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Daran Summerton 06-19-2010 07:36 PM

Jegs in car stocker video
 
On national TV -- 2 step on wheel then throws the blinder on the floor. HAHAHAHA

RULER 06-19-2010 09:04 PM

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Looks like the natural needs illeagle driving aids to get the job done, removeable blinder and 2 step on steering wheel. Doesn't anybody watch for this stuff?. Where's TECH or is there a rule that says that he gets to do this and nobody else!!!!

Mark Yacavone 06-19-2010 09:46 PM

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Looks like not too many people saw this... When ,where?
He allowed an in car camera to record this?

Philip Saran 06-19-2010 09:56 PM

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Where can I see this wonderful video?

Kingpen 06-19-2010 10:02 PM

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it was on the qualifying show tonight on espn2....I saw it ,hit rewind to make sure I was seeing right...thought you could not use a button on steering wheel to activate 2 step?...........Victor

novassdude 06-19-2010 10:17 PM

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I have it saved I just need to figure out how to get it on the cumputer. He talked in the interview about the 2 step being on the brake. If so what was the switch he let go of with his hand? I guess if you are a NHRA sponsor the rules do not apply to you.

sst1988 06-19-2010 10:29 PM

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Come on now do you really think that jeggie would cheat?

Ed Carpenter 06-19-2010 11:01 PM

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It didn't help him round 1. Real race cars have 3 pedals!

Chris "drooze" Wertman 06-19-2010 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RULER (Post 193317)
Looks like the natural needs illeagle driving aids to get the job done, removeable blinder and 2 step on steering wheel. Doesn't anybody watch for this stuff?. Where's TECH or is there a rule that says that he gets to do this and nobody else!!!!

Well, if hes creative in THEORY, He Could have the "Switch" on the Brake Pedal in Fact, but a DELAY Switch on The Release of the Switch on the Wheel....Right ? A second switch on the switch as it were, a lot more grey.....?

Stick Racing 06-19-2010 11:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman (Post 193337)
Well, if hes creative in THEORY, He Could have the "Switch" on the Brake Pedal in Fact, but a DELAY Switch on The Release of the Switch on the Wheel....Right ? A second switch on the switch as it were, a lot more grey.....?

Not grey, black and white. Rulebook. Electrical/Control:8. 8:2 Delay Boxes/Devices.
Second paragraph.


"...single continuous wire from a power source to a switch, and a single continuous wire from the switch to the line-loc solenoid... All switches, buttons, wiring, must be for normal auto use: ie., not intended to create a delay.... (abbreviated).

If you are building a car to run in NHRA, you may want to read the rulebook. Might save you from some future embarassment.


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Andy Stone 1102 A/S 1112 SS/C

Chris "drooze" Wertman 06-20-2010 01:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stick Racing (Post 193340)
Not grey, black and white. Rulebook. Electrical/Control:8. 8:2 Delay Boxes/Devices.
Second paragraph.


"...single continuous wire from a power source to a switch, and a single continuous wire from the switch to the line-loc solenoid... All switches, buttons, wiring, must be for normal auto use: ie., not intended to create a delay.... (abbreviated).

If you are building a car to run in NHRA, you may want to read the rulebook. Might save you from some future embarassment.


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Andy Stone 1102 A/S 1112 SS/C

Ive never had a conversation that I directly remeber with you.

In the words of Smokey (and YES I actually KNEW him) If its in the rules its in BLACK and WHITE. And his home phone is still in my addy book, he was a MIRACLE ! And PUNCHY as Hell, at the 93 Indy Event you can find Pics of me him and Shelby together, want links or are you capable of looking em up on yer own....? And Leno but he isnt a wrench. AND I will say My stepdad being a main tire eng for GY an Mom being VP till 200X? But shes back on consultancy contract ? , Im not new to Racing, not any form, I choose Mine, it was bikes......and It Failed in UTTER Fashion.

So the Simple answer is ? "single continuous wire from a power source to a switch, and a single continuous wire "

3 wires stages in 1 millisecond cutoffs would exclude that rule correct ?

A 3 way wired say .020 off each contact would circumvent in a court of law let alone rules.

Thats an amazing thing about having your Mother the "VP Records" "Corporate Sec" and about 5 other tiltles to have GY bring back, there are ALWAYS legalitys that can be enforced in a court of law, even with like the NHRA has, Disclaimers....they, like the "No Coat Check Losses Allowed" are useless in a court of law......totally .....people believe them therefore they dont try.

Mom, and Shirley M were friends, Mom was also the first person that got me to change form GY to Hoosiers......she sold all her stock options :)

I am sorry Andy and I AM, Im having other issues 100% of my own making , but Im getting tired of justifying my knowledge or the legal or rule implication of it, like the wiring, if the RULE says 1, think 3 ? Make sense, 3 partial contacts across a silmetaneous plane would not qualify in a patent court, so well......they cannot here , right ?

Randy Mullins 06-20-2010 05:22 AM

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i asked jeggie's crewman. about that switch at englishtown ,it is mounted to the right of the steering wheel in plain view ( ray charles ) could see it i was told that it was not hooked up and that jeg used it for practice for when he drives his super comp car and that the 2 step was mounted under the dash on the brake pedal . i really can't believe that this car has been to 4-5 races and this has not been verfied during tech.

John Leichtamer Jr 06-20-2010 07:17 AM

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So you practice your sewer comp driving off of a full tree.
Sounds right to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't there a rule about blinders have to be attached????


Hammer

chris3racing 06-20-2010 07:54 AM

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The video was actually shown twice. Split screen stock/Pro stock. You see his hand on the wheel and you see him remove the blinder.

In the second run of the tape the announcer asked about the card board and Jeg's comment was that the "Pro Stock car runs on a pro tree (on yellow) The card board is set such that he only sees the last yellow bulb." Would make sense? In fact I actually watched it four times last night to determine how to set it up. If you run races with both types of trees it would be a good idea even if you are foot brake racing on dial in.

Brian VP 06-20-2010 08:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Mullins (Post 193346)
i asked jeggie's crewman. about that switch at englishtown ,it is mounted to the right of the steering wheel in plain view ( ray charles ) could see it i was told that it was not hooked up and that jeg used it for practice for when he drives his super comp car and that the 2 step was mounted under the dash on the brake pedal . i really can't believe that this car has been to 4-5 races and this has not been verfied during tech.

Makes perfect sense to me. As soon as I saw this thread I figured that it wasnt hooked up, just there for comfort and consistancy.

Daran Summerton 06-20-2010 09:06 AM

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HELLO!!! No blinders or finger activated buttons allowed. He has to just imagine there is a pretend button if he needs it. Unless the rules have changed this week. Would anyone mind if I hook up a trans brake and delay box --- I just won't hook it up. PROMISE! LOL

Peter Ash 06-20-2010 12:33 PM

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Sounds more like pandering to a sponsor to me. He also got to run an illegal rear crossmember first time out!

novassdude 06-20-2010 12:42 PM

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These are the rules off the NHRA site.

The rule book is only for people that do not give NHRA tons of money(IE sponsors).

Tape of any kind prohibited on any windshield or
window. The use of any temporary or permanent shielding,
including paint, that obstructs the driver’s vision (e.g., blinders,
staging aids) and that is attached to the helmet, window or
windshield is prohibited. Permitted shielding not to exceed 4 inches
by 8 inches is permitted at this time provided that (a) it has a
permanent attachment to the vehicle, such that it requires tools for
removal, and (b) that the shielding is deemed safe by the driver in
the driver’s judgment and so long as the driver can demonstrate

DELAY BOXES/DEVICES
Two-step permitted. Two-step must be foot activated through brake
pedal, clutch pedal, or pressure switch. Hand release prohibited.
See General Regulations 8:2, 8:8.

Brian VP 06-20-2010 12:54 PM

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I didn't see the video so I don't know about whether the blinder is too big or mounted in a way that would make it illegal but if he has a button on the wheel that isn't wired to the two step or line lock then it is legal.

gmonde 06-20-2010 04:27 PM

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just saw the footage ,,man!!!! the buttons released and the the shield is tossed ,,drag racing is on espen now ,,,they might show it again gmonde

Adger Smith 06-20-2010 06:28 PM

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At approx 5:37 CDT while watching the Bristol races they had his run on Split screen..(3 other cars) in car camera, lower left of the screen.Looked to me like he released the button, ripped the blinder off..... blinder went to the right as he reached for the shifter.
I have no idea what the button is, but he came off and the car moved....instantly
Anyone see the same thing?

Jason Fuller 06-20-2010 07:01 PM

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I think Drooze let the cat out of the bag with that last post..I believe where there is a will there is a way and yes you can do a wire with a delay in signal. Don't take my word for it, ask a pro sportsman racer...not saying they are but I do believe even from the foot pedal it has been done. NHRA may never have the patience to check this out..Lots of man hours that takes away from there executives pay...lol

John Lang 06-20-2010 07:04 PM

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You guy's forgot that this is Stock Elim ! Trans brakes are not ALLOWED ! How dumb of me to think he may have forgotten this was not his SS car ! John

427_ED 06-20-2010 07:09 PM

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It looks like Chrysler is testing new DP "Launch Control" transmission in Jeg's car. :rolleyes:

Mark Yacavone 06-20-2010 07:39 PM

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Not scheduled to be re- shown any time soon.

http://areyouwatchingthis.com/tv/pro...tions/31481484


Anybody have a video?

Sean Kennedy 06-21-2010 02:01 AM

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I'm surprised there isn't more uproar about this.

Kinda funny, Jeggie cought cheating inadvertently by ESPN camera crews.

If he's so damn good why doesn't be footbrake it?

Mike Brogniez 06-21-2010 04:58 AM

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Could be a new twist of THE GOLDEN RULE...
like he who has the gold CAN BREAK the rule....

Ed Wright 06-21-2010 09:09 AM

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He could have a button there for practice for his .90 car. Don't you think NHRA tech would have checked that? If it's not connected to anything, just a dummy button, what could be wrong? Lots of negativity going on around here. Jeggie is good enough he doesn't have to cheat. Some guys,, like him, Fletcher, Biondo, etc, are just better drivers than the most of us. Not everybody we can't beat is cheating.

I would think a person would want to look at that car in the staging lanes to see if that button is connected to anything before making acusations.

Don't think the blinder deal is right.

TOM KASCH 06-21-2010 09:12 AM

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from Jeg: By e-mail
Good one…switch on bracket has no wires. Figured I would try something different; since I am used to hitting the bottom with a trans brake. Switch with wires is clearly on the brake pedal. If I were using a delay box; I

Ed Wright 06-21-2010 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM KASCH (Post 193536)
from Jeg: By e-mail
Good one…switch on bracket has no wires. Figured I would try something different; since I am used to hitting the bottom with a trans brake. Switch with wires is clearly on the brake pedal. If I were using a delay box; I

There ya go. I can't imagine thinking the tech guys would be too dumb to notice that button.

Casey Miles 06-21-2010 10:00 AM

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It would be simple to clear up all the gimmicks going on with electronics in the cars, No more 2 steps and no buttons other then 4 speeds having a line lock to hold them from rolling on the starting line. Simple, go back to racing like in the 70's. I don't want to think that Jeggy is cheating in anyway, so let's make it honest for everyone, NO Electronics!

Let's also fix the tree so that he first car leaving doesn't get the red light uptill the second car leaves. Just my 2 cents.

Casey Miles
248H

Harry 6674 06-21-2010 10:04 AM

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I suppose you guys operate your line loc off a button on the brake pedal??? Anything to whine about. You guys are just funny. If it was in one of those homely new camaros no one would say a word. Its nice to start the week with a laugh.

sscrewcheif 06-21-2010 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 193534)
He could have a button there for practice for his .90 car. Don't you think NHRA tech would have checked that? If it's not connected to anything, just a dummy button, what could be wrong? Lots of negativity going on around here. Jeggie is good enough he doesn't have to cheat. Some guys,, like him, Fletcher, Biondo, etc, are just better drivers than the most of us. Not everybody we can't beat is cheating.

I would think a person would want to look at that car in the staging lanes to see if that button is connected to anything before making acusations.

Don't think the blinder deal is right.

I agree 100%

Jeff Lee 06-21-2010 10:48 AM

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then email him about his removable blinder...

B Aceves 06-21-2010 11:05 AM

Re: Jegs in car stocker video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 193534)
He could have a button there for practice for his .90 car. Don't you think NHRA tech would have checked that? If it's not connected to anything, just a dummy button, what could be wrong? Lots of negativity going on around here. Jeggie is good enough he doesn't have to cheat. Some guys,, like him, Fletcher, Biondo, etc, are just better drivers than the most of us. Not everybody we can't beat is cheating.

I would think a person would want to look at that car in the staging lanes to see if that button is connected to anything before making acusations.

Don't think the blinder deal is right.

So what your saying is, If me and you were in the finals and we meet in the staging lanes and you take a look at my car and see a Delay box and a trans brake button on my wheel a removable blinder and I tell you OH NO its just there because I run the car on weekly brackets and its not hooked up right now its just there for practice and oh BTW I dont remove that blinder, Your ok with that ! Give me a frign break lol Also what .90 car leaves on a .50 tree

Nitroman 06-21-2010 11:41 AM

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Agreed !!!

Ed Wright 06-21-2010 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 193559)
So what your saying is, If me and you were in the finals and we meet in the staging lanes and you take a look at my car and see a Delay box and a trans brake button on my wheel a removable blinder and I tell you OH NO its just there because I run the car on weekly brackets and its not hooked up right now its just there for practice and oh BTW I dont remove that blinder, Your ok with that ! Give me a frign break lol Also what .90 car leaves on a .50 tree

If there are no wires going to the button, what does it do? Is there a delay box in that car? Did you see it?

A100 06-21-2010 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 193559)
Also what .90 car leaves on a .50 tree

Super Street..........What do I win?

On another thought, I guess my TV remote doesn't work because it isn't hard wired? Take the button out of the car. End of problem.

Ed Wright 06-21-2010 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A100 (Post 193571)
Super Street..........What do I win?

On another thought, I guess my TV remote doesn't work because it isn't hard wired? Take the button out of the car. End of problem.

So, now he has a common trans brake button that is wireless?

Now, that's funny, I don't care who ya are.

Jeff Stout 06-21-2010 01:44 PM

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Wireless button?


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