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greg fulk 04-09-2010 12:35 AM

work car oil input wanted
 
Ok guys I got myself a "new" work car (new to me that is) it's an 07 Chrysler Sebring with a 2.4L it only has 18,000 miles on it. What I want is you guys opp on what oil weight? calls for 5W20 ??? or should I go with 5W30?? I checked the gas mileage today it got just over 31 MPG witch I think is pretty good. Thanks for the input guys ;)

GTX JOHN 04-09-2010 12:47 AM

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I have been a long time fan of Mobil One....most of my new stuff calls for 5-20 so I use it...have not had any problems. Even use it in my bracket cars because it is 1/3 price of Royal Purple. :)

John Irving

greg fulk 04-09-2010 01:05 AM

Re: work car oil input wanted
 
thanks John. That's what I run too. So no big deal between 5W20 & 5W30. The only reason I ask was I've run 5W30 in everything for so many years....

Tom keedle 04-09-2010 04:25 AM

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i don't think your sebring has variable valve timing so it's not gonna be a big deal to use either BUT i'd run the weight that's recomended.
you can't go wrong with just about any synthetic...
but i won't use pennzoil in anything...syn or dino...esp in vw's...they've already got sludge problems;)

63corvette 04-09-2010 10:12 AM

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Pennzoil and Quaker State is the same oil and same company and both have sludge issues.
Its the base stock they use according to a good friend who is a oil sales rep.
I had sludge issues with it years ago and stopped using it.
My brother in law had oil pressure issues with his 05 Chevy PU after using Pennzoil in his 60,000 mile vehicle. Upon pulling the pan it had an inch or more of sludge and restricting the oil pickup. Changed the oil pickup and cleaned the pan. Oil Pressure Problem Solved.
He is now using Valvoline and changing it at 1,000 mile intervals to try and clean up the rest of the oiling system.
My 2 Cents

greg fulk 04-09-2010 11:19 AM

Re: work car oil input wanted
 
It has the variable valve timing?

Tom Goldman 04-09-2010 03:35 PM

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If it calls for 5w-20 use only that weight ......We see many of these cars that go to the Quickie lube and get the wrong oil in them. ..........Most of the sludging issues we see on newer engines are due to the use of heavier than specified oils. ...The 2.4 is a variable cam timing engine, and the 5w-20 is critical to proper cam phaser opperation . .......The instructors repeatedly drilled this to us at Chryslers training center........Tom

greg fulk 04-10-2010 12:52 AM

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Tom thank you very much! Mobil 1 5w20 it is! :)

John Dinkel 04-11-2010 07:46 AM

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Greg the 2.4 doesn't have variable cam timing. I had a Status and ran it 160,000 plus miles using 5W-30. That's what Chrysler recomends. Variable cam timing is on the newer World 4 cyl engines.

Tom Goldman 04-11-2010 08:35 AM

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The 07 2.4L was available with variable cam timing.......Tom

John Dinkel 04-11-2010 09:49 AM

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I'm bad it does, I'm goin to jail.

Tom Goldman 04-11-2010 11:40 AM

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John, you 've got a get outta jail free card to play. ...the '07 was available both ways,2.4 L engine code ED3 was dual VVT , 2.4 L engine code EDO, was not ......We only sold Jeeps [until Chrysler terminated us last June], but we had to get all the training on the complete product line , so we could service them for anyone who happened to wander in while still under warrenty. .............

John Boland 04-11-2010 11:48 AM

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You are right about Pennzoil and Quaker State being the same company, along with Slick 50 they are now owned by Shell. Your sludging issue years ago was probably when they were both parrafin based Pennsylvania oils. They were famous for that. (Caker State, LOL) However I am told that with modern oils, the base stock doesn't matter as much, it's the additive package that makes the oil.

A family friend was a Pennzoil engineer until they turned out the last light in PA. He believes in cheap oil and frequent changes. He says the extended intervals are the car manufacturer's idea and not the oil companies. He says the dirt is still in there and the oil is engineered to keep it suspended. I believe that but I have been using Mobil 1. Every 7500 miles for 11 years now. I would have to change my oil every 5-6 weeks if I use a 3000 mile interval.

Your brother in law's sludging problem raises a few questions but hopefully he gets that worked out.

QUOTE=63corvette;180982]Pennzoil and Quaker State is the same oil and same company and both have sludge issues.
Its the base stock they use according to a good friend who is a oil sales rep.
I had sludge issues with it years ago and stopped using it.
My brother in law had oil pressure issues with his 05 Chevy PU after using Pennzoil in his 60,000 mile vehicle. Upon pulling the pan it had an inch or more of sludge and restricting the oil pickup. Changed the oil pickup and cleaned the pan. Oil Pressure Problem Solved.
He is now using Valvoline and changing it at 1,000 mile intervals to try and clean up the rest of the oiling system.
My 2 Cents[/QUOTE]

rayfin 04-15-2010 12:12 AM

Re: work car oil input wanted
 
I put over 120,000 miles on a Prius last year. We run 5-30 or 10-30 Mobile 1 Extended Life Synth. We have a fleet of these.

Isaac Zane 04-17-2010 05:39 PM

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Try to go with what is called for, but if you have some sitting around, no biggie! I have Mobil 1 in EVERYTHING I own!! But then, I'm heritage Mobil here at ExxonMobil R&E in Paulsboro, NJ.


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