If You Could go Back In Time, and Design One Performance Car.
 

If you could go back into the 60's or early 70's and make your own changes or design "ONE" performance car.
Either a Super/Stock Package or Musclecar.
What would it be?
Paul

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1968 to 1969 Barracuda - 440-6-Pack
1970/1971 Ford Maverick with a Boss 302 and Boss 351

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The 6-pack '68 'Cuda with fiberglass lift-off hood and fenders like the Race Hemi car.

340 6-pack in a Demon as well.

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That one was done in 1971 Jared.

Mr. Norm's Grand Spaulding Dodge built a run of just over 60.
Used the aftermarket "Tri-Power" aluminum oval air cleaners.

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Funny thing about time -- things have gone full circle - in the late 60's I raced a 57 Bel Air with Fuel Injection and now its F bodies - again with Fuel Injection .I'd love to go back to the Bel Air's once again .................

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I bet those were cool little cars. I assume they're not legal for Stock or SS? When I put that in my previous post, it was with the thought of making a class car out of it.

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Jack I don't go back that far, I thought Bel Air was a place?

For me it would be a 1969-70 Boss 429 Mustang with these changes, two 780 carbs on a high rise intake. Factory headers and a .600 solid lifter cam. An auto trans, 3500 stall converter and a 4.30 gear.

The Boss was so detuned, it turned out to be just another mid to high 13's car. With these goodies it would have easily run mid 11's with a good tire.

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*A redesigned 64 - 64 Chevelle with rear leaf springs and factory traction bars like Cal-Tracs
*Enough rear wheel tub for a 10.5 x 30 tire
*body sealer delete option
*rear seat delete option
*12 bolt rear with HD 35 spline axles and factory, over the counter spool option
*four bolt retainer for axles and 5.13 pro gear option
*383 small block with 2.02 x 1.6 angle plug heads and 60 cc chambers
*solid lifter cam with .540 net lift
*1.460 valve springs
*roller rockers
*tall aluminum valve covers
*Factory tubular headers with exhaust system delete option
*single plane, tall, large volume intake
*780 Holley
*Aluminum hood with small, forward facing scoop
*Aluminum ft fender
*Aluminum ft bumper and hardware
*light weight bucket seats
*High Performance electronic ignition
*undersized crankshaft pulley with oversize water pump and alternator pulley
*any trans option
*factor Hurst Race shifter for chosen trans option

I could go one but this would be a good platform to work with :)

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Yep...I remember the ads in the old magazines...if I am correct, you could buy one for around $3200.00 + brand new.

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'65 Mustang fastback w/427 R code med rise, Shelby R interior package, available with automatic or stick, leaf/bar suspension, fiberglass front fenders, hood, bumper, bubble hood, fresh air ducts. To compete with Mopar A990 package.

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Paul, nice thread....I would bring back the 1961-62 Corvette body style and size, put in a good adjustable rear suspension w/some Cal-tracs and wheel tubs big enough to accept a 10.5" tire...equip it w/built HD 12 bolt 4.56 rear, 6 speed, or a HD auto, and the current Corvette Zr1 motor, plus make available 3 smaller 4.8, 5.3, and 5.7 LS type V8 motors to run lower classes.... Lots of titanium and carbon fiber parts and keep it under 3,000 lbs raceweight, please.....Build 2500 total units WITH vin. #'s both years of a 2 year only build, so they COULD be sold to John Q. Public and possibly street driven....then get them into the Stock classification guide.... Giddy-up...:cool: WJ

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I'd put my Holman & Moody 427 tunnel port in my '67 Shelby GT500.
Wait I could have done that, except I lost my mind and sold the GT500 for $4,500
(in 1979)

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A thread similar to this ran a few weeks back. I'd still love to have seen factory 68-69 Novas with L-88s or ZL-1s,,, and a cowl hood!
Danny Durham

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Danny,

1970 Chevy II with an 454 LS 7, 4 speed, 4.56 and a little more rear tire clearance.

JimR

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I second the 65 fastback mustang with the 427.

Musclecar: the 71 Demon designed by the HemiFather for SS, 440 six pack topped by the Max Wedge top half, auto, Dana, max wedge scoop.

Race: 68 hemi dart with all aluminum hemi and bigger carbs.

JimR

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This is where the the "phantom car" concept comes in! I listed a bunch of them in another thread but if you're looking for specific "race package" cars : Boss 302 or 351 Maverick, ZL-1 Nova, 440 Demon with Max-wedge top-end built like the '68 dart/'cuda, RamAir V Firebird, SOHC '68 Mustang, Hemi-headed 4-4-2 Olds (they had a concept motor in development) or (IMO the ultimate) DOHC '68 Hemi Dart/'Cuda.
All these have proven race engines, so they'd probably be REAL limited production, but they would've thrown the Stock & S/S ranks into a real tailspin!

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Any of the 63 and newer Corvettes with a HD solid rear axle from the factory instead of the weak swing axle and maybe one of the GM crate engines such as the 502/502 or the 572.

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LT-1 powered Vega, 427 SOHC motored Mustang, 68 Camaro w/ 427 tripower, Hemi powered 70 Duster/Demon

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I'm Mopar,
But it would have been nice to see a 1968 Pontiac Firebird
Factory Super/Stocker for 1968.
Since the 428 was available.
A nice SD-428
12.5-1 pistons, round-port heads, .550 lift camshaft,
Aluminum DP intake, and 850 Holley.
Plus the other proper S/S goodies.
Would have made a nice SS/D car
PC

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62-65 novas with the 425 horse dual quad 409 4 speed and a heavy duty 12 bolt rearend. with alot more rear tire clearance and a way better designed front end.

and in 67 the l88 427 in a nova

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Mad Malcom Durham raced a nova with a 409 in the mid '60's, even altered the wheelbase if I remember rightly.

JimR

PS '67 Nova with a '70 LT1 350.

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It was a 1964 Chevelle with the Z-11/427 engine, Jim. Then he changed the trim into a 1965 and altered the wheelbase the following year to use the Rat motor style 427 for match racing. He raced a lot at the long gone Aquasco drag strip in Southern Md. The first time I saw him race was against Ronnie Sox's 1964 Comet and he whipped his butt in a 2 out of 3 match race that Sunday. I had heard he outran Sox the night before at Cecil County. I talked to him a lot before his passing from cancer and he was a great down to earth guy and his kids turned out to be good people also.

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Make it a hardtop instead of a post.

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YES,
A 69' Nova with a 427 L-88.
Or a 70 1/2' Nova with the 454 LS-6.

D,
Yes, in December 67' Mopar did toy with idea for a Super/Stock 340 Dart for SS/F, for the 68' Winternationals.
9.49 - up wt/hp break.
Not sure what happened to that secret project.
I know the Los Angeles County/Orange County Dodge dealers put alot of effort in the Bill Shrewsberry E/S 340 Dart, for early 68'.
PAUL

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D,
Vic said, Dodge built a proto-type 68' Dodge Dart GTS with a
340, rated at 335HP, for SS/F in 1968.
It was based upon a 68' GTS (#3264 lbs.) with a fiberglass-hood and deck-lid, to come in at #3200 lbs. even. (9.55 wt/hp break)
Not sure on all the details, but Vic said, Super/Stock springs, 4.88 gears, and supposed (28) 4-speeds and (33) automatics, were in-line for
production in California.
Vic said, he'd dig up engine details. It included an Edelbrock aluminum
DP intake and Holley 780 cfm carburetor.
PC

From Vic,
11.5-1 pistons, with a special O-ringed block deck, shot-peened and magna-fluxed rods.
Special bearings. Hardened cranskshaft. .537 lift/ 310 duration camshaft.
Special valve train components.
Machined cylinder heads with dual-valve springs and teflon seals.
Double roller timing chain. Edelbrock DP intake and 780 cfm Holley.
Hooker Competition Headers
Factory suggested HP rating of 335.
Special distributor and ignition.
Trunk-mounted battery
8 3/4 rear w/4.88 gears and S/S leaf springs.
pc

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Thanks for the correction, thought it was a nova but then I'm old. They showed up one night at Atco with the car on a flat bed truck and they had to remove the car by hand because the ramps wouldn't hold it. Half the pits helped. He was indeed a nice guy.

JimR

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I don't need to bring up the AmphiCar again, do I? LOL!

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Bret,
Only if you mention the Prop size!
Paul

A nice view.
An AMC Marlin (with a 343 HP Typhoon) towing the Amphi-Car to the track on a Bock trailer.:)

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69 L88 Corvette with 2x 780holleys
67 Chevy II with a 302

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Couple some of the old '60's and '70's car looks and styling with new car engineering, safety, technology, and especially POWER.....then you've got a winner....isn't that what's happening? WJ

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Chad,
Nice choices.
A 67' Chevy II with a 302.
Would have been a nice B/Stocker in 67'
pc

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yes it would have, especially with the 2x4's from the trunk

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Ford Maverick with a Boss 302.

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Todd,
Always thought that would have been a 'Killer Car' for 1970.
Should have been produced, maybe in a limited amount.
Of course with the functional 'Shaker-Hood" or even a
functional Ram-Air 'Grabber-style hood (ie; 1972 circa).

Would have been interesting to see that car run, at about 550 lbs. less than the
'bulky' Boss 302 (#3328 lbs.). The Boss 302's never scared anybody in H/S and I/S.
With the lighter weight, the 70' Boss 302 Maverick would have fit nicely into F/S.
'On sale at your local Ford dealer!

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x2!!!!

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Gremlin with a 401 with the AMX SS package with the X ram, 44" dana and new process 4 speed.

JimR

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I've always loved those 66 Nova SS cars,,,,,certainly miss the one I had 35 years ago,,so I guess I'd have ask for a L-78 396 version and of course a L-72 427. The front ends were pretty weak on those cars, so you'd have to beef them up and it would've been a good idea to go to a multi leaf out back also,,,,,Hmmmm,,when were the first spools introduced anyway? I remember snapping a Summers Brothers axle in mine one night, and that was with a 331, Super T-10 and a Moroso Brute Strength posi with 5:57s and Lakewood traction bars. That axle is still a family heirloom to this day. Car is long gone, sadly.
Danny Durham

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WJ,
Liked the thought of a 62' Vette, with a 302 dual-quad
First year for the 327.
Maybe convert the engine to the early style Hot-Rodder 302.
327 block small journal with the 283 crank.
11.0-1 pistons, Fuelie 2.02 heads, .485 solid lifter cam
In-line dual-quad like the 61' 283/270HP, but with 500cfm Carter AFB's.
A High-reving screamer. 302/340HP.
It would put that car in A/S, 1962 thru 1965.
PC

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70 maverick with a 460 cu in with the scj heads alum. manifold 800 holley

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You do know that Ford of Germany built 50 70 or 71 Caprias with Boss 302 for Rally in south Africa.. May be we should get them approved for Stock Elmn over here?????