Denver entries
 

are now closed, 400 sportsman cars allocated for 241 entered, 60%.
sign of the times or.....?

Super Stock allow 60, entries 25, 41.7%

Stock Eliminator allow 80, entries 41, 51.3%

Super Comp allow 100, entries 74, 74.0%

Super Gas allow 100, entries 44, 44.0%

Super Street allow 60 entries 57 95.0%

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Bob, I was just looking at that. Really a poor amount of entries. Stock class run- offs, too.

Fees will be going up again next year .

There IS one guy in Stock, I'm glad can make it!

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Maybe the fact that its the middle of nowhere ?

Of the 41 in stock
16 are from Colorado
7 are from Kansas
5 from Nebraska
And most of the rest 1 state away.

Compare that to say Norwalk....Of the 63 slots only 15 were even from Ohio.....soooooo.....

Id say its population centers and demographics....it would be interesting to see last years entry numbers....

Only 1143 Miles left to Denver :D

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Last year:

Stock = 42
Super Stock = 34

Basically the same turnout for Stock without running class last year.

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For this event, it might be a little bit of "not a family friendly track". It's very difficult to take my family and expect to leave the trailer much when we're pitted a half mile past the sand trap. Since the sportsman racer is only allowed one pit vehicle. This was always our "vacation" race. This year, we have 12 people that will be there, some being children. There's no getting around without walking for miles over the course of the weekend.

I love the track, but it's just not set up for a family affair. That being said, We have a group of people this year because it will more than likely be our last Mile-High's. Economy does play a role, which makes it even harder to attend.

I sure wish something else could be done. I love the Mile-High's.

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Mark
I know he's excited about being there too! Glad everything came together the way it did for everyone involved.

Unk

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25 entries at a NHRA National event has to be a all time low for SS!!!!!!

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of course part of the reason racers don't show up at the mile highs is the economy but here is some other reasons .(Vote in Nov or we will all lose )

Mike said" For this event, it might be a little bit of "not a family friendly track".

Fact: The sportsman don't get treated with respect.
Fact: The sportsman have to pit one mile away from the staging lanes in dirt or kind of gravel .
Fact: The sportsman have only one narrow road to get to the staging lanes that is shared by fans, support trucks for the circus stuff, support cars, golf carts, baby buggies' and racers on this only road and some day some one is going to get hurt..
Fact: I used to like that track but now will not race at a track that I have to pit my race car in dirt or dirty gravel ,one mile from the staging lanes,plus we are three quarters a mile to even see the race and three quarters a mile from a concession stand ,speakers are poor also
Opinion: In this day and age if a race track does not treat all of their customers with respect when times get tuff the track will not have those customers racing their just the facts here and of course the track will blame everyone but them selves . pave the pits , treat the racers right and make them want to come back ,not leave , very simple business practice to use for success .
Fact: ok There is 241 sportsman entries and only 72 pros (if all the pros show ) ..

Fact: Hmm????? why does the entry paying sportsman have to be pitted in the dirt while the few remaining pros are still being treated like kings , the pros will be dwindling very fast as indicated by the past while the sportsman will in most cases still support the race tracks who treats them right .

Fact: I know that the pros are who some fans come to see but the ratio of fair treatment is out of whack .
Confused on this? Why does a drag strip not try and improve there track ever year to try and get more racers ????

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Drooze,,,,Don't forget there is one stocker coming all the way from Kentucky via Seattle and Sonoma! Danny Durham

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Hey....more power to him, a road warrior deserves the glory.

Im just suprised at how many are from CO, more than were in Ohio from Ohio at Norwalk.....

Then again.....most SANE people wont drive 2600 miles for one race ..... good thing were not sane :D

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And most of us insane ones that make it to a race actually race a round or two. :eek: :D

Don

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And the Sonoma Divisional is this weekend . . . almost no D7 cars are entered.

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Salright, as Irv Johns said weve just been practicing going to the track :D

I think youll be suprised at my "last stab" on the engine and electronics side before Keith takes over some of the car duties and I concentrate on other things, like my HOUSE ! AAAAAAAA.....

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There used to be many Div. 5 cars from Minnesota that would attend Denver when we could make a division race at Douglas and then travel to Denver for the national event. After Douglas was dropped and pitting 1 mile from the starting line in the dirt, no one will travel that far to be treated like that. Dyno

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There was a SS/BM car testing
at San Antonio Raceway on Saturday
that told me they were headed to Denver
on Wendsday.

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What else that does not make any sense is a local racer that is going to denver to the mile highs with his stocker has grade points for it got in also wanted to enter a super stock no grade points,, they would not let it in ............I WOULD THINK WITH A CAR COUNT AS BAD AS THIS COMMON SENSE WOULD WORK ......OPPS FORGOT NHRA....

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How about Larry and Patsy Hill?

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Floyd,,,Don't tell me that one flew right over you! How many stockers in the country are from Kentucky and have traveled through Seattle and Sonoma this year? Only one I can think of,,and yes its pink,,and its a Mopar! I wish them well, as I know they've enjoyed their trip as much as we've enjoyed reading their posts. I was glad to meet them a couple weeks ago at Pacific Raceways,,,a very nice couple,,,cool car too!
Danny Durham

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Duh! I was having a blonde moment.

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Thats ok, Floyd,,,,,,,,Blonde moment?,,,,,,,,Nah,,,,,, You just forgot to turn off your throttle stop,,LOL Take care,,,Danny Durham

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Does anyone think that Indy is going to fill up to a full field of 128 cars? The cut off date is only 3 weeks away. In the past, the field was getting pretty full by now with guys that had 4 grade points or more.

Casey Miles
248H

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Casey as of now there is 25 in stock. I believe racers are tired of racing Wed and Thurs in front of 25 spectators. Saturday spectators continously ask when Stock and Super Stock are running? I reply we already did two days ago, they are not happy about it.

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As a spectator I quit attending National meets because the stock and superstock runs are strung over so many days, also because there is no Modified to watch but that is some other thread.

As a participant, as soon as I get my car finished I will only go to events where I can run for class and travel less than 500 miles one way.

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Also have to understand that no body from division 7 is going to slip over here because everyone is staying in Sonoma for the two divisional races. Its unfourtunate.

Brad

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Cut off date is 8/30 correct?

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That's correct; at 1:00 PM Pacific Time; agree with another thread that said you could run the BG Divisional for your first grade point and get in Indy with just that.

http://www.nhraeventreg.com/2010relsched.html

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Daran...since I've NEVER been able to run an NHRA national event, what would you suppose would happen if racers handed out S/SS association event flyers to spectators as they visit you in the "back 40" pit area? ;)

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I believe there may be some new cars in the staging lanes. 99% of people have to work Mon-Fri so Sat and Sunday is when you get bombarded by spectators. Funny thing is they normally walk right by the $100,000 2009 cars and will stand and stare at a $8000 P/SA, I think they believe HEY I CAN DO THAT!!!!

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Really ? While Im much more apt to look at a P/SA car (well not a P/SA it reminds me too much of a prostate exam and having blood drawn for a PSA) lets say a V/SA, When we are pitted with the MegaManiac, we usually have a crowd around it and I honestly feel bad for the other racers around when noone is looking at cars they have just as much sweat and blood equity in as we do. While we built the DP I can appreciate what they have done to their car, but I think many spectators, at least at the races weve been at, I dont think they can.

Hmmm....guess its all perspective

(And not to Dig the Ford Guys, but it would seem the Challenger draws a bigger crowd ?, the only thing I can think is they dont know the difference between one mustang and another....? But the Challenger, well its not like there are a whole lot of them out there, then again, it could be the wrap :)

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Or your pit crew!

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hey drooze, mind if i stop by sat and say hi? (if i can limp b ac k north to wyoming,er, the sportsman pits)
obviously i ain't racin'.....

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Most DEFINATLEY !

I was fortunate enough to meet Dic Geary and his wife today, and several others it was most excellent !

I would love for you to stop by, we all would.

Cheers

Chris.....

(Maybe hitch a ride on a northbound antelope...:D

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The number of cars at Denver has to be an embarrassment to NHRA . It's a combination of a lot of things but I think the biggest factor is how sportsman racers are treated.

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I wonder if the city of Morrison wants the race track to go else where?

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I don't know about that, but if a special interest group associated with the (for several years) defunct "Pikes Peak International Raceway" (south of Colorado Springs), wouldn't have defeated the Y2K "Amendment 2F" (that I worked on as well, to try and get a yes vote for), then Bandimere Speedway wouldn't be there today anyway! There location would've been east of Aurora, just south of I-70, and west of a town called Watkins. But funds came in from a New York investor, and a former Colorado Governor's son (I believe it was Dick Lamb's son), all contributed to defeating the amendment. Too bad too, because the newer Bandimere Speedway Park would've been located in a facility named "World Park", and it would've been nearly 3x's the size, and more racer friendly (read no "North 40"), than the land the current facility is on. Moreover, that facility would've been nearly 800ft lower in altitude, and out in the eastern plains of Colorado (minutes from the airport). The only drawback would've been it's being out in the western part of "Tornado Alley"...however, D.I.A.'s out there and it's been good for 15yrs, so I think Bandimere's possible newer home would've been fine too! Funny that within 5yrs after that amendment failed, the raceway shutdown anyway (due to poor ownership & especially, its location)...which proves that "WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND" after all!!!

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part of the problem (a major part) was that the city of (saudi)aurora didn't want the track built.

sounds like another outfit is gonna try it again though (drag strip, superspeedway for nascar stuff,etc)

wish i had a link to it but, sorry, i don't..
i guess they have enough revenue;)


oh yeah, hey drooze, seen the car and the wimmin but didn't see anything that looked like a male (unless you had a sex-change) so i didn't stop .
car do look good though..
maybe next time

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[QUOTE=Tom keedle;200435]part of the problem (a major part) was that the city of (saudi)aurora didn't want the track built.

sounds like another outfit is gonna try it again though (drag strip, superspeedway for nascar stuff,etc)

wish i had a link to it but, sorry, i don't..
i guess they have enough revenue;)

Yeah I remember that, but it's kind of interesting that the local chamber of commerce, the fire & police districts , and other key groups were in support of it, so I hope they do try again.

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Gary,

It's much more complicated than you make it sound. PPIR lost events due to NASCAR actions, and ISCA (the France family) bought PPIR and shut it down to avoid any viable efforts to bring any type of NASCAR events back to it because of their desire to build new facilities out by DIA. This stuff has been a game of political ping pong with racing sanctioning bodies and track developers, as well as politicians and community activists for about 13 years now. FWIW, PPIR is currently open and being used for racing. The original property did contain enough land on the east side of I-25 to build a national event sized drag strip facility, and there were, at least at one point in time, plans to do just that.

More info available about Denver and proposed new racing facilities is available here. http://www.jayski.com/pages/tracks/denver.htm

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Perhaps so, but people from their organization had a hand in ruining the efforts of the people I tried to help pass the amendment, and thus I'm not heartbroken over their demise. Besides, I have a lot of great memories racing at Bandimere's current site, thus I'm not so sure I'd want it to go away anyhow...getting a bicycle in order to ride up to where the action is from the "North 40", would be a good thing health-wise for me too!!! Rest assured, many of the nicest people one could be around are in the "North 40" at the Mile Highs any way.