Brian Chaney wins SS @ Tulsa LODRS!
 

Good job Brian!!

Bet Russell and Vicky are smiling. :D

Alan's prices may have gone up now. :D

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How did Brian get around John Clegg in the first round? just curious:confused:

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Yeah, I ain't goin there...

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Good Job on the win Brian. Wished we could have raced 2nd round but had to head back to work Monday morning. Maybe another time in the future. Again, congrats on the win.

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So, you tatoo my tail with a .009 light, then give Brian the next round? Some guy. :D

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I knew I couldn't cut you any slack Ed. I had to be on my game.

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Don I will help you out. The word is Cheated. Ummm Guess thats how some people roll.

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Um Mr. Clegg maybe you should tell the real story and let people draw their own conclusions before you bad mouth people just saying.. oh and next time get your **** ready like everybody else and you won't have to worry about it just saying.

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Yeah, I was standing by the water box for 1st round of Super Stock and i turned around and thought what the heck is going on??? :eek: :eek: :eek: I guess the 2nd rain shower of the day was needed to COOL things off.

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Well Chris, tell your side of the story.

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Well every other racer out there has the respect to give someone time to get ready. Especially when asked to wait for a moment. But guess that means other people. Congrats.

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Good job bryan make ( mom & dad ) happy to an chris see you at indy

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Ladies and Gentlemen,
One question, was this a single run before or after other paired cars?

Any single runs cause of "no shows" cars go down the track last, after the paired cars. I've been in this situation before and I waited until a track official "made" me run without my opponent. This is basic sportsmanship. The only exception I can think of is when the opposing car breaks in the lanes and is CONFIRMED by a team member of the broken car. I can"t think of any other scenario, can anyone?

Any thing else dosent pass the smell test!

STACY MCCARTY

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Congrats Bryan.....you drove your *** off, I guess the extra time trial :rolleyes:didn't hurt.....
As for the " incident"....was there... seemed odd yet not out of the question, maybe a beef was or is with the Track Official telling the racer in question to run , however, as I was standing near Bryan's car, he didn't appear to be in any rush, in fact waited for Womack's water leak to be cleaned up ( not in his lane), other cars moved around the SS/AM car, then after being told Bryan moved forward towards the burnout box, the offended party then rolled around corner and was too late.. this was not a timed event but was not in the seconds kind of thingy, more like minutes....
Also heard rumblings of setting tire pressure seems a bit odd that your pressure in your car would not be " close" to your normal sttings, unless 30 psi is normal, I don't run ss/am but am familiar with A/SMA in comp, that seems a little high to me, quite possible this was a bit of a delay,not sure but I believe some one from a SS/DM car also painted red...attempted to lower said pressure!!!
I'm sure both wished it would have been a race, however we just won't know,
give Bryan credit quite possibly someone else wouldn' t have waited that long....I'm just saying have no dog in the fight however it made for some excitement in a miserable racing environment, maybe the heat also played a part in everyone's patience!!!!

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I can only say I heard the announcer say
Bryan was going to make a single
because his opponent was broken. There
was quite a pause, which we were wondering
about, before he ran. I was in the 2nd pair down
and was already back before it happened. Only
heard the two sides of it. They were trying to
hurry everybody up due to the weather.

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Well, it seems there's a lack of understanding here. Was the single run ahead of paired cars are not? Any other rhetoric is besides the point of sportsman like conduct.

If I was racing someone, i would pull out of line to give him a chance as most racers with dignity. (which I have done and people have done for me!) I wasnt there, did that happen?

Anyone?

Stacy
McCarty

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Also,
No one has worse weather than us in div 3. Still those racers with integrity still find a way to race fairly. Weather hurryup is an excuse not a reason!

Stacy McCarty

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Most racers, when told their opponent broke by an official,
and to make a single pass, would take them at their word. Not many would unhook everything, crawl out of their car,
walk back into the staging lanes, and ask the other driver if the official is lying before getting back in the car and making the pass. I hate that John got so upset with Bryan. Maybe the guy that radioed the tower that John broke & could not run was the problem? Someone who was not there slandering another's integrity is out of line.

Maybe the lack of understanding is with the person that was in another state at the time, and likely only heard one side of the story? Does anyone that was actually involved owe you coming on here and explaining their side? I doubt it.

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Sounds like a good match race at the next race for some cash!!!!!!! i will send some money to be put down i the blue car

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This is an email I recieved this morning from a guy working the lanes:

Ed,

I was talking to the tower and Doug (Operations Manager) when this incident occurred.

The guy in the red car (John) came running up to me after I pulled three or four sets of cars to the lanes.

Chaney was the forth or fifth set in line that was going to race John. He said that he is not ready and still had to get buckled up. I told him to get in his car and get buckled up and get up here. After the water incident in the third or forth pair I thought he would have plenty of time to get up to the lane. He still did not move at all. Once the water incident was cleaned up the tower and Doug was wondering what the delay is. I explained to them that John was still in the lanes getting buckled up. The cleanup took about 5 minutes to get cleaned up. Chaney was setting at the gate at least 4 minutes prior before the water incident. The tower then declared since the car did not get into line to run against Chaney it was determined by the tower that he was broke. Chaney did not want to go forward without John but was told to pull forward to take a single run. Chaney was told by the tower that John was broke, that’s the only way to get him to go forward. Cars then started to pull around John. Chaney took the single and other cars started to pull up then John showed up expecting to run. He was told that the run has already occurred. He was ticked off.

It took him close to 15 minutes to pull forward to the starting line from the time he told me that he was not buckled up. My TAD and TAF cars do not take that long to get buckled up. Most TD dragsters can get buckled up in 3-4 minutes.

All he had to do was to start the car and pull up to the gate, chances are he would have run against Chaney (Assuming that he would not take long). Since he stayed back in the lane and delayed the event they had no choice but to disqualify his run. When you have Craig Hutchinson and Doug Wright wondering why no cars are going down the track they will rectify the issue quickly.

I just wanted to share you what really happened. Strange thing is that when he came up running to me I did not see him running from his car to me. Not sure where he was?

Don’t want to talk about what his wife did when she came up to me and Doug, that was intense. She was pizzed.
______________________

The "water incident" mentioned was rain water falling from under another car in line ahead of them. We had sideways rain for a while, and some cars were dripping. I hate John had problems getting ready in time. I really like him. However, Bryan says he didn't try to avoid racing him. I don't think Bryan sweats racing many of us.

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Guess important lessons were learned. Fellow racers do not wait long and NHRA officials will not give people chances to get ready either. So hurry up everyone when getting ready to make a pass.

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John, I really hate that it all happened. The guy working the lanes said Bryan would not move until they told him you were broke.

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Racers,
Look,
Anytime I've been paired with a car I wait until the guy suites up give the thumbs up and hit the key so we dont get out of order. This is the only way to act, weather or no weather coming. How did the two cars get separated in the first place? You dont just run off and leave, it is only gentlemanly to wait, no excuses people.

Now if there a single cars going down the track ahead of paired cars, how could you explain that? THERE WAS TIME!!! Of course the officials are gonna think the other guy is broke because most people dont run off and leave!!

Like I said this lacks integrity and sportsmanship, but most of all It still doesnt pass the smell test. :mad:

Stacy McCarty

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Something to think about it seems that NHRA is always waiting for the sandbaggers to run, to getting to the staging lanes ,everyone knows who they are of course ,so why did nhra not wait for Clegg to get ready to run there were cars still behind him waiting to run as the sandbaggers were not there yet ??? I am confused about this whole deal >

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Congrats, Brian!! Great job driving, as usual.

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Would Olan G. or Craig H. explain to us what happened. I know for a fact that they have waited for competitors to get to the lanes in the past, and I mean wait a long time.

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track official said and i quote,
"Chaney was the forth or fifth set in line that was going to race John"

There were 44 cars in that event, that means 22 pairs. Probably would take at least half an hour to forty five minutes to run that many cars. Why was Chaney in the front of the line? That means 17 or 18 pairs of cars after Chaney ran?

Awe come on, give the guy a chance. That is horrible:mad: I dont think anyone can defend that people!!!! At the very least it should have been a rerun. Anything could have happened to delay John a bit, but It sound like Chaney was awefully eager to get to the front of the line.:rolleyes:

You dont run single runs in the front! unless the guy breaks in the box or something. Awful, Awful, Awful.

Stacy

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Mr. McCarty, Mr. Clegg and my brother flipped for lanes at which point Bryan told him he was about ready so when he was ready to let him know or pull up and the could get in line a few minutes later Mr. Clegg pulled up and got in line at which point Bryan got ready just like the pair of cars in front and behind him and the track waited another 10 minutes... there not gonna wait all day long for one guy and you wanna talk about integrity thats gotta be bashing someone over the internet when you weren't even there and have no idea what happened and have no dog in the fight... have a nice day

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Typical internet.

A couple of guys that weren't there and know nothing making all the noise. One acting like he is teaching school, and thinks anybody else cares how he "does it".

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How long does it take to put on a fire jacket, put your belts on, click up the net and strap on your helmet?

Were you getting ready or swapping engines?

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John was evidently having some issues with something. I don't think anybody knew what. He has always been ready in plenty of time before. It was a bad deal and I hate it for him.

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Great Job Brian! I was there and at 1st I too thought it was a chicken sh!t move by Brian untill I talked to several people involved including Brian and someone that was trying to help John correct is issue. I realized that Brian was out options and between orders from NHRA and Track officials he was at risk of being DQ'd also. Congrats on a well deserved win.

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Racers,
I just got off the phone with John Clegg. John, Judy and JB(the jeggster) wants everyone to know that he's upset and disappointed that the Chaney's didn't wait for him. What happened was that he had just put on a new set of slicks on his car and they were still aired up to almost 30 lbs from the installation. He realized it when he went to check his tire pressure in the lanes, he admits that's his fault. He wants everyone to know it wasn't intentional.

The Clegg's are one of the most honorable families in drag racing. I think its outrageous how they've been treated and DESERVED more respect. John was in the points chase and the Allstars points and that round put him out. He is very disappointed to loose a round by the lack of courtesy, but asked that this be my final word on the subject.

As for me, I was defending a friend of almost 25 years that never would have said a word. As JB said, I hope we all can learn from this experience.
Thanks
Stacy McCarty

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This is interesting reading. Sounds like the problem is with NHRA, the track officials and the way they want to run their race.

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Good job Brian! It was hot and a long race! Im Glad I got to stand outside the car and watch in confusion instead of being strapped in baking like you did!

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my family has raced in d4 for many years.the chaneys raced in supergas with us.i know the cleggs too the son more than sr.they are both good people.we were at the race bryan did what the officials told him to do or he would be kicked out.he would have rather waited and raced if you know bryan you know this is true.in the heat of the moment the cleggs said and did some things to bryan they should opoligize to him for but brian would just as soon take a handshake and forget about it if you know him.would have been a hell of a race. (dwight allen)

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As this story developed in this thread, I never once thought Brian did this on purpose. It was clearly a missunderstanding as both families are good people. Even though its way over the line, I can understand how "Cleggster" in the heat of the moment, would accuse Brian of cheating. What I can't understand is how someone with absolutely no part in this would degrade the Chaneys multiple times with or without knowing the real story.

I feel that John is a smart enough man to put himself in Brian's shoes and understand, no matter how crappy it turned out for him. If you were sitting in your car for 15 min. in the hot azz sun, and your opponent was still not ready to run, would you think he was playing games with you? John did ask him to wait, but gave the reason of getting his tires ready. How long do you expect that to take? He was paired in the lanes and moved forward with the groop. He also did not pull forward to the water untill the track offical told him John was broke and was no where in site. The Chaney's decision is OK in my book, and I hope the Cleggs can understand and put this behind them.

Whats not OK in my book is this

"If I was racing someone, i would pull out of line to give him a chance as most racers with dignity". Stacy

"dont just run off and leave, it is only gentlemanly to wait, no excuses people." Stacy

" Like I said this lacks integrity and sportsmanship, but most of all It still doesnt pass the smell test. " Stacy

"but It sound like Chaney was awefully eager to get to the front of the line." Stacy

This Girl gets on here and says that Brian has no dignity, is not a Gentleman, lacks integrity and sportsmanship, and will rush to the front of the line just to F-over another racer. Then She tops all those off with this.

"The Clegg's are one of the most honorable families in drag racing. I think its outrageous how they've been treated and DESERVED more respect" Stacy

How about the way you've treated the Chaney's on this forum? You are clearly way out of line and need to be "checked" M'am. There is a reason John asked Stacy not to post anymore on this. He doesnt want to be associated with her words. I have no words to describe this Woman.

P.S. I realize that Stacy is not a Little Girl, but he acts like one, so he is called one. Please don't get offended Women out there.

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The two making acusations in this thread were not there and know nothing about it. Typical internet.

Claiming to be defending John is a bogus claim. Not one negative word had been said about John when their crap started.

That is where the lack of integrity lives. Not with Chaney. Nobody that saw how long he sat there waiting would think he was in any hurry to get to the starting line.