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Drew Skillman SS/B 2010 CJ 9.46 at 148mph.

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Looks good until you realize that there was a CJ "stocker" (in AA/S) going this fast at E'town a few weeks ago. On 9 inch tires.

Some kind of overlap.

JC

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That CJ went 9.41/147 at Atco.Wait till the Dutch.Might be parachute city.

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Roy Hill already been 8.82 @ Rockingham this year in ss/ba.

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So what does this factor to? This was from Denver this past week. #1 qualifier!

1 5251 SS/B Todd Patterson, Augusta KS, '10 Cobra Jet 9.387 10.67 -1.283

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We've had SS/B cars running 9-teens to 8-90's @ 147-148 MPH for awhile now.
Just goes to show you how much those CJ's are holding back on their ET as the MPH is just as good as those running in the 8's.
Thanks to on-board computers we now have invisible throttle stops that can not be detected or monitored. That or they just spin the tires all through 1st gear!

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9.387 x .9276 (Denver Correction Factor) = 8.707 sea-level time

It also went 147 mph ... actual ... in Denver. That's unreal.

Add: The 9.387 isn't its best run either. Went 9.320 in Rd. 1. 8.64 corrected.

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that was my point as well, Jared. I wonder if Todd is goin to be at INDY

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The factor is not as acurate if the car is blown or turbocharged. Of course they are underrated, but the factor would be differant if all cars were pressurized.

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His father, Alan, is already on the entry list in GT/IA. If Todd enters, class elims. in SS/B will have T-bolts, 427 'Vettes, a '64 Hemi Plymouth, maybe a 390 AMX, and Todd's 2010 CJ; that's worth the price of admission.

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The driver is Don Fezell, who also went 9.41@147 at E-town National, and he should be at Indy in AA/S.

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Definetly!!!!!

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As soon as someone back halves one of these new ss Mustangs in SS/B where they can really get after it, they will run as fast as the hemi cars in SS/AH.

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They dont need to be backhalved, they could outrun a hemi now!!!!!!!!!!:D

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So what does that tell ya??

JC

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That the Hemi's are overfactored and should be moved to Stock Eliminator. :cool:

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roflmao!

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Why not? They let 1964 427 Thunderbolts into stock...
How long before Chrysler petitions for 1965 AWB cars??

JC

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I think Indy might take care of some of this problem with the Fords, though it may take 2 years to fix.

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AMEN, brother!

JimR

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They are a "stock" as the new Mustangs and Challengers.

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plan to make old cars obsolete: Allow NEW cars at rediculous factor and act as if doesnt matter. Allow the frustration for the racers to affect ALL classes as the racers DO care about the fairness of factoring and the disregard for their fellow competitors.
A plan which has been in affect for MANY years... just more obvious when the New cars arrived.

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At least IHRA has F I classes seperate . And a seperate class for the NEW Mopars and Fords. May be the only way we will see the older cars compete in the future.

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Starting to think Indy might be the place to be more than ever if your interested in S/SS. You may see the future unfold or the roof cave in depending on what side of the fence your on. Just think of all the DP and CJ cars that have not , lets say, come out of the closet yet. ----------------------------Oh yea, we loved the idea of no grade points for Indy so we decided, since the car counts have been low ---All DP & CJ can now enter. This is a JOKE --do not take this seriously !

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Todd Patterson is entered with his new CJ

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Randy Hopkins is entered with his new CJ in SS/AA, and Roy Hill and Paul Candies in SS/BA; class elims. will be great!

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anybody notice the mph of Todd Patterson's SS/B CJ? congrats goes out to him for getting to the finals in Topeka

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Steven, Roy Hill ran 158, when he qualified 1 at Cecil County. Roy was heavy on the scales also, so what do you think they can run at minimum weight if they had to.

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Hey Stephen, on his bye run in the 4th round, Patterson went 153+. In his previous rounds, he was 147 - 148.

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yep, i was just wondering if anyone noticed it....thats unreal..lol

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There's nothing like a soft horsepower factor to make a fast car.

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Guys that have been thrashing, seriously thrashing, on SS/B cars are hitting around 145 MPH. :(

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Saw a seriously thrashed SS/C go 146+ in the Bowling Green heat last saturday.

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If some of the NMCA guys had these cars, we would really find out how quick and fast they would be. One CJ guy in Stock said the only thing they had done to theirs was to change the front tires. They were #1 Qualifier!

How many other stockers are out there that haven't had every nut and bolt in the car scrutinzed for perfection?

Nothing wrong with the cars or racers really, just the factoring by NHRA.

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What does it prove to run that fast when your in such an under rated late model piece of blower crap other than the AHFS dosent work as intended and the NHRA screwed the racers of the old muscle cars ? Same deal as in stock with the AA's and A's and on down with 5.7 DP's. Put the HP where where they belong then you can talk s##t.
I am much more impressed with John Calverts 64 T-Bolt in A/S.

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wait till he gets some good air, he is goin to smash the C record

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He owns it now Stephen.

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yea I got a call saying that tonite, 9.16 with a .20 as backup?

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Yeah buddy.

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Thanks Terry. John and his guys put alot of effort into the car, and I spent alot of time trying to develop a competitive engine. We were adjusting to the heavier weight and chasing a few small things at Bowling Green. John went to Indy and I went home. We did a few things that should help but ran out of test runs, so we won't know until Wednesday. The car runs well, but no match for the blower Mustangs.Personally, I have nothing against the new cars, but they need their own place (class) to show their stuff. Eleven horsepower from now, they won't be in A/S with the 2010's, but why not just have a dedicated class for these cars with the blowers just like the AH guys. If that move was ever justified by NHRA, the CJ's should have their own play pen also. One for Stockers, and one for Super Stockers. Anyone who follows this stuff certainly knows what a work of art and genius that John Armstrong's Vette is............He made a beautiful 8.77 pass last Thursday, followed by an all-over-the-track 10-inch tire CJ set up for SS/BA that clicked off an 8.57. Ford or not, that just ain't right to class those cars with cars without a blower.