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hotrodgeno 07-27-2010 12:03 PM

68 dart combo
 
I've got a 68 DART. Thinking of building a stocker.
Whats the best motor combo. for the car.

Greg Hill 07-27-2010 01:58 PM

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340 is excellent.

hotrodgeno 07-27-2010 06:20 PM

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Can you use a 340 in a 68

Myron Piatek 07-27-2010 06:38 PM

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Yes, that was the first year the 340 came out.
A couple of slant 6's, 273, 318 and 383 were also available. But the plan is normally to find a combo that you can afford to make run the furthest under the respective index. Otherwise, something that will run under the index but not be in a class too populated with faster cars that can outrun you in the occasional heads-up race.

Dusty Lowell 07-27-2010 06:41 PM

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Yes 68 Dart GTS 340 hardtop or convertible. Maybe even better is the 383 combo for now....

hotrodgeno 07-30-2010 07:08 AM

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Thanks guys.
I'm Gene Abbott. I run supergas.
Want to build a stocker so I can run it and maybe put grandson or son in it when they're ready.
Would like to get educated before I start. Thanks

Adger Smith 07-30-2010 08:13 AM

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I got curious because I had a 68 GTS with a 383 back in the early 70's.
We used it to tow our Z-28 for a while until we got a truck. I put fenderwell headers on it and it made it a different ride!! Really picked up the power over the restrictive ex manifolds.
I noticed a few '73 340's (rated 293) in Nitro Joe's stats that were in G/SA and running pretty good. The lone 383 was about half way down the list.
I looked at the class guide and the 340 is listed @ 10.92 and the 383 @ 11.08. That makes the weight just a few pounds different. Wouldn't it be easier to move the 383 up and down in classes and it have an advantage? Fit in 3 classes and the 340 in just 2??? It might be slightly under rated at 295 vs the 299 NHRA HP for the 340. Small carb seems to be the only bad thing about it.
After looking at the blueprint specs I might consider the 340--- .5 more compression (didn't figure the actual, just used the listed) about .030 more lift on both the in and ex. similar valve sizes and a piston with a notch for valve clearance as well as a better spring design (W damper).
Same carb size...Did notice one of the good casting #'s for the 383 head..... Humm!! I have no experience with either engine as a stocker, but the specs would have me leaning toward the 340. This might be one of those toss ups.... What you mopar guys say?

Robert Simpson 07-30-2010 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodgeno (Post 201381)
Thanks guys.
I'm Gene Abbott. I run supergas.
Want to build a stocker so I can run it and maybe put grandson or son in it when they're ready.
Would like to get educated before I start. Thanks

Gene are you out of the north florida south ga area? The name sounds very familiar. If you are from Gainesville, I plan on being there sat night. If you want I might be able to answer some stocker questions.

Robert

Myron Piatek 07-30-2010 11:15 AM

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Adger,

The 340 will also have about 50-75 lbs less weight on the nose over the 383.

hotrodgeno 07-30-2010 11:54 AM

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Yes I'm from Gville.
Inlaws in town this weekend.
Don't know if I'll make it to the track or not.
Thanks. I'd love to talk to you. Gene

Robert Simpson 07-30-2010 12:25 PM

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Gene you have a PM.

Robert

Hemi Moose 08-08-2010 12:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodgeno (Post 200871)
I've got a 68 DART. Thinking of building a stocker.
Whats the best motor combo. for the car.

Depending on your budget, I'd go with stroked 440 big-block or a Hemi power plant.

Jeff Lee 08-08-2010 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 203087)
Depending on your budget, I'd go with stroked 440 big-block or a Hemi power plant.

Key word was "Stocker"

Hemi Moose 08-08-2010 11:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 203210)
Key word was "Stocker"

Yeah I was wondering when someone would say something about my comment I made, because it was intentional. And I think you'd have more fun with those engine combos that I suggested earlier, that is if you can afford it. :p

Jeff Lee 08-09-2010 03:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 203239)
Yeah I was wondering when someone would say something about my comment I made, because it was intentional. And I think you'd have more fun with those engine combos that I suggested earlier, that is if you can afford it. :p

The guy asked a serious question. 16 posts and your a comedian? Thanks for letting us know!
This thread has no other comments by Hemi Moose, therefore no "previous suggestions."

Adger Smith 08-09-2010 07:02 AM

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Jeff,
Post # 12
Could he (Hemi Moose) be saying he would go faster and have more fun with non stocker engines?

Chuck Beach 08-09-2010 07:39 AM

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Actually if you change it over to a '69 you can run a 440.

treessavoy 08-09-2010 11:22 AM

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The 340 is a tried and true combo and there is a lot of info floating around out there for the combo as well as a lot of expertise you can borrow from.

The 383 is front heavy and you would have to move a lot of weight around to get balance.

JimR

Hemi Moose 08-09-2010 07:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 203250)
Jeff,
Post # 12
Could he (Hemi Moose) be saying he would go faster and have more fun with non stocker engines?

At least someone on here gets what I was trying to say. I guess some people just take things way to seriously on here. I am also real sorry if I upset you Mr. Jeff Lee. :rolleyes:

To the owner of the Dart that originally asked the question in the first place, if you're content with building up another motor then by all means do so.

Mark Yacavone 08-09-2010 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 203393)
At least someone on here gets what I was trying to say. I guess some people just take things way to seriously on here. I am also real sorry if I upset you Mr. Jeff Lee. :rolleyes:

To the owner of the Dart that originally asked the question in the first place, if you're content with building up another motor then by all means do so.

Let's see if I get this . You come on a S/SS board as a newbie and offer up the opinion that it's more fun to go bracket racing?

How to win friends and influence people , chapter one....

Hemi Moose 08-09-2010 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 203410)
Let's see if I get this . You come on a S/SS board as a newbie and offer up the opinion that it's more fun to go bracket racing? How to win friends and influence people , chapter one....

So let me get this straight, both of you Jeff & Mark have yet to offer your opinion on what type of motor he should use, but are all worried about my opinion???
I should have known that both of you live on here 24 / 7 by the number of posts you both have, I'm real sorry if I stepped on both of your toes, jeez get a life!!!

Chris DeGidio 08-11-2010 07:21 PM

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Personally...I'd go with the 340.

Geerhead55 08-12-2010 11:36 AM

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Moose,,,,the guy was asking about building a STOCKER! The 440 and Hemi aren't stock combos on a 68' Dart,,,,,the Hemi is Super Stock only.
Don't tell the other two to "Get a Life",,,,,,they're a couple good racers with wins and records under their belts,,,so I'd say they've deffinately got a life. They also use their real names as I will,,so get your nuts out of the knot they're in and go back in the woods.
Danny Durham

dartman 08-12-2010 12:17 PM

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thier is a 73 duster in the dragster (issue29) for sell. cheap and easy way togo 1.14 under.

GTX JOHN 08-13-2010 03:20 AM

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440 is stock combo @ 350 Hp in 69 Dart...same car just different grille and small trim, Charlie Smith held record with one a year or two ago. Very Fast Combo! Bill's car in Dragster is 1.14 under old index.....Beautiful Car....I believe it is one I sold it to him. If so it is old Calif. Missile Car .

hotrodgeno 08-14-2010 07:18 AM

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Thanks Guys. The 340 is sounding good.
I won the track championship in Gainesville with a 340 duster with a 4 speed in 1977.
Who is the 340 expert in the southeast. Thanks


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