C-11 Cost?
 

My drum of c-11 that I bought in 2008 is almost empty so I called to get another, I was qouted almost double of what I paid for the last one. What are you guy's paying for a 54 gallon drum? Is there a better choice both HP and cost wise for my 8.0 compression stocker? When is NHRA going to realize we need a pump gas option?

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Our option will be granted as soon as the major oil company's want to sponsor NHRA!
(Never).

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C11 has gone up a litlle from last year, I have been the mid west lagest seller of C11. My going price is 650.00 for a 54 gal drum. Tom

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You should look into Sunoco purple, it's about half of C-11. I paid $6.99 at a pump and took it to fuel check it passed with no problem.

Casey Miles
248H

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X 2 on the Sunoco purple, NHRA would never allow pump gas due to sponsor and money

Bob Aceves
746 E/SA

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Page 68 and 69 of the NHRA Accepted Products List has all of the racing fuels listed. Sunoco Standard (purple) is there, along with VP C-11. Of course you'd have to bring your own drum!

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Last week I dynoed c-11 vs. Sunoco Purple. C11 was 3 hp better on average. A drum of Sunoco is $325 and C11 is about $12 per gallon. About twice the price. My air fuel mixture was a little richer with the sunoco so maybe if I leaned it out a little it would have been as good as c-11.

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I just paid $574, all fees included for a 54 gallon drum.

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Greg, Not to hijack the thred but was this seen with just a fuel swap? any other variables
or do you think that just the fuel alone made it a rich mixture if you dont mind me asking...
Thanks
Bob Aceves
746 E/SA

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Well that is at least $100 less than jobber cost here. I guess I'm getting the shaft. Pacific raceways has sunoco at the pump but I'm not sure what they have for options. I guess I'll be taking an empty drum with me next time I head down there.

P.S Hey Sean I figured out how to use the quote finally. Now I'm as cool as you.......

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Bob , all I did was swap gas. I remember when I started using c-11 I richened up my carb. I really think if I had taken the time to lean my carb up just a little there would probably of been little or no difference. This is a motor that is about 10.5 to 1.

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Unless you're on the cutting edge and trying to set a record or something of that nature, why spend double the money on C-11 when a $5.00 shoe polish takes up the slack?
I know that some of you guys are going to say that you need all the power you can get when it comes to class racing. My arguement is that NHRA has settled most classes by ignoring the correct factoring of car and engine combinations and gas wouldn't help you.

Casey Miles
248H

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Is Sunoco Purple or Blue = to C11? and where can I get Sunoco in Toledo Ohio?


Thanks
Manny

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I thought c11 was unleaded, isnt it? And is the official name of the Sunoco purple "standard"?

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C-10 is unleaded and the purple Sunoco is called Standard

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Thanx

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Thx for the info....Just switching fuels and seeing a diference in mixture is good
info to have thx. Bob

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Try Corrigan Oil in Michigan. I know Bazell fuels is a distributor also.

Sunoco's web site for race gas www.racegas.com

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I got it at Downs Fuels in Riverside.

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The evaporation rate is what causes the carb to be riched or leaned. You can look up the spec's of the fuels on the net.
I spoke to the Sunoco people at the PRI show in Orlando, and they told me that the gas can be stored for up to 2 years and it will still pass as long as it's in the correct container.

Casey Miles
248H

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Good point Casey! I`ve never had a problem with Sunoco Purple passing fuel check,even after sitting in the tank all winter long. Some others fail after a couple of weeks. That`s where the cost gets really high! Lane

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Jeff,
What Downs fuels in Riverside sells Sunoco? I just got off the phone with their office in Corona and they tell me they don't have a station in Riverside and they don't sell Sunoco anywhere.
I've been buying from Downs for years and complained bitterly when they dropped Sunoco and switched to VP. I'll switch back in a heartbeat if I can.

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I got the VP C11 there. How about Merrit Oil in Bloomington for the Sunoco?

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Sunoco Purple vs C-11--------We backed to backed with our cars at the track and found absolutely no difference except price and availability. I carry a 30gal drum in my trailer which usually is plenty when I'm on a trip. Fuel check never a problem.

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In Las Vegas, NV the Rebel station at Sahara and I-15 has both Rockett 100 unleaded and 111 at pumps by the gallon. 111 cost about $6.50 when I checked a month ago. 100 is available at all Rebel stations at the pump. I don't recall the cost since I don't use it, but probably around $6 per gallon. Of course, you can buy them by the drum also, at a small savings.

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Knowing that all combos are different I can say I did pickup about .08 to.10 with C11 vs. purple. Now thanks to some of the older guys I was told that purple likes to run around 13.2/1 and C11 likes to run around 12.8/1. Having done my own testing afterwards I can backup those numbers. I'm sure others have gotten different results but thats what I've gotten. Now if someone bracket races a low compression stocker between NHRA/IHRA races I can say I'm not afraid of mixing 93 and purple to drop the SG rating of purple to what C11 would be and taking advantage of the cost difference. I also like to flush my tank with pump gas and even a couple caps of Marvel before sitting my truck which has seemed to have taken care of some of corrosive effects that C11 seems to have.