hold up, but, in my opinion, the 15 in. Marathons are junk.

7820 07-31-2007 09:26 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
I finally purchased new 16 inch wheels and tires for my 28 foot Classic trailer. I went with Marathon 16 inch tires. The tires are "D" rated and 65 pounds of air but the weight rating for each tire is 3000 pounds. I just returned from a 3,500 mile trip and did not have any problems. I limited my speed to 65-67 MPH. I believe the trailer loaded weighed around 8,500 pounds.

Jeff Teuton 08-01-2007 03:02 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
For the guys with 15" tires, there are 6 hole 16" wheels (alum) available that are pretty cheap. That with 16" E (10 Ply) rating will work fine for a two axle trailer. When you order a new trailer, the price difference between the 5000 axles 6 hole 15" tire vs. the 6000 8 hole 16 is very little and they should have at least 8 ply tires on it standard. My opinion Marathons are junk. In all the years I have found once you blow, the rest follow. Three axle heavy trailers are the real problem.

bert powell 08-01-2007 04:59 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
Jeff Teuton- you have got private mail!

Joe Martens 08-01-2007 07:07 PM

Re: TRAILER TIRES !!
 
I hear you, Jeff. I had a 15 in. Marathon blow out on the Ohio Turnpike and jack-knifed it. Went with a Denman 10 ply tire, which you can inflate to 80 psi. Next time I get new tires, I will go to the 16 in.
Jeff, do you have any other info on the 16 in. 6 lug wheels?


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