NHRA Confirms Kurt Busch Entry
 

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NHRA confirms Busch entry. No one got pushed out. The quota was never filled.

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If nobody was kept from entering, I don't understand what all the complaining is about. What could it possibly hurt?

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I once tried to enter the Gator Nats with zero grade points, the field was never filled, it was down to one grade point and I was told....sorry no grade point no race....right there is where I have a problem with this :cool:

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RULES ED.....whom are they written for...answer me that and I'll change my attitude.....if there only written for some and not others....why have them at all :confused:

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That is exactly the whole point of this. Same thing happened to me at Pomona. They said no one has ever been allowed without a grade point, even if the quota wasn't filled. In these tough economic times, I found that strange.

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Totally agree, if this is what they want to do....change the rules so anyone with zero grade points can race, I have always wanted to see it all run anyway....just my .02

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I think it's amazing he even knows what Super Gas is! Give him credit for that and wanting to race in Super Gas, instead of Comp, Super Stock, Pro Stock or whatever.

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Well, maybe Sportsman racing will get some coverage for a change? The "It's ALL about the NITRO" stuff wears me out, as does watching John "The Diver" Force yapping away endlessly. Even the Sportsman coverage is mostly the alcohol classes with only the finals in other classes shown at all.

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Come on fellas....this is corporate America at it's finest....it isn't always what is right--but what makes them look the best! Pretty simple.

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Hey Rick. Jerry here and I hear ya, but let me throw my .02 in about grade points. The last time I raced in stock was back in 77. I've ran bracket's ever since and until this year, I didn't even know what a grade point was or how to even get one. Building a new 5.7 Drag Pak for stock opened up a whole new world for me as far as new rules that weren't implemented back in 77. I really want to get the car to BIR this Aug, but found out that I'll need at least 1 grade point to enter. After researching, I found that I can get a grade point at a local open, but thats in May and I don't think the engine will be done in time. So then I decided to throw a stock 5.7 out of a Ram into the car, pass tech, qualify above the index, just to get a grade point. Then I find out that I don't need to run the actual car for a grade point, so I then decide to trailer up either the 65 Plymouth or 64 Dodge to the show, pass tech, get the grade point, trailer up and go home without even making a pass. Then I find out I can actually drive a rental car to the open, pass tech, get the grade point, then drive home without making a pass. I understand rules are rules, but to me, if all it takes to enter most nationals is 1 grade point, why even bother. If the field isn't full, I feel anyone should be able to enter without any grade points on a first come, first serve bases. I say let Bush race and see what happens. Hopefully he'll get some good media coverage and promote this wonderful sport.

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Why not just charge double if no grade points.At least that would save dragging out to a race with a rental or whatever to get a grade point. If the field is not full then get on the double buy list. Ain't it all about money anyway. Just my .02.

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Grade points? Grade points?

I thought you could send in your money to the Division office and get a grade point.

Of course its all about money. Seen many a car enter and get a grade point for Stock that wouldnt pass tech. According to the Stock rules.

Then you have the fuel check BS. Why is it several of us have been DQ'd in qualifying for fuel that wont pass by .01 or whatever, yet a Rental car or a daily driver can get a grade point with straight unleaded??? None the less getting a grade point without ever staging the car....

Sorry for hitchhiking on your thread Kurt.

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Kurt Busch spent the money to build a SG car, went and trained for a competetion license at the R. Hill school...says he loves the sport. Gators SG class wasn't even filled anyway.....his entry should be welcomed by all others in SG cause it'll get the class some exposure for sure---a little TV and media coverage can't hurt Sportsman racing for sure.....I wish him luck....just my .02....WJ

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I like your idea to double charge the guy with no grade points. Sorta, kinda like a 'buy back' at some of the bracket events I've raced at. At one track they allowed one buy back with either a 1st round or 2nd round loss. I remember I made it to the 5th round only to loose to the same guy I beat in the first round.

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I have not problem with Kurt racing if he meets the rules. I was treated the same way. I race all over the country in the 60's and 70's quit in 1972. I had a car, worked hard to get it complete at the same time Z-Max opened only to be told I could not enter unless I had grade points. This is just not right.

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If someone got pushed out for him to get in or someone who had grade points lost a spot to him, then I agree with everyones argument. But, keep in mind guys with car counts already low if you have too many races with not enough cars when the NHRA looks @ the class you may find yourself being completely left out of some events, to be replaced by a class the draws full fields. My .02 worth

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I think a lot of people are mistaken about Kurt Busch building a car for Super Gas. The couple of articles which I read about his little venture seem to describe his Challenger as a street-legal car with stupid amounts of horsepower. I mean, who builds a Super Gas car with a turbo if you are only gonna throttle-stop it?

I have a feeling that he had the car built to be a fast street car that he can take to the track every now and then. Then when he waltzed over to the NHRA to ask about getting his turn at racing, they realized the rulebook was already out and they couldn't make up a class for him to race in, so they stuck him there just to get their 15 minutes of free publicity. I could just imagine the office blabber-mouth who started to say "Hey Kurt, maybe they have a class for you in the NMC.........(smack)".

Sorry Super Gas / sportsman racers, you aren't going to get one second of coverage beyond whoever happens to be in the other lane or the lucky soul who drives by his pit while he's being interviewed. This isn't going to make hundreds or thousands of fans flock to the races to see sportsman racing or bring any one of you a new sponsor. They are coming to see a celebrity play around with his new car and when said celebrity is done doing his gimmick the fans leave. More likely then not his fans will leave pi$$ed off and confused why he went a 9.15 and lost to a slower car that stalled right off the starting line (no knock on the 9.90 cars intended).

In my opinion they should have just booked him as an exhibition, that way no real competitors are screwed over (in terms of him getting in w/o grade points). Bring in a few fast street cars that run about the same ET and run them in between the pros.

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just my 2 cents i don't why u guys keep supporting nhra when they keep giving it to you with no lube. go support ihra they don't want you to have these money grabbing grade points. yes it might be a step back for abit but ihra will improve and contuine to favor us sportsman racers. tell nhra to go pound sand.

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Jerry I totally agree, but that's not how the rules read now....I believe in this economy they should add a zero grade point entry column. Maybe that would improve the car count and then (they wouldn't be bending the rules) right now Kurt Bush can race, but others the would if they could get in with zero point can't....that's unfair to the sportsman racers.

I do agree with the above statement....let them put on an exhibition race for Kurt Bush....win win situation, the sportsman racers don't get screwed and it makes NHRA look better.

Again just my .02

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My NASCAR crazed wife just informed me that the commentators at Talladaga announced that Kurt Bush is drag racing next week. I guess the media coverage has started.

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IMHO the rule should be changed to allow competitors with a grade of 0 to get into an event that isn't filled a week before the event. It baffles me that NHRA wouldn't want to take somebody's money.

In the end, :mad: to NHRA for allowing this to take place with the way the rules currently read. If any other non-celebrity / current sportsman racer tried to enter, NHRA would tell them to hit the road. NHRA is doing this simply to benefit themselves, and I completely agree that this won't bring any real additional medial coverage to sportsman racing or S/G. It will to Kurt Busch, it will to NHRA, it will to NASCAR, it has to Roy Hill, it will to whoever beats Kurt Busch first round, but that's it. And once this circus act is finished, S/G and the rest of NHRA sportsman racing will go back into virtual obscurity.

And I don't agree with the double-entry fee thing either. If the field isn't full, it isn't full. NHRA is already going to hit you with a late entry fine. Let people with a grade of 0 in if they can arrange to get to that race within the week of registering.

Boo NHRA....Boo, liar liar, boooooooo......

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I wouldn't worry about Kurt's engine making more than 1 or 2 wot passes anyway.

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Looks like Busch will be heading to Gainesville with momentum on his side, after his win at Atlanta this weekend. (My bad! that was NASCAR) LOL

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Kurt Busch wins at Atlanta!

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His plans for next weekend was mentioned a few times during the race today that I caught - didn't watch every lap. I would be interested to see ratings for the Gainesville event. Those who tune in to see Kurt race might be dissappointed. Or not - it might end up being the Kurt Busch show. We shall see . . .

As for rules, I expect fairness and this can't be considered fair. I can understand why they are letting him in, but for those who are trying to enter with zero grand points, they would be remiss to not mention this in their arguments. Maybe this will get the 0 grade point rule changed? I cannot understand why NHRA would walk away from any penny potentially left on the table, and this would give them a good out to change the rule and get more money.

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Well, Kurt will be coming to Gainesville w/a fresh win under his belt from Atlanta Nascar cup race earlier today. Is a T-stop mandatory in Super Gas class? Thanks. WJ

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I agree, Ed......Carl sent Brad K. on the ride of his life near end of race, did you catch it?? "Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap!" :eek:WJ

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Kurt's car WAS at the Div. 2 race in Atlanta this past weekend. Did they buy an entry, tech it in for a grade point, and leave? Super Gas doesn't qualify so does it need to make a run to get a grade point? Or they could have been getting the chassis certified.

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All that's needed to get a grade point is to pass tech!
My stocker was used to get grade points by people a couple of times and it never left the pit area!

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True, that is all that's required, pay entry and pass tech and you have the grade point.....very happy to hear as I'm sure that is what they did....hopefully !!!!!!!

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The artical said he will have a minumum of three passes Thursday. Does S/G usually get three passes. Or is it just a Kurt Busch deal.

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His name hasn't showed up on the entry list yet?
If he got the grade point surely they'd have put it on the list.

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unless they get bumped

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He's on the SuperGas entry list ........................

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Yes they did and then one of the announcers indicated that someone was going to do a John Force-like burnout.

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Nice # 210

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I recieved the evil eye [very evil] from Rick Stewart for just rolling over the starting line at Maple Grove,when I got sideways coming out of the water box!!!, ......I'm sure he'll be more tolerant of Busch, if he go's across under power. ......Mabe they'll let him do a couple of donuts too. ........I'm all for letting him run, Entry rules being waived are one thing , but if he can burn out across the line ,I want to be able to do it too!!!, ......Shoulda entered in Super Comp if he wanted to do that. .......Tom