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Amazing that the Pro Stockers said, " naw, we don't care what you say about the track, we're not racing on it right now"....is this unprecedented or just more fallout from the Phoenix fiasco this year?

Maybe we should say, "naw, we're not running at 8:00 on a cold track or after alcohol", yea right...

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Interesting.

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Very interesting! Jim

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I was watching on espn3.com and Anderson was interviewed and he said that NHRA had decided not to spray the track past the 1,000' mark... The first two pairs were out of shape and that's when they stopped round 1... They just finished the round so they must have gotten it sprayed....

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Total BS. NHRA should prep the whole track for cars that run the full 1320. Sounds like NHRA is getting track prep tips from Corda. Racer's don't nickname his track "Slippery Rock" for the heck of it.

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Sadly, it's just a matter of time before NHRA starts making Pro Stock run 1000', too. That'll be NHRA's answer to: "Oh yeah, you want to challenge us?"

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Thanks Mack; I just had audiocast and Frey just said the second pair had ran good MPH and didn't know it went down like that. That pair had WJ so it would have been interesting if they had put a microphone next to him after a wild ride. This is insane; racers know Pro Stockers in high gear are just like a NASCAR car in a turn; they can get turned in a heartbeat. I can't believe they would disregard the safety of sportsman racers, much less Pro Stock; we'll have to see if the Pro guys can shake some sense into NHRA.

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The reason they don't spray past 1000' is that it supposedly makes the fuel cars chunk tires when they shut down.

My question is do they spray past 1000' during qualifying? Why weren't they having trouble then?

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Messed up my own thread...hate when that happens

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Perhaps everyone should read the Pro driver reactions....Graham Light's reaction is similar to a certain division director's remarks when stockers were hesitant to go out on a very cold track at one of the Divisional races....."go race on it or go home; I don't care".... This attitude combined with racers with heads outside the cage checking their opponent, untightened belts and such ultimately spells disaster.

http://www.competitionplus.com/index...attle-incident

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All th NHRA management cares about is top fuel and funny car. The whole bunch is incompetent and greedy. They are ruining the organization and are going to walk away with lots of money and nothing left for the rest of us. Everyone should demand change, from the pro's to the sportsmen to the track operators. You can't continue to operate in the manner they are doing and expect results that are good for the organization. The NHRA's first and foremost obligation is to provide a safe place to race.

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I was watching on ESPN3.com. They made an announcement that the Pro Stockers would be invited back to complete R1 if they wanted to. If not they had two winners from the first two pair and would bring them back to run the final round if necessary. WJ just ripped NHRA, again, on there also.

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Warren's my hero. :D

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My hero too.

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Pretty much says it all.

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Did WJ say anything more than what was reported above? He is the man!! Call it like you see it. Man, I wish Buster was still here....

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remember on the old nhra decals it said "dedicated to safety" guess its off the currenet decals cause they really dont give sh..

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There is a small town local racing radio show. They talk about NASCAR mainly, but even those guys made a comment about how greedy NHRA was in cutting out the 1320 foot track prep for the Prostock cars.

It is really time to fire anyone above Division level at Glendora and start over. New blood with a love for Drag racing and a basic I.Q. test to get a job.

These guys in Glendora forgot they are an association!

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Jim you are right on the money. Close the offices in California and sell the property. Move everything to Indy, build a new building on the property at raceway park. Give the div. offices more responsibility and dramatically downsize the central office. Pay the president around 250k and make the board consists of racers both pro and sportsman, track operators and industry folks. Make the organization accountable to it's members. The present management and board is interested in one thing and one thing only, money. And I don't mean money to make the organization better I mean money for themselves.

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now that is right on the money ,greg!!!!

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That's right on the money, Jim...but there's a problem: The clowns on the board are the only ones that can fire themselves!!

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Their departure could be hastened by a lack of support from the racing community.The Pro Stock guys and many Sportsman racers are pissed off at them already.If they get the
rest of the Pros mad enough something might shake them out of their tree.
It might mean the end of NHRA as we know it.But the tracks will still be there and if
someone committed to running it like a racing organization,not Barnum and Bailey's Circus,there could be a new start to drag racing.Fantasy,but you never know
Who woulda thought Communism would collapse in Russia,or the USA hockey team would whip the big,bad Russians,twice.

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Anything less than Nitro will never make Glendora cave in without a huge lawsuit. You guys think you can stick together enough to file a suit?

From the looks of the Sportsman parking lot waiting to get in at Seattle in Toby Lang's pictures I'd say you got a tough row to hoe.

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They can't run a pro only show. If so, they would have done it years ago. The only power they have is the power the racers give them. It doesn't take a huge law suit or the racers banding together to bring a little sunshine to this outfit.

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They can run a pro only show. They have done it before at Gainesville when they sent the sportsmen to Orlando. Even at normal events they run all the pros then run the remaining sportsmen.

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I might be wrong,but i think Bruce meant $$$$ wie they can't run their Nat's without us.Imagine Indy with NO SPORTSMAN racers.I think THAT would get their attention.
But unfortunately,you're more likely to hit the Power Ball lottery,at 75million to 1 odds.
Correct me if I'm wrong Brucie.

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1996 Columbus, scheduled for mid-June. The race was rained out. The week after, they ran the four Pro classes, Top Alcohol and Comp. The downtime was filled with NMCA Pro Street cars (Tom Hammond and Mark Tate were two, if i recall correctly), and some other exhibition stuff. Stk, S/S and the three .90 classes ran their Columbus race off the week after Indy. So it could be done, if they had something for the downtime.

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I was at Orlando that year.

Think corporate structure. There are several classes of membership. They would be hard pressed to totally exclude participant members; unless they decide to commit what amounts to corporate suicide.

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I would think they could charge for spectator parking (including motor homes) where we normally pit.
I'm not saying it would be easy for them just a possibility. If we were all just not to enter.

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Mike,that was then,this is now.NMCA (and other racing orgs.) don't need,and I'll bet with their own sponsorships,want anything to do with NHRA.
NHRA's only bargaining chip is the contracts they have with all the tracks around the country.If they lose the tracks they are dead meat.

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Exactly. P/S on down is just space filler between nitro classes. I am not a huge fan of nitro, but the fact remains that the majority of fans are there to see nitro.

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I know, Ed. I was using them as a previous example. NHRA could use anything as a time-killer. Jets, wheelstanders, heads-up door cars, etc etc etc.

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But they still cannot regularly run National Events without Sportsman Racers. These guys are joined at the hip with Sportsman Racers, whether they like it or not.

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any more news about the track?

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The only way to improve our position is if NHRA loses it's grip on their sanctioned tracks.Those contracts kepps other venues that compete with NHRA at bay.Notice that Christianson is now affiliated with NHRA?He was a threat to them.to lessen the threat they
merged their resource with his popularity.In short,if you want to race at an NHRA affiliated track,and you are a threat to NHRA,you pay up or go somewhere else.That's their strenght
period.