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Mike Delahanty 04-21-2010 12:56 PM

2010 CJ Testing Video
 
From yesterday at Milan.

http://www.youtube.com/user/FordRaci.../0/BblRC0d-Pco

Ed Fernandez 04-21-2010 03:00 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
No shot of the boards.How come?Somebody hiding something?

Floyd Gomez 04-21-2010 03:40 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
C'mon Ed. You don't think that was intentional do you?;)

FED 387 04-21-2010 03:58 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Tasca just went 8.97 @153 in testing in his 2010 CJ--Comp 387

91trunk 04-21-2010 04:05 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Those Silver cars looks so nice!

Jim Wahl 04-21-2010 04:22 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 183374)
Tasca just went 8.97 @153 in testing in his 2010 CJ--Comp 387

Isn't that close to what a good SS/AA car runs? Especially that MPH? A Stocker? Really? Jim

Chad Rhodes 04-21-2010 04:24 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 183385)
Isn't that close to what a good SS/AA car runs? Especially that MPH? A Stocker? Really? Jim

yea, no doubt.

W J 04-21-2010 05:47 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
I believe the 2010 alum block CJ cars will end up in SS/AA.....my opinion where they belong. WJ

davidhuff 04-21-2010 10:36 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
WOW,I love those cars!

Jeff Lee 04-21-2010 11:17 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Man...they way they leave the line...and I never heard more than one shift....I'd swear they all had powerglides.

LNorton 04-22-2010 12:37 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 183464)
Man...they way they leave the line...and I never heard more than one shift....I'd swear they all had powerglides.

Or as they call it... a Ford C-2...

greg fulk 04-22-2010 01:01 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
no video on the SS cars that were their? I know their was atleast 1 SS Cobra Jet car their?

james schaechter 04-22-2010 03:41 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
I know NHRA hasn't handled the factoring piece worth a darn. (understatement 2010), but they are neat cars and Ronzello has a great job!

Evan Smith 04-22-2010 06:52 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Jim W.,

Tasca's CJ is modified beyond what is legal for NHRA Stock. Just the facts, man, just the facts.

Evan

X-TECH MAN 04-22-2010 06:54 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 183479)
Jim W.,

Tasca's CJ is modified beyond what is legal for NHRA Stock. Just the facts, man, just the facts.

Evan

In reality ALL of them are that way including the DP's..

lstanford 04-22-2010 08:00 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Great to see Chris Holbrook is back racing a CJ. Ex World Champ in IHRA Pro Stock. Carl, his father was known as Captain Cobra Jet back in the 1960's and 1970's and knew how to make a 428 run. You geezers should all remember.

BlueOval Ralph 04-22-2010 08:48 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
When introduced in 1959 it was a Ford-O-Matic my dad had a new 59 with a 292 and the Ford Powerglide. WHAT A DOG!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNorton (Post 183468)
Or as they call it... a Ford C-2...


Jim Wahl 04-22-2010 09:22 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 183479)
Jim W.,

Tasca's CJ is modified beyond what is legal for NHRA Stock. Just the facts, man, just the facts.

Evan

And yet it IS a Stocker? Please explain Evan. Jim



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Bobby Zlatkin 04-22-2010 09:51 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Now I know how the guys running Ford flatheads felt in 1955 when Chevy 265's came out.

Donnie Moore Jr. 04-22-2010 09:51 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FECARMAN (Post 183496)
Great to see Chris Holbrook is back racing a CJ. Ex World Champ in IHRA Pro Stock. Carl, his father was known as Captain Cobra Jet back in the 1960's and 1970's and knew how to make a 428 run. You geezers should all remember.

I'm only hoping history will repeat itself ,my dad got Carl's 68 428cj in1979 ,maybe in 11years i can afford to buy Chirs's 2010 COBRAJET ..

Bob Moulton 04-22-2010 11:26 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Tasca's cars are not LEGAL in Stock or S/S. They are only interested in seeing how fast they can make it go. (no holes barred)

Evan Smith 04-22-2010 11:40 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Jim,

I believe they have changed the blower and blower pulley, as well as the throttle body. I don't know the weight of the car either. They just want to make that race go as fast as it will go. Don is right.

Evan

Mark Yacavone 04-22-2010 02:09 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 183508)
When introduced in 1959 it was a Ford-O-Matic my dad had a new 59 with a 292 and the Ford Powerglide. WHAT A DOG!!!!


I don't think a Ford-O -Matic would bolt up to the back of one of those modern engines. That's still the rule, isn't it?
Then again , I think an 8 second S/S'er would be awful hard on a C-4.
Anybody know what Rock Haas is using?

PB Candies 04-22-2010 03:19 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Rock is using a C-4.

Sharx 04-22-2010 04:58 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 183464)
Man...they way they leave the line...and I never heard more than one shift....I'd swear they all had powerglides.

They do. (or can) You can order one with a C-2 transmission (Reid Case two speed Powerglide clone)

I read an online magazine article about the build up of the 2010 Cobra Jets and they show the Reid glide bolted up on a 5.4 Blower motor. I'll look for the article and post the link. Neat read.

http://stangtv.com/photos/data/585/1011.jpg

http://www.stangtv.com/forum/followi...jet-6381.html#

Jeff Lee 04-22-2010 05:39 PM

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Oh...didn't know that! So I would assume a 2-speed PG with a bellhousing adapter is for SS only? I actually didn't know you could have a bellhousing adapter in Stock or Superstock.


And the racers proclaimed from high on the scoreboard:
"And the roller rocker will be the ruination of Stock!"
:D

Angelo DiTocco 04-22-2010 06:11 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Is the 352 motor available now?
If so, where can I buy one?

rawhide 04-22-2010 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 183600)
Is the 352 motor available now?
If so, where can I buy one?

I am a Ford Racing WD and I have not seen a part number for the engine yet. I have seen a part number for the intake manifold and valve covers.
thanks, Roland

Mark Yacavone 04-22-2010 07:49 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharx (Post 183588)
They do. (or can) You can order one with a C-2 transmission (Reid Case two speed Powerglide clone)

I read an online magazine article about the build up of the 2010 Cobra Jets and they show the Reid glide bolted up on a 5.4 Blower motor. I'll look for the article and post the link. Neat read.

http://stangtv.com/photos/data/585/1011.jpg

http://www.stangtv.com/forum/followi...jet-6381.html#

... So, in this age of 4,5, and even 6 speed O/D electronically controlled automatic transmissions, NHRA is now buying a manual 2 speed Powerglide as an option in a 2010 vehicle? Unbelievable...or is it ,really?

You guys realize ,of course, the 904 3 speed that came in the mail trucks behind the Chevy II 4 cylinder, that actually bolts to a Chevy V-8 ,is not legal in Stock or Super Stock.

LNorton 04-22-2010 07:50 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 183624)
You guys realize ,of course, the 904 3 speed that came in the mail trucks behind the Chevy II 4 cylinder, that actually bolts to a Chevy V-8 ,is not legal in Stock or Super Stock.

Only if you get caught! hahaha

Jim Wahl 04-22-2010 08:02 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
This is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to wonder how much money has changed hands for NHRA to look the other way! Jim

SSDiv6 04-22-2010 08:07 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 183635)
This is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to wonder how much money has changed hands for NHRA to look the other way! Jim

They are not looking the other way...they are just approve combinations that are submitted by the OEM under the premise of the OEM meeting the numbers for specialty built cars as shown in the rule book. Just a way for the OEM to use the rule book to their advantage.

Sharx 04-22-2010 09:09 PM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
I think Ford just learned how to play the game. If you get a chance to read the article, do so.

I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just a poor old bracket racer that likes to run the 90 classes once and awhile. But I would love to have two new CobraJets. One to put away and another to wear out those of you stockers that refuse to admit your bracket racing.

Jeff Lee 04-23-2010 01:14 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharx (Post 183652)
I think Ford just learned how to play the game. If you get a chance to read the article, do so.

I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just a poor old bracket racer that likes to run the 90 classes once and awhile. But I would love to have two new CobraJets. One to put away and another to wear out those of you stockers that refuse to admit your bracket racing.

Then at the next bracket race, you wouldn't mind pulling a piston for us, would you? :rolleyes:

Jim Wahl 04-23-2010 07:08 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 183668)
Then at the next bracket race, you wouldn't mind pulling a piston for us, would you? :rolleyes:

Oh! Snap! I got your back Jeff! Jim

Don Kennedy 04-23-2010 08:33 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Sharx:

FYI The only situation that Stock and Super stock have that is bracket racing is the shoe polish. A bracket car does not have engine specs, a bracket car cannot set a national record , a bracket car does not have a national index that they can't dial below that index, a bracket car never has to tear down to make sure that their engine specs is legal , a bracket car is not limited to the size of the rear tires , a bracket car never has to qualify at a race , bracket car does not have a set engine combination to run in that year of race car . I could go on,but you get my point .lol:):D;)

S.E. Buchanan 04-23-2010 11:10 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Don:

Well said.

S.E.

Sharx 04-23-2010 11:25 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Believe me when I say I'm not cracking on all the other things that you guys do to qualify and such but it just kills me when a couple of our local "stock and super stock guys" won't come to the local track cause that's just "bracket" racing. Like it's beneath them.

Then they wonder why they can't drive the big end to save their rear. Sure seems to me that most of the successful stock and super stock racers are darn good bracket racers, and they know when they hit the track all that piston changing and qualifying, weight, nine inch tire and fifteen pages of the rule book don't mean diddly. They are bracket racing. Does anyone have an idea how you get good at bracket racing??? PRACTICE.

As much as this board pisses and moans about the CobraJets and Drag Pack Challengers I can't believe so many know so little about them. Like the C-2 transmission.

Again I have tons of respect for the things you do in stock, but like I said on the track your just another bracket racer with shoe polish. And you guys getting worked up about it proves my point that most wont admit it.

I'll step out of your pool now that I pee'd in it. lol

Mike Carr 04-23-2010 11:27 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
I was going to reply to "Sharx", but Don beat me to it, and he is right on. See, Don and I *CAN* agree on something :)

My post on another topic 4/06/10:

Scales. Fuel check. Heads-up runs. Qualifying. Teardowns. Class Wins. The possibility of being a DNQ. National Records.

I have had runs disallowed due to fuel and weight issues. I've DNQ'd at Indy before (2000). I've torn down for setting National Records. All while racing Stock Eliminator. Never done any of the above while bracket racing. Indexes too. In bracket racing, no one tells you you can't dial slower than (insert ET here--except for class ET breaks). Otherwise, in Stock, I could have run my daily driven 13-14 second '95 Camaro in D/SA and been OK, as long as it met the safety requirements. And in brackets, you don't have people telling you what blocks, heads, transmissions, spec numbers, etc are, and what you have to run, and you can't be DQ'd in Super Pro because of a cylinder head issue.

About the only similarity between Stock and brackets is a two dollar bottle of shoe polish.

Mike Delahanty 04-23-2010 11:31 AM

Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video
 
Link to photos from the test session.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/annou...ts/news101.asp


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