Grade points at Div...
 

Can I get more than 1 grade point at a Div and how ?

(If I enter 2 cars in 2 different classes is that 2 GP ?)

Cheers

Chris

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you would need another car in another eliminator, we all know you have a Stocker, if you find a SS or Super Gas car enter it and then you get 2 grade points. Easiest to enter SS, cause in slower classes you dont need a license (SG you do).
Remember you will have to buy another car number also.

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Number dosent suprise me, I have a liscece so np there. Another car .... well sort of :)

I was just looking to knock up one in say 2 different classes.

Does anyone know what classes they will be running ?

Or are divisionals pretty much same as nats in classes ?

I guess what Im asking is are they running ET at the Atlanta Div ?

Or any class I could put the 08 Challenger SRT8 into (ET ?).....if not Ill just go prep the Pacifica , I see its in the guides :) Well at least tech it....do you still get a GP if it fails tech ?


Cheers

Chris

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What Nat'l event are you trying to get into ? Most will let you in with a 1 count, so you shouldnt have a problem with anything other than Indy.

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Id just like to make sure of that.....as well , eventually Indy :)

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It probably depends on the division director, but you should be able to get a grade point without a car. I heard it was done here this weekend. Two people drove to the track in a street car. One person entered stock and super stock and the other person entered stock then they left.


-Toby

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By saying ET,I take it you mean an ET class? Typically the ET cass doesn`t earn a grade point,only the NHRA classes.

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Check, thats what I wondered....

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Is that right ? Did they go through tech ?

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Some people seem to do that every yr., for various reasons. Car still under construction, or waiting for parts, etc.

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I found out the hard way in 2008 that if you enter your car as owner and have someone else drive that only the driver gets the grade point.That sucked.

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"Originally Posted by Toby Lang View Post
It probably depends on the division director, but you should be able to get a grade point without a car. I heard it was done here this weekend. Two people drove to the track in a street car. One person entered stock and super stock and the other person entered stock then they left."


"Toby Is that right ? Did they go through tech ?"


Can we get more verification on this? Plus how many classes can you enter at a divisional?

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You have to go through tech to get a grade point. Up until you turn in your tech card no one knows you have entered. You don't need to make any runs. You will end up with 10 points and one grade point for each entry.

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Cool, someone suggested, or rather when we talked it came to mind "Super Street" with the SRT8......

Ill give it a "try" 2 Challengers 2 entries......twice the dent in the pocketbook, but 2 GP at once is worth is.

Super street not ET was what I was trying to think of.

We still cant figure out if your car dosent pass tech do you still get the GP ?

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I don't know but I think Superstret is a entry level and you can only run it if you enter it. That's what I heard at a track once...

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You know I think youre right now that you say that, I read it in the rules....well at least 2 of us then can grab a point at the same event if nothing else.

Thanks.....I just looked it up.....youre right, nice catch.

"

A competitor
entered in Super Street at any national or divisional event may not

compete in any other category at that event.
"

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Can you just hand in a properly filled out tech card without having a car present?

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From the rulebook....
" A competitor entered in Super Street at any national or divisional event may not compete in any other catergory at that event." :-)

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Cars have to go through tech.

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I tried to get a grade point at the 2003 Speedworld open . The DD ,(Charlie Tuna) told me I had to tech and get on the ladder.
I had to put a driveshaft loop on a real street car that was 4 seconds off the index.
I had to pass fuel too, so I opened the hood reached under the fenderwell, and magically produced a good sample of C -12 .
Of course, after all of that , I found a former Div Champ next to me in the lanes with a stone stock Chevy P/U, no loop, no nothin'.
So it all depends on the Division and the DD.
I'm sure it's all in the big secret book they carry around, but you and I don't ever get to see what's in it.

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OK, I must have misunderstood.

Tony, I saw you there. Did you tech in a car to get a grade point?


-Toby

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Please can anyone answer my other question ?

Does it have to PASS tech ?

Does anyone know ?

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I would think so.. Best thing to do is call the division director or tech director and ask them.

If you want to get two grade points, why don't you tech the DP in super stock and the SRT or a rental car in stock?


-Toby

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The SRT8 is a 2008 Challenger and it isnt in the Guides, odd but true, 2008 is absent from the Dodge guides.

But thats a good idea.....

The Pacifica is in the guides so maybe well use that one.

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Can you call the 2008 a 2009? I have never heard of NHRA asking to see a registration.

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Does the SRT8 have a roll bar? What class would the Pacifica be in? As long as it's N or lower you don't need a roll bar.


-Toby

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In 2008 I was told it must pass tech and fuel check in order to get a grade point

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That seems to vary by division. In 2008 I teched my street car in made a run but failed fuel and still got the grade point.

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I would but the only 2009 Challenger in the guides are the DP cars, and the SRT8 isnt "kosher"

Totally different setup on FI and everything, even hood, etc....the SRT8 is a cool car but it aint a DP no matter how much it wants to be :D

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In S/St you won't have to worry about fuel check. But, you will need a rollbar/cage and aftermarket axles.

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Lol....Its a Q (17.98) so.....I dont think it needs a bar...lol.

2004 only had 1 engine the 215 hp soch 6 (now rated at 250 who can I yell at for rating this up ... (no Im not serious)

So Pacifica it looks like, Ill run her outta gas and somehow figure out what fuel it will run......but with the CD changer and the car being as slow as it is I should have time on the track to listen to 3 or 4 cd's :D

And yes if I go though the trouble of teching it why not try and cut a light or two :eek:

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Yes The Pontiac is in the class guide and runs N/SA

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There is another thing about Super Street grade points. They are only good for Super Street.

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I doubt you'll need to pass fuel check to get a grade point, but if you do I don't see how they could deny you. :)

After you run it out of fuel, you'll need to run race fuel through it a few times to try to get rid of the residual unleaded gas. It still may not pass and you will have to a few more times.

Also, fuel check will probably be a two man job. One person to hold the fuel line and cup and the other to work the key.


-Toby

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I thought you could apply your super street grade pts to super gas or super comp. The Shipps ran in Super Gas at the US nats in 2009 and run heavy in Super Street at the D3 races.

I guess I just try entering multiple classes at the D3 Indy race and let you know the turnout. If they don't let me enter another class at Indy without a vehicle, then I'll enter my nephew's daily driver bone stock off the lot 2001 Dodge Dakota and have it fail fuel check to see if I get a grade point in Stock.

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A few years back in div 3 a few races were renting cars a driving them to the track so that could earning grade points in SS and STK while there new cars were being put together. Some older SS and STK racers soon started to bitch about this. So the next time they showed up at a div 3 pts race they were forced to make a pass and pass fuel check in order to earn a grading point. These two people show up payed there money and failed fuel check and never showed up with a rental car again.

Also all rear wheel drive cars must have a drive shaft loop

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You can use S/ST grade points for any other class but can not use any other class to get into S/ST only S/ST grade points to get into it. I entered the Winternational, Phoenix and Vegas a few years ago with only S/ST grade points for Stock it was myfirst year in a stocker.

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Once you pass tech you get the grade point. You do not have to make a pass, pass fuel check or the scales.
When you turn in your tech card to the trailer you have got the grade point.
The nonsense about fuel check etc. Can't hold water. How about if you have your car all tuned and ready to go you go to make your 1st run, and you destroy it in the water. Of course you never get to the scales or fuel check.
Are they going to deny you the grade point?
Pass tech, hand in your tech card and you will earn your grade point.
But here in Div 2 they actually look at your car during tech, you can't just bring a tech card up and get it signed, like some other places.

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Where is Travis???